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[Messofanego]

Along with other rich famous people in the Church.

Old story from April of 2015 (the recording itself from July 2013; skip to 36min) but still relevant in the discussion about separating the artist from their work. Didn't see another thread for it.

"When Tom Cruise's last movie came out [Oblivion]. It was a terrible movie. But we were going around telling everybody how awesome the movie was. Go see the movie. So Tom Cruise can get paid. And we can get paid."

That’s what a private investigator allegedly working for Scientology leader David Miscavige – billing the church $10,000 per week – told Wisconsin police when they brought the gumshoe in for questioning in July 2013.

“Where do you think the funding comes from?” an investigator asked Florida-based PI Daniel Powell in audio recordings obtained by The Daily News.

“Probably Tom Cruise,” Powell said around the 36-minute mark.

There’s audible laughter on the recording, but it’s no joke.

“I’m being serious,” Powell continued. “That’s probably where it comes from.”

The 21-year-old Powell spoke with West Allis Police after his father, Dwayne S. Powell, was stopped while staking out Miscavige’s 79-year-old father.

Cops discovered two rifles, four handguns, 2,000 rounds of ammunition, a stun gun and homemade silencer on the elder Powell.

“(Tom Cruise) funds the church with anything they need. So he’s pretty much funding all of this,” Powell said of the army of people he alleged the church was spying on.

http://www.nydailynews.com/entertai...h-scientology-pi-tells-cops-article-1.2189801

Personally, I haven't paid to see a Tom Cruise movie since Ghost Protocol. And since watching Going Clear, will continue.

 

[K' Dash]

Oblivion was bad? I never got that memo.

 

[Skellig Gra]

"Probably"

 

[DrArchon]

I always figured this was the case, but I still don't regret going to see Edge of Tomorrow.

 

[Kyoufu]

I'm so conflicted.

I hate Scientology.

But I LOVE Tom Cruise movies.

 

[GavinGT]

So this PI works for Miscavige, but his dad spies on Miscavige's dad?

 

[shortsFortallPeople]

not to defend scientology here but if we dissected how all celebrities went about spending their earnings from films we'd probably find ourselves not really liking any of them

 

[Arkeband]

Oblivion was bad? I never got that memo.

Spoiler

Fuck you, Sally.

I guess it beats "Now stick it back in, it fell out." for last lines in a movie script.

 

[andythinkpad]

Scientology is the necessary evil for Tom Cruise action movies. I have made peace with it.

 

[aku:jiki]

I feel like Tom Cruise isn't that rich, is he? Scientology spends quite a lot of money.

 

[Anoregon]

So this PI works for Miscavige, but his dad spies on Miscavige's dad?

Miscaviage is completely paranoid and views anyone who knows anything about him or the workings of scientology as a threat.

 

[Dragon]

Oblivion was bad? I never got that memo.

It is, and the twist is seen from a mile away. Contrast that with how good Live Die Repeat: Edge of Tomorrow was.

 

[Aiii]

You don't need a PI for this, go read any of the multitude of books on Scientology, like Going Clear or the recent book by Leah Remini if you want to know more about how Scientology works like any other cult and charges it's members for "lessons".

 

[K' Dash]

It is, and the twist is seen from a mile away. Contrast that with how good Live Die Repeat: Edge of Tomorrow was.

I liked both.

 

[Fenderputty]

I liked both.

Same.

 

[David Incorporated Esq.]

Yeah Oblivion isn't that great or smart a movie, but the cinematography and score make it a beautiful watch. I should get the Bluray for it.

 

[Calvero]

Whatever happened to that Scientology shill that used to post here? Or was that a joke account?

 

[LegalEagleMike]

Halo paid to be in the last mission impossible movie, some of that money must have made its way to Tom Cruise...and then to the Scientologists...#huntthetruth.

 

[rakhir]

I liked Oblivion.

Scientology has a lot of money regardless of Tom Cruise - they took money from people and put them in labour camps, didn't pay taxes for decades, and have countless high-valued properties all around the world.

 

[dolemite]

His movies are actually really good, unlike Battlefield Earth.

 

[Tesseract]

absolutely supressive

 

[jerry1594]

Didn't he leave Scientology for his daughter is was that a lie?

 

[CosmicGroinPull]

What about Will Smith?

