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OMG Mother 3 2006!

trippingmartian said:
I'm thrilled about the sequel but I understand misgivings about the choice of platform. GBA is technically inferior to SNES so it's a step back for the series in that sense.

It's not like Earthbound was a system pusher though, right? It doesn't look as good as something like Golden Sun...
 
Okay, i see how my comments can be implied as "trolling" to some of you.

I don't hate the game, and i'm quite eager to pick it up like the rest of ya.

My avatar reflects my taste in games, so i'm definitely up for artistic ventures.
 
Wow, this hype reminds me of Dragon Warrior 7. All this waiting just for a prehistoric-looking (& sounding) game.

You know what? I wouldn't give a shit about the graphics if they were in line with Earthbound's. It's aged far better than any RPG on the SNES. And don't diss the sound. One of the most memorable game soundtracks out there. Go download the "Bound Together" remix on one of the threads on this board.
 
BorkBork said:
You know what? I wouldn't give a shit about the graphics if they were in line with Earthbound's. It's aged far better than any RPG on the SNES. And don't diss the sound. One of the most memorable game soundtracks out there. Go download the "Bound Together" remix on one of the threads on this board.


I am really happy that the game is going to retain graphics and sound similar to the SNES game.
 
I'd only want it on the DS for the sound and bonus features from my Mother 1+2 cart. I'm glad it's for GBA, though. Import pre-order, GET. I can't wait to see Brownie Brown's sprites.
 
Amir0x said:
No! Here it will DEFINITELY be awesome nostalgia-quality 2D, and it won't be bogged down by gimmickry touch screen RUBBING or CONTROLLER SWINGING mini-games or some such shit. And that's awfully tempting for a RPG like this.

Nintendo said that the new Super Mario Bros. won't use the touch screen at all :).

My only problem with it being on the GBA is that the sound quality is fucking AWFUL. Somebody said that GBA is actually weaker than the SNES graphics wise. Is that true?
 
Wario64 said:
Mother 3: Death of the Pig King

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POKEY!
 
"GBA is technically inferior to SNES so it's a step back for the series in that sense."

This is only (partially) true for sound and true for the number of buttons available.

GBA has more sprites (both in number and maximum size - with scaling and roation that the snes didnt have), more background layers (with 2 mode 7 layers available at once instead of 1 on snes), more RAM, more VRAM, MUCH faster 32bit CPU (rather than a ass-slow 8bit CPU with hacked on 16bit support), ability to do link up and larger cartridge sizes.

Screen resolution is slightly reduced (16 pixels smaller in X and 32 pixels smaller in Y) on the GBA as well - but to say that it is "technically inferior to SNES" is wrong on so many levels...
 
I thought this day would never come!! WooooooooooooHooooooooo!!

Now, NoA better bring this one over. And Mother 1+2 as well. Rat Bastards!!
 
Manabanana said:
I'd only want it on the DS for the sound and bonus features from my Mother 1+2 cart. I'm glad it's for GBA, though. Import pre-order, GET. I can't wait to see Brownie Brown's sprites.

So its confirmed that Brownie Brown worked on this game? Awesome. I hope this does well so we can see the subsequent DS and Rev versions. The music on the DS would of been much closer to the SNES than the GBA could hope to be capable. I'm not complaining though any Earthbound is better than no Earthbound.
 
I think a mid 2006 release on gba doesn't bode well for regionalization, you know? At least if it was on the still active DS the fussing might reach the right ears. I really hope I'm wrong and we get the whole thing for once.
 
Musashi Wins! said:
I think a mid 2006 release on gba doesn't bode well for regionalization, you know? At least if it was on the still active DS the fussing might reach the right ears. I really hope I'm wrong and we get the whole thing for once.


Someone will translate it. It may not be nintendo and it may not be legal, but somebody out there will translate it.
 
I'm sure starmen.net will start a letter writing campaign to get this released in NA. It really should, I mean, if they're going to release electroplankton just online, then they should release this.

