Is this old? I don't think I had heard about vehicles so far.
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Zeo said:
Dude, it's not a fucking MMO that requires a monthly fee to maintain. It's a fucking Diablo clone where there is a hub there people meet and then you go on group-based adventures. It is not a MMORPG and thus there is no need to charge a monthly fee.
Zeo said:
And you're an idiot, what else is new?
Online details, including pricing haven't been revealed. The combat-system is a big improvement over PSO, it's basically Zelda with variable combos and dual-wielding. It's NOT Diablo!
PSO online in it's early days was one of best games I've played, and I can't wait for PSU. If don't want to pay to play it then fine, play the RPG mode offline or don't play it all.\
Bitching about PSO's online fees is getting very boring. We've heard it all before!
PSO online in it's early days was one of best games I've played, and I can't wait for PSU. If don't want to pay to play it then fine, play the RPG mode offline or don't play it all.\
Bitching about PSO's online fees is getting very boring. We've heard it all before!
Zeo said:
Why should you pay a monthly fee for a game that doesn't need it. It's like paying a monthly fee to play UT2004 or Counterstrike as it's the exact same type of setup. And the comparison to Guild Wars is dead on as Guild Wars is set up exactly like PSO/PSU. If you've ever played the game you'd know that.
PSU is easily one of my most anticipated titles of next year. The offline portion sounds interesting and it's good to see a more robust single-player mode return to Phantasy Star but the online portion will be great as always. Though the only reason I can imagine them charging would be for the server-side saving of the characters which is great because it will definitely cut down on the damn cheaters.
All these details are from the original press-release over a year ago, they aren't new.
No details about the online mode have been revealed, not even on the Japanese site yet. All that's known is that it will expand on PSO. They'll be new info about it at TGS, where PSO always gets loads of attention.
You can recite your tired complaints about paying to play it again then.
No details about the online mode have been revealed, not even on the Japanese site yet. All that's known is that it will expand on PSO. They'll be new info about it at TGS, where PSO always gets loads of attention.
You can recite your tired complaints about paying to play it again then.
Zeo said:
I called it a clone of Diablo (which PSO is, despite what its fans want to believe), or Guild Wars which has since come out after PSO and is much more complex AND is not charging any type of monthly fee.
If a game that is much more complex than PSO/PSU is not charging a monthly fee, why the fuck should Sega? Because they need (or deserve) the money? Bullshit.
krypt0nian
Banned
Zeo said:
You are the very last person on these board to be calling anyone an idiot.
Very last.
Scott said:
FUCKING OWNED.
I never knew people could be such dicks about online RPGs.
ManaByte, I don't see why there shouldn't be an online fee at all. Sega needs to provide servers to host the game, and those servers need staff to maintain. It might not be as resource-intensive as any MMORPG, but it still requires resources.
$13 is too much though
ManaByte, I don't see why there shouldn't be an online fee at all. Sega needs to provide servers to host the game, and those servers need staff to maintain. It might not be as resource-intensive as any MMORPG, but it still requires resources.
$13 is too much though
Uncle Dukey
Member
Jonnyram said:I never knew people could be such dicks about online RPGs.
ManaByte, I don't see why there shouldn't be an online fee at all. Sega needs to provide servers to host the game, and those servers need staff to maintain. It might not be as resource-intensive as any MMORPG, but it still requires resources.
$13 is too much though
His point is that Blizzard (Battle.NET for Diablo 1/2) and NCsoft (Guild Wars) also need servers and staff to maintain.
krypt0nian
Banned
Excelion said:Uhhh, did you guys miss the part where it has a 40 hour single player adventure included?? Why all the bitching about the monthly fees??? This isn't like FF XI or Wow, you don't have to pay those fees to experience the game. This game looks fantastic IMO.
PSU is not about the single player. I thought you knew better.
DonasaurusRex
Online Ho Champ
IF your online character is stored server side i could understand but if like all the other PSO's everything is basically client side...why pay? People will probably end up running their own private servers heh.
Blizzard and NCsoft both have totally different business models to Sega, though. Maybe Sega isn't as experienced with online games, I don't know. But there *is* justification for a fee of some sort. I agree that $13 is taking the piss though. Besides, the Japanese industry seems to have more of a habit for charging for online than the West... Bomberman online, Winning Eleven online, etc. all have ridiculous monthly fees on PS2.Uncle Dukey said:
krypt0nian
Banned
Excelion said:
PSU is not about the online. Unreal Tournament has a single player mode too.
