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Pavement - The Band
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Yeah, baby yeah! In the mouth a desert rocks!
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I like Pavement. Stephen Malkmus's solo albums haven't been as exciting as his former band's releases, but they're also pretty good.
Litigation Manuel
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I'd look into the Crooked Rain Crooked Rain rerelease; especially look into the tracks "Cut your hair" "silence kit" and "range life". Slanted and Enchanted is a good album too, pretty rough sounding, but quite enjoyable. I didn't quite get them at first, but they really grew on me. So is Malkmus' new solo album worthwhile? How does it compare to his or Pavement's other works?
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I'd honestly say my favorite is Brighten the Corners, but everyone seems to think Slanted and Enchanted and Crooked Rain Crooked Rain are the band's best albums.
The new album is pretty good, and that's all there is to say about it. He doesn't seem like he's trying to do anything new or exciting, and it shows. But you obviously like Malkmus, so it's worth checking out.
The new album is pretty good, and that's all there is to say about it. He doesn't seem like he's trying to do anything new or exciting, and it shows. But you obviously like Malkmus, so it's worth checking out.
Heaven is a truck
It got stuck
On the breeze
Asked the driver nicely,
I need a lift?
I need release.
The sand in the boats,
On the rose-covered floats
She is the queen of a canceled pasadena thrill
(california)
I know arks cant fly
I know the sharks, they dont have wings
But lady you need some cold advice
About a few things
Loosen my dress
Tie me up just like all the rest
She is the queen of a canceled pasadena, thrill
(california)
[repeats]
[although they may say castle a time or two]
It got stuck
On the breeze
Asked the driver nicely,
I need a lift?
I need release.
The sand in the boats,
On the rose-covered floats
She is the queen of a canceled pasadena thrill
(california)
I know arks cant fly
I know the sharks, they dont have wings
But lady you need some cold advice
About a few things
Loosen my dress
Tie me up just like all the rest
She is the queen of a canceled pasadena, thrill
(california)
[repeats]
[although they may say castle a time or two]
wandering goat
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I think their best album is Slanted and Enchanted followed closely by Crooked Rain Crooked Rain. Both are absolute classics, in particular the first album. You can't go wrong checking out any song from that one. Their third album is pretty good as well, though a little uneven (Wowee Zowee) and the ones that follow are even more so. Get the first two, preferably starting from the beginning, and get the rest if you become a big fan of them.
I have fond memories of Slanted and Enchanted. It was my very first indie album. It took me a while to get past the lo-fi sound but after that I was sold.
I have fond memories of Slanted and Enchanted. It was my very first indie album. It took me a while to get past the lo-fi sound but after that I was sold.
I've been listening to them since Slanted and Enchanted and I miss the Pavement tag bish gave me on the last board. Anyway, these are my favorite Pavement songs; I don't really like to compare albums since Pavement stands out to me more as songs than albums:
1. Give It a Day
2. Shady Lane
3. Cut Your Hair
4. Spit On a Stranger
5. Here
6. Rattled by the Rush
7. Black Out
8. Strings of Nashville
9. Stop Breathing
10. Starlings of the Slipstream
Eh there are so many great ones, it's hard to pick. I can understand how someone who hasn't listened to them since at least when Crooked Rain, Crooked Rain came out wouldn't "get" them, as there have been many pale imitations of Pavement's style since but in the early 90s they were basically the only guy band I listened to seriously and really enjoyed because they were so unique and just entertaining. Oh well at least I was lucky enough to catch them on their last tour. : /
1. Give It a Day
2. Shady Lane
3. Cut Your Hair
4. Spit On a Stranger
5. Here
6. Rattled by the Rush
7. Black Out
8. Strings of Nashville
9. Stop Breathing
10. Starlings of the Slipstream
Eh there are so many great ones, it's hard to pick. I can understand how someone who hasn't listened to them since at least when Crooked Rain, Crooked Rain came out wouldn't "get" them, as there have been many pale imitations of Pavement's style since but in the early 90s they were basically the only guy band I listened to seriously and really enjoyed because they were so unique and just entertaining. Oh well at least I was lucky enough to catch them on their last tour. : /
Mrjellybeanct
Member
Love just about everything by them. Can't wait for the rest of the albums to come out as two disc specials. The frist two are very nice packages.
