foolishoptimist
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Late last year Sony released their PSVR headset which has been in the making for years. At around the same time, they released PS4 firmware update 4.0, announcing that ALL PS4s now support HDR output(for games that are updated to support it). But anyone with a HDR capable TV who bought the PSVR instantly found a problem.
Problem: PSVR PU(breakout box) does not pass through HDR. It can handle 4K@60fps(w/ compressed color), but it does not support HDR! It seems Sony just skimped on this hardware. As a result, during HDMI handshake, the PU forces the PS4 down to HDMI v1.4, regardless of what your TV supports. HDMI 2.0 is required for HDR support, and also for Full uncompressed color(4:4:4) at 60fps. But it may not be such as trivial hardware change given the issues encountered trying to find a solution.
Of course, this isn't necessarily a huge problem for everyone as HDR software support is pretty thin at the moment(currently 15 titles + some media apps). While Pro Enhancements are required - HDR support is not a requirement and there are some notable Pro Enhanced games that lack it. Quite a few 4K TVs were sold before HDR standards were introduced - and so lack any support at all. Also, HDR standards are still new with inconsistent implementations across recent TV models, not to mention that HDR modes will typically introduce additional lag to a game, so it may or may not be worth solving depending on your TV and gaming preferences.
But support, both software and hardware, is improving all the time.
Anyone with a PS4Pro and 4KTV and PSVR however are losing color information(only compressed color(4:2:0) is supported at 4K@60 on HDMI 1.4) system wide.
Via the Official PSVR FAQ page Sony offered this:
A number of solutions have been tried across the initial 'problem discovery' thread and the official PSVR thread, with varying degrees of success. With new batches of hardware being released, there's new rounds of people questioning whether there's a solution.
IMPORTANT NOTE: Make sure you have good quality HDMI cables! And try to keep them, as short as possible for your setup. There are several reports of reports of solutions below not working, or causing image noise/sparkles, but it seems that cable quality plays a big part in the success of the following. For my part - I bought pretty cheap but short cables and haven't had issues, YMMV.
The Coupler:
This is one of the cheapest and technologically easiest solution that's being used.
Using female-to-female HDMI adapters to create additional, easier dis/connection points than getting behind your TV/PS4.
This requires extra HDMI cables
Extension Cables
Like the Coupler solution, requires manually dis/connecting cables, but saves the ports on your TV & PS4 from wear.
HDMI Splitter/Switch:
In practice it's not so simple. There are loads of splitters/switches out there not rated for 4K@60hz w/ HDR.
Switches:
Splitters:
I'm currently using this model. As with Stike above, I need to disconnect power to the PU and the HDMI handshake allows HDR. In my setup this is much easier than messing with any HDMI cables as I have a power board with individual switches.
Both the Splitter and Switch solutions above require the use of 2 HDMI ports on your TV/Receiver. There was a reddit post of someone using 2 of the Sewell Ibis Bi-Directional switches above, to split/recombine the HDMI connection. But I haven't seen confirmation of this actually working. and given the cabling issues inherent with introducing a switch, I'm not sure it would work without issue.
I will add further models if people report other successes.
Problem: PSVR PU(breakout box) does not pass through HDR. It can handle 4K@60fps(w/ compressed color), but it does not support HDR! It seems Sony just skimped on this hardware. As a result, during HDMI handshake, the PU forces the PS4 down to HDMI v1.4, regardless of what your TV supports. HDMI 2.0 is required for HDR support, and also for Full uncompressed color(4:4:4) at 60fps. But it may not be such as trivial hardware change given the issues encountered trying to find a solution.
Of course, this isn't necessarily a huge problem for everyone as HDR software support is pretty thin at the moment(currently 15 titles + some media apps). While Pro Enhancements are required - HDR support is not a requirement and there are some notable Pro Enhanced games that lack it. Quite a few 4K TVs were sold before HDR standards were introduced - and so lack any support at all. Also, HDR standards are still new with inconsistent implementations across recent TV models, not to mention that HDR modes will typically introduce additional lag to a game, so it may or may not be worth solving depending on your TV and gaming preferences.
But support, both software and hardware, is improving all the time.
Anyone with a PS4Pro and 4KTV and PSVR however are losing color information(only compressed color(4:2:0) is supported at 4K@60 on HDMI 1.4) system wide.
Via the Official PSVR FAQ page Sony offered this:
ie. You have to unplug the HDMI cable going to the PU, and connect it directly to your TV. Depending on your setup, this may be easy, difficult or impossible and may eventually lead to damaged ports on one of these expensive devices.If you have a HDR capable TV and want to view PS4 content in HDR, it is necessary to cable the PS4 directly to the TV.
A number of solutions have been tried across the initial 'problem discovery' thread and the official PSVR thread, with varying degrees of success. With new batches of hardware being released, there's new rounds of people questioning whether there's a solution.
