i'm too lazy to check if anybody said this already, but i was wondering: maybe NOA is waiting until around Mother 3's hopeful US launch to release Mother 1+2 ... that way Earthbound would be fresh on gamers minds again; it'd move alot more copies of Mother 3 that way (in the west)
i'm too lazy to check if anybody said this already, but i was wondering: maybe NOA is waiting until around Mother 3's hopeful US launch to release Mother 1+2 ... that way Earthbound would be fresh on gamers minds again; it'd move alot more copies of Mother 3 that way (in the west)
GBA, in my opinion is the worst place for Mother 3, not even touching the music issue. The original game design was for the N64DD and used many of its funky features. Rewritable media, internal clock... all this is going to be lost with a puny little GBA cart.
Shigesato Itoi is going to have to compromise everything about Mother 3's original design to put it on the GBA, other than, perhaps, the story. This is a terrible shame.
Personally I'd like to see it on Revolution. Because Shigesato is a crazy motherfucker. Remember he made you sing into the Famicom microphone to play one of his games. Of anyone to utilize the strange and unproven Revolution controller, I think Itoi would be the only person to be able to do it. Right.
I understand where you're coming from. You want a nice 2D nostalgic RPG to take you back to the original SNES release. As a fan of Itoi and his craziness though and knowing about his original vision for Mother 3, the news way back when about it going to GBA was very disappointing.
The only thing that the GBA has going for it is the portability. And to be honest, the music is going to be crap. GBA 8bit output sucks.
The DS would be a better choice. It may not have the rewritable capabilities of the N64DD (unless it shipped with a FLASH ROM cart just for that) but at least there'd be an internal Clock and other features that the N64DD had as well.
I'm just sad that we'll never see what Mother 3 could have been (if it even makes release on the GBA).
I like Itoi's quirks as much as next guy, but N64 thing is dead and I'm pretty happy the GBA won't let his crazy imagination get the best of him (in the favour of quality gameplay or whatever). Maybe that represents a lack of faith on my part, but I'm happy it's coming in the form I've always imagined.
I thought they WERE going to be in. If I remember correctly......
Back when I got Nintendo Power (wow long time ago) they ran some really early screens of EBDD. One of the screenshots had the whole cast, including Mr. Saturn, and Dr. Andonuts. The article described a part from the game where Ness and crew needed to cross a scorching desert, and did so by using an Icecream cone shaped tank. There was a blurb about the runaway five being in the game. MUCH LATER, after the DD had been scraped, there was mention of the game again. This time it was called 'EarthBound: the Forest of Chimera' or something close. It was now about a man in a cowboy hat, his two sons and thier dog. None of the Mother 2 characters seemed to be anywhere. When He finally first announced that Mother 3 was being delevopted for the GBA (about the time they announced EB 1+2), he said he was going back to using the original idea and story for the game. Since its called Death of the Pig King(which most would agree would have to be Pokey), I assumed it would be with Ness. Not sure though, I dont think any story details have been confirmed.
Personally I'd like to see it on Revolution. Because Shigesato is a crazy motherfucker. Remember he made you sing into the Famicom microphone to play one of his games. Of anyone to utilize the strange and unproven Revolution controller, I think Itoi would be the only person to be able to do it. Right.
I don't see how anyone can be saying Mother 3 shouldn't be on the GBA because the GBA is too low tech. Earthbound was one of the crappiest looking RPGs on the SNES. Look at Earthbound then look at Secret of Mana or Chrono Trigger. The style of Earthbound both visually and musically is very plain. I really wouldn't worry about it.
I like Itoi's quirks as much as next guy, but N64 thing is dead and I'm pretty happy the GBA won't let his crazy imagination get the best of him (in the favour of quality gameplay or whatever). Maybe that represents a lack of faith on my part, but I'm happy it's coming in the form I've always imagined.
Maybe it is, maybe it isn't. I've just see you ranting about "non games" in many other threads, and while I'm extremely skeptical of the Revolution controller, and am very "meh" to the stylus, I can't help but be extremely disappointed that his original vision is lost. You can't say that Itoi's crazy imagination won't equal "quality gameplay". I guess that's the part that had been irking me.
Earthbound/Mother has never been about "normalcy" (asides from the borrowed DQ mechanics) and personally, I saw the series only getting weirder. So this doesn't make me happy to have it go completely in the opposite direction from what I've always imagined.
Agree to disagree? I suppose that's all there is to it.
Maybe it is, maybe it isn't. I've just see you ranting about "non games" in many other threads, and while I'm extremely skeptical of the Revolution controller, and am very "meh" to the stylus, I can't help but be extremely disappointed that his original vision is lost. You can't say that Itoi's crazy imagination won't equal "quality gameplay". I guess that's the part that had been irking me.
Earthbound/Mother has never been about "normalcy" (asides from the borrowed DQ mechanics) and personally, I saw the series only getting weirder. So this doesn't make me happy to have it go completely in the opposite direction from what I've always imagined.
Agree to disagree? I suppose that's all there is to it.
but imagine if it was on DS, and we had to deal with terrible N64-quality 3D.
I know I'm complaining for no reason anyway, even if it WAS on DS or Rev I'd probably be a total fanboy for the game. But like you said, we've just imagined different paths for the game. I like the restraint, you want to see it float to the moon. Both of us are likely gonna enjoy it either way, so meh
I think haters should stop complaining about it going to the GBA and buy it anyways. What better way to assure a sequel on the DS or Rev than having "Mother 3" sell great?