I remember the first time I listened to Slanted and Enchanted.
August 3rd 1991.
Truth is the 2 later albums Malkmus was somewhat frustrated with the direction and in terms the ability of some of the band members as musicians. If you listen to Terror Twilight, its very cynical from his point. Everything from Self Titled to Face the Truth has been a much happier and self content SM. People never saw him like that so its hard to accept him like that.
Stephen Malkmus was a logical fountainhead of perpetual adroit who needed Spiral Stairs to avail to his lyrics because of his skills with a guitar. I.e. Texas never Whispers.
A good basis to start from as with any band is there original recordings, perhaps not far back as Demolition Plot, but most of those are on the Luxe and Reduxe, I have several copies of S&E and about 100 bootlegs of live concerts from the time of the album including a 1992 concert in San Francisco I went to where they played Perfume with the last off of shady lane and some other lyrics I have never heard them recant sense.
Macam, send me a PM and ill mail you some if youre interested.
"I can hear the follower's cry"
Wowee Zowee by far personifies them better than the first 2 and the last 2. Takes the good thing of S&E and Cr, Cr and the best from BTC and TT into one giant melting pot of lyrical distinction. Brighten the Corners and Terror Twilight was produced into something that they were never meant to become.
Don't get me wrong, they are great albums on their own, they just carried a much unmitigated feel. Where as Wowee Zowee in my opinion is the perfect fit in terms of studio vs. garage for what they were trying to get across.
Its a myth that tracks on an album must flow together to make the album great.
From "We Dance" to "Western Homes" the album is beautiful. And suffers from the era in which it was released. It's Pavement at their most intermixed. They made each others skills better and the album live is just as good if not better then Radiohead live.
Ive been witnessed to the playing of Wowee Zowee in its entirety twice in my life. The first time they played it at Cane's in San Diego I think in 1995, "We Dance" to "Western Homes" then they played a bunch of other stuff.
I saw them like 12-15 months later at the El Ray in Los Angeles, I was waiting inline for the can and Spiral comes up and waits also with a friend of his. The guy was asking about the set list, Spiral mentioned that they havent really discussed it yet, and the guy mentioned that it would be cool of they just played one of there albums in its entirety. Spiral said they never did that and I corrected him, telling him about SD and the guy who kept yelling for "The Hexx" (which was me, I had heard a bootleg of it and was dieing for a live version), he remembered and said who knows.
They Opened with "The Hexx" and then played a bunch of things off Brighten The Corners including a 19 minutes version of "We are underused" nothing from Wowee Zowee though, which disappointed a lot of people because "Grounded" live is like heroine.
The concert was them and I believe Guided by Voices, who I wasnt a big fan of at the time but senses have come to love Rob Pollard and his Ohio jinks. RIP! GBV. (I witnessed a 5 hour set by them in November down at Cane's)
I digress. Rob Pollard was very sick and they didnt play so Pavement covered them by playing Wowee Zowee, back to front, 2 different versions of grounded, A bob west version of Shady Lane and a musical only without lyrics of Half a Canyon. Total it was like a 3-4 hour set and what was come to be, Jennifer and the Ess-dog. Except it were Sean and the debutant. He was 18 and she was 31.
August 3rd 1991.
Truth is the 2 later albums Malkmus was somewhat frustrated with the direction and in terms the ability of some of the band members as musicians. If you listen to Terror Twilight, its very cynical from his point. Everything from Self Titled to Face the Truth has been a much happier and self content SM. People never saw him like that so its hard to accept him like that.
Stephen Malkmus was a logical fountainhead of perpetual adroit who needed Spiral Stairs to avail to his lyrics because of his skills with a guitar. I.e. Texas never Whispers.