IMPORTANT NOTE: Make sure you have good quality HDMI cables! And try to keep them, as short as possible for your setup. There are several reports of reports of solutions below not working, or causing image noise/sparkles, but it seems that cable quality plays a big part in the success of the following. For my part - I bought pretty cheap but short cables and haven't had issues, YMMV.
The Coupler:
This is one of the cheapest and technologically easiest solution that's being used.
Using female-to-female HDMI adapters to create additional, easier dis/connection points than getting behind your TV/PS4.
This requires extra HDMI cables
As far as I can tell, this person is still disconnecting directly from the PU, but additional couplers could alleviate that.
Extension Cables
Like the Coupler solution, requires manually dis/connecting cables, but saves the ports on your TV & PS4 from wear.
Just wanted to add my solution. I brought two male to female hdmi extensions cables.
The green HDMI is connected in my PS4 Pro and when I want to play PSVR I just connect the green HDMI to the left HDMI like you see on the photo.
HDMI extension right on photo is PS4 Pro and is plugged in HDMI 1 in the television.
HDMI extension left on photo is PSVR and is plugged in HDMI 2 in the television.
HDMI Splitter/Switch:
The idea here is simple, split the HDMI signal out of the PS4 in two, one cable going direct to your TV, the other going to the PU.Cable Hookup.
In practice it's not so simple. There are loads of splitters/switches out there not rated for 4K@60hz w/ HDR.
Switches:
I avoided this model due to conflicting information online. The offical Sewell website says it can do 4K@60, but on Amazon/Ebay I've seen explicit mention of 4K@30 only - and "May not work with PS4 PRO at 4k with HDR". If I bought this, I'd buy direct from Sewell direct.
To reiterate, this is the switch I purchased from Amazon, thanks to Ghost Lynx. Here's my full review:
The build quality on this switch is quite nice. It's built out of a very sturdy metal that is textured. It has a bit of weight to it, for being so small. In addition, the button has a good travel and click to it. The HDMI input/output ports are quite tight. More like snug. It took a bit more effort to plug in a cable than a normal HDMI port. This left me with confidence that the cables aren't going anywhere!
My only complaint is that it does not have any mounting holes in it. It is a solid box. I had to double up a zip-tie and wrap it around the box to mount it.
Last night I did some testing with Deus Ex: Mankind Divided. There's definitely going to be some option juggling if going from an HDR game to a non-HDR game (and back). As I mentioned above, the settings for HDR do need to be mucked with after switching. The odd thing about Deus Ex, however, was that it let me keep the HDR option on in the Video menu. I had to flick it on and off, depending on which source it was going to. However, the switch's main purpose, for me, is getting the HDTV back to HDR after playing a PS VR
I still feel the box is worth the money. It absolutely makes switching from the HDTV to the PS VR seamless, without worrying about wear-and-tear on the ports or having to constantly squeeze into a tight spot behind the media center.
For reference, here is my PS4 HDMI chain:
PlayStation 4 > Switch >
- Pioneer SC-95 AVR > Vizio P65-C1
- PS VR Breakout Box > Vizio P65-C1
In my experience, good quality cables are a must when introducing the switch into the HDMI chain between the PS VR unit and the Pro (although it's quoted below, testing on the Pro was successful with the below configuration).
Splitters:
Okay, here is my temp solution until something else comes along:
I added an HDMI splitter to my setup (one input, two output)
Setup as follows:
PS4 ---
...........|
...........IN_Splitter-OUT--------------TV HDMI 1
................................|
........................PSVR Box---------TV HDMI 2
................................|
............................PSVR
The drawback of this solution is that PSVR will disable HDR as discussed earlier in this thread, because the splitter "downgrades" the signal to the lowest common denominator.
HOWEVER, this happens only for as long as the PSVR box has power!
So if you just unplug the AC adapter of the PSVR box, or disable it in any other way, you can get your HDR signal on TV HDMI 1.
If you want to play VR, plug in the AC adapter (or flip a power switch if you install one) and go to TV HDMI 2, and it is good to go.
You have to plug/unplug something, and this solution takes 2 ports on your TV, but it works, for now.
Sure. I went all the way and made a full explanation picture. Hope this helps.
I'm currently using this model. As with Stike above, I need to disconnect power to the PU and the HDMI handshake allows HDR. In my setup this is much easier than messing with any HDMI cables as I have a power board with individual switches.
One issue I and another person found with this splitter was that after turning on the PU, the PS4 didn't recognise that the PSVR was connected. This is fixed by power cycling the splitter itself. I haven't seen similar issues reported with the splitter Stike uses.
Both the Splitter and Switch solutions above require the use of 2 HDMI ports on your TV/Receiver. There was a reddit post of someone using 2 of the Sewell Ibis Bi-Directional switches above, to split/recombine the HDMI connection. But I haven't seen confirmation of this actually working. and given the cabling issues inherent with introducing a switch, I'm not sure it would work without issue.
I will add further models if people report other successes.