 

[TheXbox]

I really wish Tom would renounce this cult so he can achieve full Jackie Chan status.

 

[Kyoufu]

What about Will Smith?

Do people watch his movies?

 

[aerts1js]

I love Tom Cruise movies; honestly he's free to follow whatever religion he wants. I honestly think it's a stupid thing for people to get upset over.

 

[injurai]

Didn't he leave Scientology for his daughter is was that a lie?

I think that's just people in denial.

I love Tom Cruise movies; honestly he's free to follow whatever religion he wants. I honestly think it's a stupid thing for people to get upset over.

If stop and think about some of the things Scientology has done to people, then it's not as easy to dismiss.

 

[valkillmore]

Didn't he leave Scientology for his daughter is was that a lie?

I heard that rumour too. Probably did it to boost his image and get people to see his mov . . .


FUCK

 

[Sickboy007]

I love Tom Cruise movies; honestly he's free to follow whatever religion he wants. I honestly think it's a stupid thing for people to get upset over.

Have you watched Going Clear?

 

[Miracle]

Edge of Tomorrow was great so I regret nothing.

 

[frankie_baby]

I love Tom Cruise movies; honestly he's free to follow whatever religion he wants. I honestly think it's a stupid thing for people to get upset over.

Read the post 7 posts above yours, if you still feel the same way then you're a twat

 

[superdeluxe]

If stop and think about some of the things Scientology has done to people, then it's not as easy to dismiss.

We have people blowing up abortion clinics/mosques/killing thousands of innocents every year in the name of religion. And these are accepted religions.

 

[UnemployedVillain]

Fuck it, I'm still watching any new Mission Impossible movies

 

[internetwolf]

I love Cruise more than I hate scientology

 

[anaron]

no shit. it's exactly why I'll never see anything he's in.

 

[JumpJeff84]

We have people blowing up abortion clinics/mosques/killing thousands of innocents every year in the name of religion. And these are accepted religions.

The difference is that those are fringe cases, people that fall on the extreme end of the religion, committing acts that are frowned upon by the vast majority of moderates.

Scientology is not a religion you 'dabble' in. If you're a practicing Scientologist you're all he way in. There's no such thing as a moderate. You're part of the cult and part of the crazy

 

[Red Liquorice]

It's worth it for Eyes Wide Shut.

 

[Nokagi]

Don't think I've ever seen a Tom Cruise movie in the theater. Might have bought a few on DVD though so I guess I'm somewhat guilty.

 

[frankie_baby]

We have people blowing up abortion clinics/mosques/killing thousands of innocents every year in the name of religion. And these are accepted religions.

As much as I'm against religion in general that really is a false equivalency, it's not about what nut jobs do in the name of religion it's about what the religion itself does, if the pope starts signing kids up to 1000 year slave labour contracts then you might have a point

 

[Grym]

I think the last Cruise movie I paid to see was War of the Worlds

 

[NerdEyeBlind]

I'm so conflicted.

I hate Scientology.

But I LOVE Tom Cruise movies.

.

 

[PeskyToaster]

I love Tom Cruise's movies so whatevs.

 

[BertramCooper]

I feel like Tom Cruise isn't that rich, is he? Scientology spends quite a lot of money.

Cruise is worth about a half-billion, from what I remember.

 

[blackjaw]

So was the 21 year old making $10,000 a week, or the 79 year old father?

Thats a lot of money to stalk someone and sleep in your car. Where do I sign up?

 

[injurai]

We have people blowing up abortion clinics/mosques/killing thousands of innocents every year in the name of religion. And these are accepted religions.

First off, it should be clear as day how Scientology is unique in it's obstructions and crimes against society.

Second I do criticize other religions for that which pertains to them.

 

[Tesseract]

First off, it should be clear as day how Scientology is unique in it's obstructions and crimes against society.

Second I do criticize other religions for that which pertains to them.

what are your crimes?!

 

[injurai]

what are your crimes?!

I don't floss.

 

[Griss]

To hell with the haters, Oblivion was good and Tom Cruise is good.

Scientology is bad, but if it's a choice between rampant Scientology or no more Cruise films I'm afraid we'll have to put up with the wackos.

 

[gulfamashraf]

Not this filth again!

 

[Kettch]

Isn't this how all churches make money? I mean, scientology sucks and all, but church member gives money to church seems like a no brainer.