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Opera hits 300 million user mark, celebrates by switching to webkit

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grumpy

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http://www.opera.com/press/releases/2013/02/13/


Opera Software today announced reaching the milestone of 300 million monthly users across all its browser products on phones, tablets, TVs and computers.

"300 million marks the first lap, but the race goes on," says Lars Boilesen, CEO of Opera Software. "On the final stretch up to 300 million users, we have experienced the fastest acceleration in user growth we have ever seen. Now, we are shifting into the next gear to claim a bigger piece of the pie in the smartphone market."

To provide a leading browser on Android and iOS, this year Opera will make a gradual transition to the WebKit engine, as well as Chromium, for most of its upcoming versions of browsers for smartphones and computers.

"The WebKit engine is already very good, and we aim to take part in making it even better. It supports the standards we care about, and it has the performance we need," says CTO of Opera Software, Håkon Wium Lie. "It makes more sense to have our experts working with the open source communities to further improve WebKit and Chromium, rather than developing our own rendering engine further. Opera will contribute to the WebKit and Chromium projects, and we have already submitted our first set of patches: to improve multi-column layout."

The first look at what Opera is bringing to the smartphone game as a result of this switch will be shown at Mobile World Congress in Barcelona this month, with a preview of its upcoming browser for Android.

"Opera is also experimenting with WebKit in several research and development projects, and many of you got a peek of one of them, codenamed ‘ICE’, last month. As a leading innovator in browsers, we are very excited that ICE received such great buzz. We will provide more information about ICE and other exciting R&D projects in the future, but as we are also really proud of our new browser on Android and our Opera Web Pass operator offering, those products will be the main focus at MWC," says Wium Lie. "The shift to WebKit means more of our resources can be dedicated to developing new features and the user-friendly solutions that can be expected from a company that invented so many of the features that are today being used by everyone in the browser industry."

Not sure about how I feel about this. Presto has been super reliable for me and has never let me down in all the years I've been an Opera user.

Now, how long until Mozilla makes the jump from Gecko to Webkit?
 

Alx

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Hm, so what could be the consequences for us Opera users ? Is it a good thing or a bad thing ?
 

grumpy

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Hm, so what could be the consequences for us Opera users ? Is it a good thing or a bad thing ?

Thanks to iOS and Android and the fact that Chrome is the dominant web browser on PCs, all modern websites are created with webkit compatibility in mind.
 
So we have Webkit, Gecko and IE left. Seems good to me. I think three is enough. Not too little to risk losing competition and innovation and not too much to make it unworkable for developers.
 
Opera has a lot of very cool features and is easily the best-looking browser but it's hard to customize and lots of things I like in Firefox just don't exist with Opera (drag and drop to save pictures, odd tab behaviour, etc.)
 

bbyybb

CGI bullshit is the death knell of cinema
Whilst it is a shame for them to lose their own engine, perhaps this will be better for them in the long run.

I wonder when this will be available on the desktop also.
 

Somnid

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I still use -o- css properties and js functions but I imagine most weren't (since every tutorial is about Chrome) and Opera was just getting the shit end of the not-really-standard-but-we'll-use-it-anyway types of cutting edge web design.
 
I've been using Opera for a long time now and don't really mind them switching rendering engines so long as browser features like per site preferences stay in.
 
I've been using Opera since v5; I even paid to remove the ads back then. It's sad to see it become Justanotherwebkitbrowser™.
 

moniker

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I still use -o- css properties and js functions but I imagine most weren't (since every tutorial is about Chrome) and Opera was just getting the shit end of the not-really-standard-but-we'll-use-it-anyway types of cutting edge web design.

The could have just dropped the prefixes for the usual stuff if that was a big problem.
 
Woah... I almost forgot that Opera existed... let alone hit the 300 Million user mark.

Switching to Webkit can't be a bad thing though, it will definitely help make web designers lives a little easier.
 

quaere

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I'm relieved Opera Ice doesn't appear to be the primary browser for Android. Not at all sold that gesture only is the most efficient interface for a mobile browser.
 

Polari

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Makes sense. Not sure how much benefit there is in developing and maintaining their own engine. Hopefully this means WebKit will see some substantial improvements too. Kind of nuts when you think about how it started out as a minor component of the KDE desktop on Linux, and now it's being actively developed by Apple, Google, Opera and Blackberry among others as well as being shipped on hundreds of millions of devices.
 

ThatObviousUser

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Semi mixed feelings about this but I'm at least glad Opera is trying to stay relevant.
 

kehs

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I retired oprah about a month ago.

Fucking Google and their god damn locking me in to their god damn services.

rip mouse gestures =(
 

injurai

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Wow, I may switch back to Opera. Been rooted into chrome for a while, can't stand IE and Firefox (not speed, just shortcuts and usability) but I think I could get used to their gestures again.
 

JaggedSac

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So we have Webkit, Gecko and IE left. Seems good to me. I think three is enough. Not too little to risk losing competition and innovation and not too much to make it unworkable for developers.

Agreed. As long as WebKit follows W3C standards, it should not be an issue, but we don't want another IE problem where devs target a rendering engine instead of a set of standards.
 

ThatObviousUser

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Not feeling too optimistic since it didn't seem to get much better after Chrome, but here's hoping...

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Erm, standards support got a fair bit better.
 
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