A good basis to start from as with any band is there original recordings, perhaps not far back as Demolition Plot, but most of those are on the Luxe and Reduxe, I have several copies of S&E and about 100 bootlegs of live concerts from the time of the album including a 1992 concert in San Francisco I went to where they played Perfume with the last off of shady lane and some other lyrics I have never heard them recant sense.
Macam, send me a PM and ill mail you some if youre interested.
"I can hear the follower's cry"
Wowee Zowee by far personifies them better than the first 2 and the last 2. Takes the good thing of S&E and Cr, Cr and the best from BTC and TT into one giant melting pot of lyrical distinction. Brighten the Corners and Terror Twilight was produced into something that they were never meant to become.
Don't get me wrong, they are great albums on their own, they just carried a much unmitigated feel. Where as Wowee Zowee in my opinion is the perfect fit in terms of studio vs. garage for what they were trying to get across.
Its a myth that tracks on an album must flow together to make the album great.
From "We Dance" to "Western Homes" the album is beautiful. And suffers from the era in which it was released. It's Pavement at their most intermixed. They made each others skills better and the album live is just as good if not better then Radiohead live.
Ive been witnessed to the playing of Wowee Zowee in its entirety twice in my life. The first time they played it at Cane's in San Diego I think in 1995, "We Dance" to "Western Homes" then they played a bunch of other stuff.
I saw them like 12-15 months later at the El Ray in Los Angeles, I was waiting inline for the can and Spiral comes up and waits also with a friend of his. The guy was asking about the set list, Spiral mentioned that they havent really discussed it yet, and the guy mentioned that it would be cool of they just played one of there albums in its entirety. Spiral said they never did that and I corrected him, telling him about SD and the guy who kept yelling for "The Hexx" (which was me, I had heard a bootleg of it and was dieing for a live version), he remembered and said who knows.
They Opened with "The Hexx" and then played a bunch of things off Brighten The Corners including a 19 minutes version of "We are underused" nothing from Wowee Zowee though, which disappointed a lot of people because "Grounded" live is like heroine.
The concert was them and I believe Guided by Voices, who I wasnt a big fan of at the time but senses have come to love Rob Pollard and his Ohio jinks. RIP! GBV. (I witnessed a 5 hour set by them in November down at Cane's)
I digress. Rob Pollard was very sick and they didnt play so Pavement covered them by playing Wowee Zowee, back to front, 2 different versions of grounded, A bob west version of Shady Lane and a musical only without lyrics of Half a Canyon. Total it was like a 3-4 hour set and what was come to be, Jennifer and the Ess-dog. Except it were Sean and the debutant. He was 18 and she was 31.
I'm a huge Pavement fan. 
All of their albums are excellent, really. I still haven't heard Terror Twilight though, embarrassingly enough.
Personally I prefer Slanted and Crooked Rain, though possibly because those are the albums that first got me into the band. Their first three as a whole sound more distinctive imo, while Brighten the Corners kind of foreshadowed the approach Malkmus would take on his solo stuff. BtC's not as messy or all over the place as the first three. Some see that as a bonus, but I think that's what made Pavement so much fun for me.
I do think Malkmus' new album is the closest he's made to a "vintage Pavement" album, and he's starting to re-introduce the messiness into his sound. If you get the chance to see him live, go!!
All of their albums are excellent, really. I still haven't heard Terror Twilight though, embarrassingly enough. Personally I prefer Slanted and Crooked Rain, though possibly because those are the albums that first got me into the band. Their first three as a whole sound more distinctive imo, while Brighten the Corners kind of foreshadowed the approach Malkmus would take on his solo stuff. BtC's not as messy or all over the place as the first three. Some see that as a bonus, but I think that's what made Pavement so much fun for me.
I do think Malkmus' new album is the closest he's made to a "vintage Pavement" album, and he's starting to re-introduce the messiness into his sound. If you get the chance to see him live, go!!
enjoy bell woods
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I wasn't saying anything to the contrary. I was offering my own opinion.
Some people just live to be confrontational.
Some people just live to be confrontational.
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