Earthbound is one of my favourite games so I'm pretty giddy at this news.
 
so that means Mother 3 / Earthbound 2 on GBA will not even be close to the original concept on N64 / 64DD (bulky drive).


Didn't the creator say Ness and the gang won't be in this game?
 
AssMan said:
Didn't the creator say Ness and the gang won't be in this game?
That's not surprising, but i still would like the chance to bash Pokey's face in. How come there aren't characters from the first Mother in Smash?

Lindsay said:
What's with the trees as part of the logo?
Earthbound?
 
CO_Andy said:
That's not surprising, but i still would like the chance to bash Pokey's face in. How come there aren't characters from the first Mother in Smash?

1 - No US release (I know, this didn't stop Marth and Roy)
2 - They, uh...Look exactly the Mother 2 characters ;P
 
finally!

hopefully they'll be a nice preorder bonus. i missed out on the plush mr saturn last time around...
 
I hope it says this at the end:
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1999 NINTENDO/HAL Laboratory,Inc./Shigesato Itoi
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2004-2005 NINTENDO/Brownie Brown/Shigesato Itoi
 
Oblivion said:
Nintendo said that the new Super Mario Bros. won't use the touch screen at all

My only problem with it being on the GBA is that the sound quality is fucking AWFUL. Somebody said that GBA is actually weaker than the SNES graphics wise. Is that true?

SMB is hardly Earthbound. The N64 version of EB64 was gonna have some guitar playing shit for the battle system. If you honestly think they wouldn't have added gimmicky touch screen garbage, hey! But I'm 100% certain that had this been on DS, I would have been bitching about the main character bat swinging RUBBING mini-game.

It's still too early though, knowing my luck they'll add some tilt sensor or some crap.

The GBA can pump out competent 2D visuals, it has already had RPGs that look better than EB. So that's not a problem. Sound is the big issue, but I think the trade off is too big a risk. I'm super happy with this route.
 
ninge said:
This is only (partially) true for sound and true for the number of buttons available.

GBA has more sprites (both in number and maximum size - with scaling and roation that the snes didnt have), more background layers (with 2 mode 7 layers available at once instead of 1 on snes), more RAM, more VRAM, MUCH faster 32bit CPU (rather than a ass-slow 8bit CPU with hacked on 16bit support), ability to do link up and larger cartridge sizes.

Screen resolution is slightly reduced (16 pixels smaller in X and 32 pixels smaller in Y) on the GBA as well - but to say that it is "technically inferior to SNES" is wrong on so many levels...

The other important element being that the GBA can handle dual 256 color palettes (one for backgrounds, one for sprites), which can be very useful when implemented properly. The SNES did always have the ability to buy it's way out of problems though...just plop another chip in with the cartridge (C1, FX, and so on). It's still theoretically possible on the GBA but the physical cart size is likely too much of an issue (if the cost already wasn't).
 
I'd heard rumors of Mother 3 in development for so many years, it's hard to believe it's finally legit. Awesome news. Then a Gunstar Heroes sequel... Now hopefully Yuzo Koshiro can get us a new Streets of Rage, and all will be right with the universe.
 
Considering that they're actually bringing Drill Dozer over, they'd better be bringing this...
Man. My copy of Earthbound would still be in the CT/FF6/SO2 category where I revisit it every so often if only it had a run button.
 
LizardKing said:
So, is the earthbound series direct sequals ala golden sun or not, like final fantasy?


Well there have only been two games in the series, and it seemed like Mother 2 was a retelling of Mother 1, sans some differeences.
 
Amir0x said:
No! Here it will DEFINITELY be awesome nostalgia-quality 2D, and it won't be bogged down by gimmickry touch screen RUBBING or CONTROLLER SWINGING mini-games or some such shit. And that's awfully tempting for a RPG like this.

GBA is confirmed perfect place. Haters hate elsewhere.

You know, I'm going to have to disagree with you.

