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Oh, Joy! My motherboard is Toaster Strudel!

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Grimlock

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Oh, this day started out yummers! First, I wake up today with exactly THREE MINUTES TO GET THE FUCK OUT OF THE HOUSE OR BE LATE FOR WORK. Fortunately, due to (somehow) warping space-time, I managed to shower and get to work with a minute to spare-with the important articles of clothing on. After another fun-skippity day at work, I call my local GameStop and, huzzah!, my Fatal Frame 2 XB pre-order finally freakin' shows. I bound into the store and hand the trainee a trade certificate-which the computer promptly says is invalid. Whilst this occured, an angry mother came in saying that her son's game machine was stolen and sold to this very same store! So the manager on duty gets the dubious delight of having to call corporate HQ to straighten out my certificate and deal with the mother at the same time. Rapture! Some time later, I get to leave with my bounty and return home. After a delightful nutritional interlude of leftovers, I get a call from my sibling, who tells me that while he was over at the house earlier he could not get my computer to come on. Well, that was funny, considering I had left it on since last night running some bt d/l's (just fansubbed anime, before ya start jumping to conclusions). Leaping down to the computer's alcove, I found that, indeed, the PC would not power on, despite my pleas and curses to the contrary. After my brother arrives, we proceede to troubleshoot.

-Ethernet port lights up when network cable is plugged in.
-Cooling fans would flutter for a brief instance when the power supply is first plugged in, but show no life afterwards
-Going to another outlet produces no change
-Plugging in another power supply to the mobo doesn't do anything
-CMOS reset results in no change
-Pulled out all the cards and disconnected all the drives for no change
-Power switch bypass doesn't help either

Well, at this point I call a bosom buddy and computer geek, who suggests either one of two possible results-CPU is gone, or mobo is fried. Well, my brother pulls my CPU out, since if it was the dastard the mobo would at least post. As he powers up the board, the northbridge cooler lights up and spins-and my southbridge chip starts to make pretty sparks and noise! WheeeeeFUCK. I just gone doing the delightful RMA form with MSI, and, if I'm lucky, I might get the replacement mobo in SEVERAL WEEKS. I hear you guys out there-"Hey, dumbass, why not just get another mobo?" Well, fiends, that would require REFORMATTING MY FRICKING HD-a task that I find as pleasant as a trip to a nervous dentist, especially when I have about 25-30gig of data that I've yet to back up on it. I can get the data off it beforehand-it'll just be a huge, hilarious hassle (as anyone who's ever been in this predicament can attest). Yay! Fun weekend ahead!

*bangs head against table*
 

fart

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1) you don't have to reformat.

2) if you're doing multiple RMAs, your power supply could be the culprit.
 

DarthWoo

I'm glad Grandpa porked a Chinese Muslim
Back when I had received my first Windows based PC, I did something extremely stupid, though it didn't fry the motherboard somehow. I think somewhere I had gotten the idea that if you could plug certain things into the PC while it was on, maybe you could also open it up and install things inside it while it was on. And thus I proceeded to fry a 28.8k modem in a puff of smoke.
 

Grimlock

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fart said:
1) you don't have to reformat.

I'm running XP Pro SP2. A reformat is pretty much a frickin' neccessity because of the way XP loads the chipset drivers during the installation process. Theoretically, I could just plop in a new mobo without reformatting, but I could end up with even more fun tech issues to deal with in return.


fart said:
2) if you're doing multiple RMAs, your power supply could be the culprit.

I think ya missed the part where my southbridge chip on my mobo decided to spark and smoke. That aint' gonna be a power supply issue.
 

NohWun

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Grimlock said:
I'm running XP Pro SP2. A reformat is pretty much a frickin' neccessity because of the way XP loads the chipset drivers during the installation process. Theoretically, I could just plop in a new mobo without reformatting, but I could end up with even more fun tech issues to deal with in return.

I think ya missed the part where my southbridge chip on my mobo decided to spark and smoke. That aint' gonna be a power supply issue.

If a replacement motherboard uses the same chipset as the one it's replacing, then you don't need to reinstall the OS. (And even if it uses a different chipset, there are ways to avoid this problem, such as doing a "repair install".)

A bad power supply can cause damage beyond itself. At least, it's worth checking out.
 

Grimlock

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Hmm, I haven't thought of that. Well, I did try a different power supply on the board, and it still wouldn't work. I'll be finding out tommorrow, as I bought a replacment board to hold me over until MSI sends back my 865PE Neo2 Fis2r. It's an FIC 865P Dynasty I got at Fry's for $50. I also dug around in the pile of crap I keep all of my computer stuff in and found an 80gig HD in an USB 2.0 external enclosure I had forgotten about. The drive is still good, but it has a bunch of stuff I have to get off of it first before I can format it and pop it in as a boot drive. Unfortunately, the other PC in the house only has 1.1 ports and not enough room to install another HD or my DVD burner. However, my brother is gonna drag over his PC (he has to help with the install anyway as I'm scary when it comes to anything hardware related, and he has my video card) and copy the data off of it. Then I'll reformat the 80gig and install XP Pro on it and use it as my boot drive, & I'll put my SATA drive in as a slave so I won't have to format it and I can get to my data on it. When MSI sends my board back, I'll just reinstall it and put the SATA back on as the main drive and put the old 80gig back in the enclosure. I'm going to keep the FIC board as a backup, and I've been kicking around the idea of building a media PC for my bedroom for a while...

Sounds like a plan?
 

Hitokage

Setec Astronomer
Don't underestimate the ability of a power fault to fuck things up. I forgot to change the mobo voltage when I switched from oldram SIMMs to SDRAM DIMMs on my old PC, and as a result I got to see a chip on my SB AWE64 litterally explode.
 
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