BLACK AMERICAN PSYCHO
Junior Member
Me too, I'm one of the weirdos who feels like a lot Kaneko art looks better in 3D. If P5 goes with Kaneko demon designs again, I'd like to see this guy included. I'dike to see Macabre too.
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Persona Community Thread |OT6| Where 6 Comes Before 5 (No PQ or P4U spoilers!)
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names2hard4you
Member
Too late, I must experience the quickening.
Also, have a Chie.
Wasn't a huge fan of Chie before (yeah yeah, jump on me PGAF), but this cosplay right here is awesome.
Wasn't able to keep up with the thread today guys, finals are tearing me a new one. Gonna be somewhat absent a few days for the next week or two.
I did read the news about Marie though, and as I said before, I don't mid her one bit now. She's more than welcome into the roster, and getting her at launch along with [Redacted] is great! One character to go? (Margaret I guess)
Chrono Helix
Member
Weapon elements aren't really that important past the first dungeon, sadly.
Playing strange journey and god damn, definitely one of the best megaten demon designs
Indeed.
It's going to suck to have to go back to ~130 demons/personas after SMT IV. So many great designs have yet to show up in Persona, and unfortunately there's already going to be a ton of staples to fill in most of the roster.
Chrono Helix
Member
Any idea if she's also free for other regions?
BLACK AMERICAN PSYCHO
Junior Member
This is the best Soejima design, would be amazing if P5 looked similar.
Quality>>>>>Quantity imo. I hated almost every new and super old demon SMT IV added in/brought back.
MiguelMexMIstery
Member
Just realized they changed Mitsuru's attack type from P3.
Ganzlinger
Member
Speaking of which... there are lots of personas in P3/P4 with bad design that needs to be upgraded. I hope we have this in P5.
A Dead Diehard
Member
There's a few SMT4 demons I'd like to see in P5. I know we can't get all of them because there's just too damn many, but if someone uses Ammit the Devourer, I'll be a happy guy!
EDIT: Also, I don't care that it's spelt 'Ammut'. It doesn't sound nearly as cool.
Ganzlinger
Member
As said above, quality is better than quantity. I wouldn't mind if they reduce a little the amount of Personas available if they improve their quality, including balance, functionality and design. Said that, I wouldn't mind an overhaul that brings a lot of better demons from SMT to Persona even if they replace older ones.
BLACK AMERICAN PSYCHO
Junior Member
I'd like to see Team Maniax on PS4.
A Dead Diehard
Member
True. Though I guess Mara, Satan, Lucifer, and the Jack bros. are non-negotiable.
Here's an idea for the thread. What personae would you sacrifice to make way for newcomers?
For me, it would be Tam Lin, Sun Wukong, and either Shiva or Vishnu.
Well, it is listed as 'artillery'. I guess grenades or rockets technically count as strike.
Despite her normal attack being pierce, Aigis primarily had strike physical skills in Persona 3. Guess they felt the need to change it.
Ganzlinger
Member
Legion... I hate those heads... lol
Hecatoncheires is also terribly done.
Anybody here would like to see a Mara upgrade? lol
Ganzlinger
Member
Wait, they won't be able to switch Personas?
Switching Sub-Personas doesn't switch resistances.
Ganzlinger
Member
What about the weaknesses?
A Dead Diehard
Member
Presumably the same. SPOILERS FOR PQ
Though apparently main personas evolve after certain bonus bosses.
Real Conclusion: I'm insane and therefore must play on Risky as the P3 protagonist.
The Japanese are saying that Makoto on RISKY is like super-duper-ultra-mega hard mode, since everything and their mother uses Mudo in the lategame.
Please tag this, just in case.
"Resistances" in this case refers to not merely what they resist, but everything. So yeah none of that changes with the sub-persona.
Excellent.
It's not a MegaTen game until one wrong step sends you spiraling down to hell.
Ganzlinger
Member
Damn, this is sabotage with Makoto. P4 nation still attacking. lol
Xenoflare
Member
So there is a difference between pierce and ranged pierce?
A Dead Diehard
Member
Well, there's no '1 More' system in Q, to my knowledge. So weaknesses probably aren't as crippling as they used to be. As for Game Over when the chosen protag dies, I'm not sure. Can we get a confirmation/denial?
Fact #1: Setting the difficulty mode to RISKY in Persona Q makes it so you get a game over when the protagonist dies.