GBA, in my opinion is the worst place for Mother 3, not even touching the music issue. The original game design was for the N64DD and used many of its funky features. Rewritable media, internal clock... all this is going to be lost with a puny little GBA cart.

Shigesato Itoi is going to have to compromise everything about Mother 3's original design to put it on the GBA, other than, perhaps, the story. This is a terrible shame.

Personally I'd like to see it on Revolution. Because Shigesato is a crazy motherfucker. Remember he made you sing into the Famicom microphone to play one of his games. Of anyone to utilize the strange and unproven Revolution controller, I think Itoi would be the only person to be able to do it. Right.

I understand where you're coming from. You want a nice 2D nostalgic RPG to take you back to the original SNES release. As a fan of Itoi and his craziness though and knowing about his original vision for Mother 3, the news way back when about it going to GBA was very disappointing.

The only thing that the GBA has going for it is the portability. And to be honest, the music is going to be crap. GBA 8bit output sucks.

The DS would be a better choice. It may not have the rewritable capabilities of the N64DD (unless it shipped with a FLASH ROM cart just for that) but at least there'd be an internal Clock and other features that the N64DD had as well.

I'm just sad that we'll never see what Mother 3 could have been (if it even makes release on the GBA).
 
I think an internal clock can work with the GBA cart. Don't the Pokemon games have that? Don't know if they're nearly as extensive though.
 
I imagine GBA is a pretty good choice. FFIV looks beautiful for it... and it's not like Mother 2 worked the SNES hardware for all it was worth like, say, Chrono Trigger or Terranigma (sp).
 
They have to add an internal clock. And it isn't exactly perfect. In Ruby and Sapphire if you don't have the fix for that berry bug won't continue on, and after you "Fix" it, it'll be entirely out of whack. It isn't self regulating, and changeable. I think the one for Gold and Silver was a proper one though.

Also: Mother 2/Earthbound and FFIV were designed for the SNES. Mother 3 wasn't.

In addition, I'm not hating on Mother 3. I'm going to get it, even if it's on the GBA. It's just disappointing we won't see his original vision, is all.
 
Finally, it is coming. DAMN.

DRAGONA btw, they scrapped the entire 64DD game. Or the n64 version, whichever platform it was going to be released on.
 
Akai said:
I think Itoi's say trumps everyone's here, thus I say the GBA is fine...

Reluctantly, i agree. after EarthBound, i wish I could play Mother 3 on the big screen (without a silly-ass GBA Player. C'mon. It feels like i'm using Super Game Boy. And that was a bit of a side-show device). But who am i to complain, especially in the wake of this news that mother 3 really is coming. i actually do believe Itoi this time

actually i always believed his news announcements.........fuck
 
This is fantastic news. I hope Itoi can make this as charming and quirky as the first game. After all it's been, what, ten years since Mother 2? I won't be surprised if this game feels almost nothing like Earthbound.
 
Dragona Akehi said:
You know, I'm going to have to disagree with you.

GBA, in my opinion is the worst place for Mother 3, not even touching the music issue. The original game design was for the N64DD and used many of its funky features. Rewritable media, internal clock... all this is going to be lost with a puny little GBA cart.

That would be a valid concern if he was redeveloping the N64 product, but he isn't. This is completely original
 
VistraNorrez said:
That would be a valid concern if he was redeveloping the N64 product, but he isn't. This is completely original

I wonder why Itoi's chosen to keep the subtitle from the n64 game. I'm torn between having Ness and the gang be part of Mother 3 or the cowboy guy for something completely different.
 
VistraNorrez said:
That would be a valid concern if he was redeveloping the N64 product, but he isn't. This is completely original

It's completely different because he couldn't make it in his original vision. Which still makes it a shame. :P

As I said before, I'm definately going to buy it and I'm not hating it. But I'd definately loved to see what could have been done with Mother 3 in its original incarnation.
 
$10 says it goes to #1 on Famitsu's Most Wanted Chart (after FFXII is released of course). Japanese fan.... they predicted this days years ago!
 
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