Well Krypt, a man can dream can't he? 
I'm envisioning a true phantasy star sequel, with the online mode tacked on for added effect.
http://ps2.ign.com/objects/683/683215.html
I'm envisioning a true phantasy star sequel, with the online mode tacked on for added effect.http://ps2.ign.com/objects/683/683215.html
And for a console example, "Champions: Return to Arms" for PS2 has server side saves, and is free as well.ManaByte said:
Well, it's different here. While offline play in Diablo, Diablo 2, PSO, etc was basically just running through the online game by yourself, Phantasy Star Universe's single-player mode is completely seperate. There's now a story-driven quest, you play a pre-created character (Ethan Waber), there's a cast of supporting characters (all voice acted, to note), you get AI-controlled party members, etc...blackadde said:
It's quite different, and if it ends up even half as expansive as SEGA is claiming, it should be worth the price of admission for the solo game alone. I guess we'll see.
krypt0nian
Banned
Excelion said:Well Krypt, a man can dream can't he?
http://ps2.ign.com/objects/683/683215.html
Dude I am with you there! A full Phantasy Star is what I'm after.
DonasaurusRex
Online Ho Champ
ManaByte said:
yeah but all your inventory was client side in d2 *painfully easy to hack*, and even moreso all of the things a MMORPG handles server side was client side on D2 like drop rate for instance *yeah you could hack that shit*. Having a server that can handle all kinds of transactions is different than having a server that basically stores a small DAT file on an account, and connects players. Besides...blizz got ATT to host for them maybe Sega isnt so close with NTT over in japan heh. Guildwars is some streaming technology im not sure how that works but arena.net are the old b.net guys so whatever, they figured out a way to do it go arena.net.
http://phantasystaruniverse.com/
http://www.planetdreamcast.com/psoworld/
for people not here to troll PSU. both have new media about PSU. PSOW has some scans from the recent famitsu.
im looking forward to this game
edit (just some tidbits):
* Characters: There will be over 10 different main characters that will travel with Ethan in the offline portion of the game.
* Bosses: Sonic Team is promising over 20 bosses in PSU.
* Music & Sound: The sound track will include some of the orchestrated music we're used to, but each of the three planets in the game will have their own style of music. There will also be over three hours of recorded voiceovers.
* Offline/Online Stories: The online and offline stories will be completely different, but during the online play you will run into characters from the offline story, which will tie things together a bit. The offline portion is said to be 40 to 50 hours of gameplay.
* Character Creation: Character creation will be far more advanced than in PSO, giving players the ability to tweak things such as eye spacing and jaw structure.
* Mags: There will be some kind of mag-like feature in PSU, but its role will be different than what we're used to in PSO.
* Party Size: While the final party size limit is still unknown, Sonic Team does want parties to be larger than in PSO, meaning we will possibly have more than 4 party members in PSU.
* Platform Features: USB keyboards WILL be supported on the PS2, but voice chat is not yet confirmed. Sega is also trying to allow PC and PS2 players the ability to play alongside each other.
http://www.planetdreamcast.com/psoworld/
for people not here to troll PSU. both have new media about PSU. PSOW has some scans from the recent famitsu.
im looking forward to this game
edit (just some tidbits):
* Characters: There will be over 10 different main characters that will travel with Ethan in the offline portion of the game.
* Bosses: Sonic Team is promising over 20 bosses in PSU.
* Music & Sound: The sound track will include some of the orchestrated music we're used to, but each of the three planets in the game will have their own style of music. There will also be over three hours of recorded voiceovers.
* Offline/Online Stories: The online and offline stories will be completely different, but during the online play you will run into characters from the offline story, which will tie things together a bit. The offline portion is said to be 40 to 50 hours of gameplay.
* Character Creation: Character creation will be far more advanced than in PSO, giving players the ability to tweak things such as eye spacing and jaw structure.
* Mags: There will be some kind of mag-like feature in PSU, but its role will be different than what we're used to in PSO.
* Party Size: While the final party size limit is still unknown, Sonic Team does want parties to be larger than in PSO, meaning we will possibly have more than 4 party members in PSU.
* Platform Features: USB keyboards WILL be supported on the PS2, but voice chat is not yet confirmed. Sega is also trying to allow PC and PS2 players the ability to play alongside each other.