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PS2 ships 90 million worldwide
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Late Stage Marxist
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Here's to another 30 million defective units. 
Late Stage Marxist
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Just setting the bar low.sly said:Here's to more stupid posts.
SolidSnakex
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Reilly said:
It's going to do 100m easily. In the first quarter of 2001 PSone shipments were at 85.4m. It's now over 100m shipped, just to give you an idea of how much the PS2 is outpacing the PSone.
When you see shipping #'s like these... and realize the fanbase and brand loyalty that Sony has built up... you really get a better perspective of the uphill battle competitors face next gen.... the competitors do have their ducks in a row better than the starts of the 2 previous gens... but it's still an uphill battle
That would be the case.. if it WAS reality... which it isn't..
Society said:
That would be the case.. if it WAS reality... which it isn't..
I wonder how many units are second purchases. Kinda like the GBA line has so many second purchases (and probably more in the future).
About 5% of the PS2s I take back at work won't read CDs anymore. And a LOT of people have traded in their PS2s for the PSTwo. Hell, we have more used PS2s than we have used Gamecubes.
About 5% of the PS2s I take back at work won't read CDs anymore. And a LOT of people have traded in their PS2s for the PSTwo. Hell, we have more used PS2s than we have used Gamecubes.
sonycowboy
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I wrote this just over a month ago, when Sony announced their fiscal year results and they're already ahead of the schedule I had for them.
They've shipped another 2.5M units this quarter (which isn't over for almost another month). They're going to fly by 100M by the end of this CALENDER year, easily, IMO.
And in less than 6 years :O
130M units shipped is a lock, IMO. For reference, the PSOne sold 30M AFTER the PS2 launched and we've still got another year before the PS3 launches. And they should have passed the PSOne shipments by the end of thier fiscal year (March 31st).
And the PSOne went to $99 in 1999 and they had only shipped ~60M at that point. Essentially, another 45M after the $99 price point.
The numbers, IMO, are mind boggling.
sonycowboy said:
I wrote this just over a month ago, when Sony announced their fiscal year results and they're already ahead of the schedule I had for them.
They've shipped another 2.5M units this quarter (which isn't over for almost another month). They're going to fly by 100M by the end of this CALENDER year, easily, IMO.
And in less than 6 years :O
130M units shipped is a lock, IMO. For reference, the PSOne sold 30M AFTER the PS2 launched and we've still got another year before the PS3 launches. And they should have passed the PSOne shipments by the end of thier fiscal year (March 31st).
And the PSOne went to $99 in 1999 and they had only shipped ~60M at that point. Essentially, another 45M after the $99 price point.
The numbers, IMO, are mind boggling.
The only problem with that is the assumption that EVERYONE that buys a Sony Console has some sort of loyality to the Playstation Brand. Casual's don't think like that. They see the system with the most amount of games on the shelf, and the one they've heard about, maybe its the one their friends have, so they buy one.
Its like buying a dvd player to them, they don't give a shit if its a 'Cyberhome' a 'Daewoo' or a 'Sony'. I know for a fact my sister bought her boyfriend one because of the dvd factor. As this gen goes on into the next, the 'gamers' will make up less and less of the market and the 'casuals' are a lot less finnicky about branding or loyalty.
Vark said:
I'd agree, except that this isn't the first generation that Sony has sold a console in such large #'s.
You can dissect it like that if you want... but the reality is that within those millions upon millions of consoles sold last generation..and this generation, there are folks who will defer to the PS3 first.
To simply brush aside two generations of sales... with a "causals don't care"... is not wise IMO.
And anecdotal I know this person did this doesn't mean a whole helluva lot considering the size of the userbase.
sonycowboy
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I just looked at the PSOne shipment numbers again. Sony had only sold ~40M Playstations before they dropped the price to $129, a price point they still haven't reached yet.
So, if we extrapolate the remaining sales based on similar points in the price point adoption, we get:
Playstation = 40M units / 102.5M units shipped at $149 price point or above = 39% of units
Playstation 2 = 90 M units / ??? shipped at $149 price point or above.
If we assume the 39% number (and we're not going to get the $129 or $99 price point for a while
), then we get a projected PS2 worldwide shipment number of ...
230M PS2's
Methinks the PS2 is going to be healthy for some time :lol
So, if we extrapolate the remaining sales based on similar points in the price point adoption, we get:
Playstation = 40M units / 102.5M units shipped at $149 price point or above = 39% of units
Playstation 2 = 90 M units / ??? shipped at $149 price point or above.
If we assume the 39% number (and we're not going to get the $129 or $99 price point for a while
), then we get a projected PS2 worldwide shipment number of ...230M PS2's
Methinks the PS2 is going to be healthy for some time :lol
SolidSnakex
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Chrono said:
where is this avatar from and what is she doing!? :lol
It's a show where she's performing comedy shorts based on Japanese phrases with another girl.
DarienA said:
Yep, at the moment Sony has the top 2 best selling consoles of all time. With the PS2 looking to overtake the PSone pretty soon. In both generations they'll have beaten their closest competitor by over 50m units.
sonycowboy
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SolidSnakex said:
Sony has already sold more consoles than Nintendo by a pretty wide margin.
