Can't aim as well because of stick whilst the turrets are incredibly fast at locking on to you.
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Can't aim as well because of stick whilst the turrets are incredibly fast at locking on to you.
Dead Prince
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one more level until i prestige. i'm going to savor this moment
Mr Nash
square pies = communism
White, white, gold (coins), white!
Wyndstryker
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Controllers just aren't as quick as mouse+keyboard. Turrets have tracking based on mouse+keyboard speeds which absolutely destroy controllers.
30% seems a little extreme though
It is. Makes Torb's turret completely worthless.
Chaotic-Strike
Banned
Should have nerfed the range and instant lock on but I'll take what I can get.
Turrets are really ruining the Xbox One version.
Turrets are really ruining the Xbox One version.
divisionbyzorro
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So what's the best way to beat a Torbjorn stack or Bastion combo when you're playing in quick play? I haven't found a reliable way other than playing Junkrat and hoping to get lucky with spam and tires (lucky in the sense that my team will back me up and follow through).
By yourself? Hope you are lucky and have a decent team who can work together and utilize the characters meant to counter them....
AdventureMike
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I really hope map banning never comes to the general game (quick play or competitive). Nothing gets more stale than playing the same 3 maps over and over again because the "community" has decided "these are the good maps".
For example, a lot of GAF seems to really love the KOTH maps. I dislike them personally and I know others do too, but I'm still cool with playing them when they come up. I just prefer the escort maps and the capture points.
For example, a lot of GAF seems to really love the KOTH maps. I dislike them personally and I know others do too, but I'm still cool with playing them when they come up. I just prefer the escort maps and the capture points.
Dead Prince
Banned
stop. we all know this will happen.
LonelyGreyWolf
Banned
If they nerf the lock on time, it'll be even easier for Pharahs, Widows, Hanzos and to some extent even Soldiers to go in and out of cover to take it out.
30% damage decrease is fine. Will make it even easier for tanks to wreck them too. DVa already wrecks Torbjörn as it is.
I'd take 500 coins over a random legendary any day of the week though.
Not Spaceghost
Spaceghost
Stuff like this was fixed on the PC version with the patch, I don't know if consoles have gotten this patch yet.
Bear Force One
Banned
Not a good look for Kaplan. Not a good precedent for balance going forward.
KINGofCRA5H
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Hopefully they explain their reasoning behind the nerf otherwise it seems like a bad knee-jerk reaction.
Dreams-Visions
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Dreams-Visions
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with -30%, you'll have more than a fighting chance for your long range damage dealers to take them out. Even with Torb actively healing them, they're only going to be able to absorb maybe 5 shots from Widow/Hanzo/McCree or a primary + helix combo from 76. That's all you really need. It's not a nerf that is supposed to allow you to ignore the turret; strategy will still be required. It's just not obnoxious and impossible to deal with.
Mobius and pet octopus
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So which Pharah skin should I use... hmmm...
Or
I thought they already nerfed turrets on consoles pre-launch? Like less damage or slower lock on... or both?
Also, ditto on the coins thing. When I get coins I am happy no matter the rarity. Epic coins = 10x rare duplicates, so it's like getting a lot of boxes of duplicates all in one. And I am also happy every time I get legendary coins, because I get a lot of skins for characters I don't play much (2 mercy, 2 mei, 2 symmetra - for example, although I play mercy some I don't really touch the other two).
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Also, ditto on the coins thing. When I get coins I am happy no matter the rarity. Epic coins = 10x rare duplicates, so it's like getting a lot of boxes of duplicates all in one. And I am also happy every time I get legendary coins, because I get a lot of skins for characters I don't play much (2 mercy, 2 mei, 2 symmetra - for example, although I play mercy some I don't really touch the other two).
I'd rather take the former over the latter. Nerfing the lock on time adds more viable counters sure, but the damage nerf makes Torb's greatest tool absolutely worthless.
Mobius and pet octopus
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I think the change to range is more problematic for balance since a lot of maps are designed with turret range in mind. DPS nerf is a cleaner change.
Yeah McCrees wasnt perfect either.
Nocturnowl
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I vote for Raindancer myself.
Mr Nash
square pies = communism
I like the first one better, personally.
LonelyGreyWolf
Banned
The first one is terrible. Looks like a toy. The second is much better.
Mobius and pet octopus
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I like them both. I bought mecha, got raindancer in a box. I love how raindancer has arrow shaped warheads though!