Fact #2:
Conclusion:
Yu being the superior protagonist is now canon.
I probably won't be playing Risky, though. I always find it annoying when JRPGs end when the protag is KO'd. I feel like it'd especially annoying in an EO-type game.
Ranged Pierce users can attack enemies that are in the backrow. Furthermore, Ranged Pierce users can attack enemies from the front row.
If it makes you feel any better, Makoto's natural skillset is better than Yu's.
Ganzlinger
Member
Thank you!
Xenoflare
Member
Are there any of the other physical attack attributes have a ranged variant?
TurnipFritters
Member
Not to my knowledge, no.
Incidentally, the stat spreads in Persona Q are much, much, much better than in your typical Persona game. They're unique and suit the individual character, rather than a balanced mess that was present in Persona 3 (and to a lesser extent, Persona 4)
Considering how limited natural skillsets are, that's not saying much
PQ skillset spoiler
Perhaps, but Dekaja is infinitely more useful than Dekunda and he gets DEBILITATE.
The things they did to the movesets of the personas is honestly the one thing I find most infuriating about the game. I know they needed to have characters specialize, but what they did to some of them
, really guys?
I had asked before, but how is PQ in terms of bonus content? Like EO usually has post end-game dungeons and the like, does that happen in PQ as well?
(read: Yukiko)
I had asked before, but how is PQ in terms of bonus content? Like EO usually has post end-game dungeons and the like, does that happen in PQ as well?
Xenoflare
Member
Cool, I have one more question, (probably more to come but this just popped up)
During the trailers I saw the level up screen of characters, and their empty skill slot has SKILL CARD over it, does that mean we have to unlock them before they fill up?
Xenoflare
Member
I heard that
Yukiko gains Dia later than Yukari, making the early game for the P4 side harder than P3.
Ganzlinger
Member
I'm satisfied now.
Yukiko's role in the party is just weird to me to begin with. She learns Salvation, the strongest healing spell in the Persona series, but yet doesn't have any access at all to any aoe healing spells in PQ(including salvation).
Like I said, I get that they needed to have characters specialize more, but I was way more excited for this when I had figured they would try to tie characters into specific class types(ala EO). I don't know what to think of the game now if the combat isn't really all that fun...
Xenoflare
Member
What.
So she only get's single target healing spells? Is she now a pure offensive magical character that specialize in fire? This is very odd indeed. Is Yukari the major healer then? I don't think these are spoilers, but anyways
TurnipFritters
Member
Yukari gets
the Dia/Garu/Media sets
the Agi/Maragi/Dia sets
In any case, sub-Personas exist to make up for the skill deficit their main ones so it's not like characters are locked into only three skills for most of the game.
That's because they tried to avoid redundancy between skillsets. Yukari is the dedicated healer. She learns both single target and multi target healing spells, but in exchange, she only comes equipped with single target Garu spells.
In any case, skill cards allow you to completely remedy this, since you can teach Yukari multi target Garu spells, and multi target healing spells for Yukiko.
In any case, skill cards allow you to completely remedy this, since you can teach Yukari multi target Garu spells, and multi target healing spells for Yukiko.
Did anyone who went to AX or EVO get to try Yukari? I'm wondering how big her execution barrier is. Does she have anything like 5A pickups in combos or anything?
I mean, it is P4U, so I'm not TOO worried, but I am a scrub too. There's only really one good Yukari player (Tahichi), and I'm wondering if that's because she's too hard or sucks or whatever.
I mean, it is P4U, so I'm not TOO worried, but I am a scrub too. There's only really one good Yukari player (Tahichi), and I'm wondering if that's because she's too hard or sucks or whatever.
Xenoflare
Member
TurnipFritters
Member
Basically, each character has a set of skills that upgrade as they level. In Yukari's case, she gets the Dia, Garu and Media line of spells - as she levels up, eventually Dia will be replaced by Diarama and eventually by Diarahan, Garu will evolve into Garula and then that will become Garudyne, etc. Everyone's skill set goes up to completion in this manner, so if someone has Agi they're gonna end up with Agidyne if you level them long enough.
Yukari gets all single and multi target heals, while Yukiko only gets single targets.
And skill cards COULD remedy the situation depending on how you can even access them. Not even sure how this game accomplishes giving them out.
Xenoflare
Member
I see.... any other character that has Dia/Media? What about Recarm? Sorry about the barrage of the questions lol