Besides...there are enough 3D RPGS out there now...lemme enjoy an original (See: Non-Remake) 2D adventure. I hate that I'm more excited for FFIV than FFXII. The fact that we've waited so long for a new installment in this series and people STILL bitch confounds me.
Can't do much about rewritable media, but if Mother 3 still calls for an internal clock, hell, Pokemon on the GBC could do that much with an on-board chip addition. GBA as well, of course.
EDIT: I'm just joking around but I didn't think I'd see that tag again and given by the same person, haha. Hopefully I'll be given a nicer tag instead.
I can't help but be extremely disappointed that his original vision is lost. You can't say that Itoi's crazy imagination won't equal "quality gameplay". I guess that's the part that had been irking me.
funny you should say that since i just started playing Mario & Luigi: Superstar Saga again and I couldn't help but notice how great the music and sfx sound.
Maybe its the bologny sandwich eating robot, maybe its the trout flavored icecream, and there's a chance its the Haiku; "When on you way out
Be sure that you say goodbye,
Then lock the door tight"
Its just.... well isn't it
I could probably give you a really gushing report on why I love EB, but nobody will read it and it'd be lame and filled with hyperbole.
So basically, it's fairly different, it's charming and a lot weird too, and it's just memorable. Try it out and form your own opinion though, seriously. You owe it to great justice.
Mother 2 / Earthbound. Honestly, it's my favorite RPG ever, if not, my most favorite game ever.I've beaten it many times and it always amazes me how well-crafted it is. The story line and plot is profound, the settings and experiences are unforgettable
When Master Belch is kicking your butt and all of the sudden Poo appears out of nowhere with the newly acquired StarStorm or when Paula is kidnapped in a blackout, or when you enter behind the bar counter at Fourside and it turns into the friggen weird-as-hell "Moonside" where no means yes and yes means no and the music is so twisted, or when you fight carbon dog and right when you think you've beaten him, diamond dog appears, or the fact that your brain needs to be implanted in robots in order for you to fight Giygas.
It's like a friggen weird dream. ., the music is friggen awesome (it has the most songs/themes than any other SNES game ever), the characters, bad guys, items, weapons, powers are very unique and rather imaginative. There is such craftiness in the game...I agree with the posters who said that the game is genius.
The people involved in this game MUST'VE BEEN SNACKING ON PEYOTE. Honestly, if this game was a movie, it would be one of those rare, once in a lifetime high quality pieces of art. Some of the moods in this game to me resemble Miyazake's works like Spirited Away, Princess Mononoke, etc.
I would also say, that if Earthbound were a band/group it would be a mixture of Radiohead and Aphex Twin. I guess the strange and awkward moods have something to do with it.
The game is genius. No other game like it. It always always always pwns me; from an artistic and critical standpoint. It's a really deep game, it's just that it's kind of slow at the beginning but then it just explodes into pure blissful madness with much substance.
Trust me,
play the game atleast till "Moonside"
then, judge the game. don't be turned off by the battle system to soon, be patient and give it a very bold try.
God BorkBork, that shit is filled with spoilers and he never played it before :|
Also it's not really...yeah. Just spoiler it to be friendly
For me, the game is summed up in just the little moments.
Finding a contact lens. Reading about HAL Labratory near Mt. Fuji on a billboard. Talking to Venus' mom, to hear her voice concerns about her daughter posing provacatively in magazines. A memory of Ness past, his mother and father hovering over his crib, hoping for the most genuine of all hopes.
They're moments that happen to be intertwined with pleasant memories from my youth and no doubt that heightened the impact they had on me, but I play the game routinely and it's always the same love I feel for it. It's also one of the most surprising games because while it has all these funny and genuinely charming moments, it also has scenes that are nostalgic and sweet and a little sad all at the same time.
Furthermore, Japanese writer Shigesato Itoi was quick to promote the game on his website. This is noteworthy because no one tells Shigesato Itoi what to do; he does what he feels like. Case in point: fans have been telling him for nine years to finish his videogame Mother 3, and he's just getting around to it now, inspired by Brain Training, the DS, the Nintendo Revolution, and the prospects for the future.
Shigesato Itoi (pictured) is to return to his opus, Mother 3; that game is the sequel to the only videogame ever to be regarded by Japanese literary critics as something worthwhile. Mother 3 will be a fetishistic retread of the same themes as Mother 2 unless Itoi's artistic conscience gets the better of him.
Regardless of the outcome, Mother 3 will sell well and be a cultural phenomenon for a while. Itoi will finish building his bridge, and then burn it. The next age of game design, as Itoi frankly (and somewhat apocalyptically) describes it, will finally begin: an age where two or three friends can get together and produce a game on design alone.
It's great, as long as I get Mother 3. I'm just happy it's on GBA, don't want Itoi to get too carried away with the crazy and make some lame touch screen battle system. He's inspired by Brain Training after all, you never know what could result!
I hope Mother 3 is so successful, and that US actually gets it, so we can get Mother DS and Mother Rev and Mother Evo.
Yeah it's perfectly acceptable to use threatening language when discussing Mother 3 coming to the USA. They must know how serious the Nintendo army is. Mobilization of the entire country, if possible.
Yeah it's perfectly acceptable to use threatening language when discussing Mother 3 coming to the USA. They must know how serious the Nintendo army is. Mobilization of the entire country, if possible.