It will defently be easyer to deal with. But u dont need to place them in line of sight for snipers. If u place them so that you have to peak through the choke point to see them, you will have to deal with all other defending players at the same time. I think that will still be hard for solo teams to handle. But we will see.
He was clearly too easy to defend with, so im glad they did something..
Mobius and pet octopus
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What is world ranking actually based off?
Others already answered this but to be frank the answer is literally yes- snipers (like Widow) are at least 15% worse than PC on the ps4 (there was a reddit thread where they computed the stats based on masteroverwatch). Thus, those stupid turrets are ruining the game for console players
Glad I'm on PC.
Yep, the Reapers that have resulted from this are nightmarish
It's not only snipers. Everybody's movement is slowed and less precise due to gamepad limitations, and Turrets are still 100% precise and instant 360 auto lock. That's why they have to be balanced differently.
That's also why Bastion is fine on console, because it's still the player who got to aim.
Finally, a good site. Been wanting dotabuff style tracking. Masteroverwatch sucks
Mr Nash
square pies = communism
According to this there's someone named soullive with a record of 1,059 - 124. O_O
Meanwhile on PC. Although it's 10% higher for Torbjörn on consoles. Still high on PC.
So, I'm ranked 138 with Zarya in the world on PS4, what does that mean exactly? Just time played?
It is different though. Even if the speed of the character is the same, you will never make quick turns like with a Keyboard / Mouse. That's why FPS console footage always feel "underwater" compared to the PC.
Meanwhile on PC. Although it's 10% higher for Torbjörn on consoles. Still high on PC.
I have to say the K/D ratio of Torjb players is impressive, PC or console.
Watching videos people post on here and people definitely move slower/more predictable on consoles than they do on PC (even though the walk speed is the same). You can do so much more with a mouse and keyboard in regards to movement.
Had some decent games tonight on EU PC, either a fluke or maybe people are finally starting to get the hang of this game...but... yeah theres always a "but". I love playing with my GF, shes not the best player yet she does alright in fps games and in Overwatch she likes to play Pharah, S76, Hanzo and Widowmaker with the occasional dabble to Mercy / Reinhardt if the team is really desperate. When shes playing Hanzo or Widowmaker she won't however contest the point on overtime to try and buy the rest of the team that extra few seconds to get in there which is at times infuriating as hell.
Tonight I again found myself raising my voice at her, telling her "get on the point! get on the point! get on the point!!!" and she shouts back at me saying "whats the fucking point ? they'll just take me out!?". Yea true but she doesn't appear to understand the importance of the few seconds she could be buying the team. At this point I hammered the desk with my fist and said "I've been playing these sort of games for almost 15 years! ( Battlefields, TF2, CoD's etc. ) so stop questioning my logic! I know my shit I know what I'm talking about!".. Am I taking the game too seriously or is she just being a noob ?
Needless to say, some silent treatment followed but if theres a better player in the end of it somewhere, I consider it a job well done.
Honest question: Did your outburst at your chick actually include the parenthetical listing the first person shooters you'd been playing for the last 15 years, or was that added for our edification?
High because a playerbase of 10 million has lots of casual players.
Meanwhile on PC. Although it's 10% higher for Torbjörn on consoles. Still high on PC.
I move worse with aswd than with joystick, its aiming plus jpystick that is the problem.
For the most part, yeah. It just ranks by total points so the more time logged on a character naturally raises you. I'm not sure about the points per minute though...it says I'm #57 or so as Genji but I don't feel like I'm that great with him.
With movememt i guess they mean how you turn the screen and look around. That will of course be much faster with a kbm. You can turn around for a quick look on pc in a fraction of the time it takes on console.
Karspankey
Banned
Golly you guys. This game. Just got it today on PC (thanks GameStop and your 50% extra trade-in offer!). I played the beta on PS4, and tried it on Xbox ONE as well, but none of those do the game as right as playing it with a KB+M. I lost both of the matches I played so far, but it was still pretty fun which is something not experienced for me with other mp shooters. My fav play I had so far was getting launched into the air as Roadhog and chain-grabbing a Pharah mid-air, blowing her away. Super satisfying!
I do have a question though. I heard that you could change Lucio's keys so that you can switch to speed boost while holding shift and as soon as you let go, it switches back to health. How would I go about doing that? Also, are there any other sort of tricks like this? Thanks!
I do have a question though. I heard that you could change Lucio's keys so that you can switch to speed boost while holding shift and as soon as you let go, it switches back to health. How would I go about doing that? Also, are there any other sort of tricks like this? Thanks!
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