For a total of ~160M Nintendo units vs ~190M playstation units.
Funny question - does MS have enough XBox's manufactured to outsell the PSOne redesign in the end, or has this been a generation when one company had the top two selling consoles?
Granted, GCN could still outsell PSOne also, but it has a longer way to go then the Box.
sonycowboy
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Fafalada said:
Neither will come close. Not even within sniffing distance. And the PSOne only launched 1 year before the Xbox & GCN.
I may soon be an owner of another PS2...I'm getting disc read errors. Sometimes games will take their sweet ass time while loading, and a couple times when I've been watching DVDs I've gotten "Cannot read Disc" messages.
Before I buy a new one I'm going to try to clean up the drive. Is dust usually the problem here, or just crapped out DVD drives?
Before I buy a new one I'm going to try to clean up the drive. Is dust usually the problem here, or just crapped out DVD drives?
DarienA said:
Of course, my point is more that its just as unwise to assume things are as cut and dry as some people here would like to make it. The Casual market is finnicky as hell.
This upcoming generation is going to be completely different, Sony has an actual direct competitor that wants the same space they're in. If MS plays their cards right (which remains to be seen) Sony could be in serious trouble.
Vark said:
Europe is a Sony stronghold... I think MS will have more trouble there than they will in the US... the US looks like it'll be the easiest place to compete in... and Japan.... I just don't know... everyone talks about the Mistwalker and Square deals... but I honestly can't tell what the Japanese are going to think about it all... I haven't seen indications either way.
Again, any sign of PSP figures? I'd really like to see how much was shipped in the past 3 months. :/
PS2's looking like it'll definitely sail to 120M now, which is insane. I think GBA has a good shot at beating PS1/one though with the new Micro introduction and iQue (who's GBA sales aren't counted with Nintendo's fwiw) expanding into South America and possibly India.
PS2's looking like it'll definitely sail to 120M now, which is insane. I think GBA has a good shot at beating PS1/one though with the new Micro introduction and iQue (who's GBA sales aren't counted with Nintendo's fwiw) expanding into South America and possibly India.
SolidSnakex
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Yep, Sony's dominance in Europe is similar to what they have in Japan. As of the start of the year there was a 24m unit gap between the PS2 and Xbox there.
sonycowboy
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jarrod said:
Sony just released this one because of the 90M milestone. I don't think we'll see another PSP shipment number until end of July for Sony's earnings announcement.
jarrod said:
I'm considering 135M to be a lock, personally, with 140M quite possible and 150M being the dream. Any comments?
jarrod said:
What's the GBA at now? We'll have to see how the Micro is accepted. The screen is so darn small, but then again, people are sure that mobile gaming is going to take off and that's about the size of those screens.
Oh. Makes sense.sonycowboy said:
Yeah, I forget that PS2 is still at $149... 140M seems possible even considering that. The only problem might possibly be production, though offloading PSP might help that. Think they'll forgo $129 and drop directly to $99?sonycowboy said:
GBA is ~68M iirc, with Nintendo expecting ~78M by next March (these figures don't include iQue at all). I think Micro's going to be a huge hit, though not so much with 'gamers' as much as everyone else. The screen's smaller, but it's also denser (hiding pixels) and is backlit, it's said to have stunning visibility. The customizable faceplates are a good idea too, something I'd like to see all handhelds move towards.sonycowboy said:
SP finally moving to $49 could really open up sales as well, Nintendo's been much better at keeping GBA at premium pricing with all the revisions than they did GB/GBC. Nintendo's got a lot of room to go down in terms of GBA pricing, which will really be what drives sales in 2006+.
sonycowboy
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jarrod said:
If I were them, I wouldn't. Why bypass the $129 price point?
a) It's selling as well as it EVER HAS @$149.
b) It's not going to hurt the 360's sales in any way as the buyers are completely different
c) you're just giving away profit that you're desperatetly going to need in the next several years.
d) They want the platform to last 10 years and with the way they've managed the price points so far. 2 years @ 299, 1 year @ 199, 1 year @ 179, 1 year+ @ 149, I just don't see the reason is all of a sudden dropping to $99 based on their history so far.
The fly in the soup is what Microsof does with the Xbox. Sell another 5M units or so? Drop the price to $99. Sony might have to react to what they do. And if I were Microsoft and I knew I only had 2M more units left, why not drop it to $99. It's not going to make any significant difference to the bottom line and it'll force Sony's hand.
Wax Free Vanilla
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When it hits $99 or lower this year, hot damn! It'll continue to outsell everything until the Playstation 3 juggernaut arrives to receive the 'sales' baton.
midnightguy
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and PS2 retails for $149 still, correct? pretty impressive for ~5 years on the market.
Flakster99
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Those Japan numbers are atrocious. How many PS1 systems were sold in Japan throughout it's lifetime?
sonycowboy
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Flakster99 said:
21.5M PSOne's total vs 21M PS2's at half the time frame. Not quite so atrocious comparatively, now is it?
Of course, Japan being ~half the size of the other regions has been true for some time. Many just refuse to acknowlege it.