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[TehGoomba7s]

You can just not buy it. You don't even have to pay attention to it. Just continue on a PS5.

 

[sainraja]

PS5 Pro, 2TB, at 699$ on one hand, Series X, 2TB, at 599$ on the other. Series X comes with a disc drive, PS5 Pro doesn't.

PS5 Pro is currently marketed as a 4k, 60fps, RT machine, twice as powerful as a base PS5.

Reading the first pages of this Thread, as well as the results of the "Sony can screw itself" option in this poll, left me wondering.. can "high end console gaming" ever be a thing?

Or should every machine within the Console realm be imperatively as affordable as possible to the masses?
Should the option of playing current generation games at 60fps with high resolution and pristine IQ, along with higher settings, remain an unattainable dream for every kind of individual willing to purchase a console, if it traslates into $699?

GAF, please help me understand.

Wait.. so the XSX releasing this holiday 2024 is also a mid-gen upgrade for Xbox like the PS5 Pro? How did I miss that?

 

[dorkimoe]

Look no further than this forum. There is a segment of gamers who will pay anything for sony and thinks sony can do no wrong. Supporting this greed is dooming the future of gaming.

Also calling people poor or saying the disc drive is dated anyway is just insane, chill out with that. Everyone has different reasons for the way they do things, just because you play digital doesnt mean everyone else does

 

[DryvBy]

This is the age of inflation and limited parts. My video card cost more than the entire PS5 Pro with the drive.

 

[Omnipunctual Godot]

The age of Sony is done

lol, I thought it might draw comparisons, but this is honestly how I feel after being pretty excited about a new Pro console.

 

[RoboFu]

I hope so if we get ps3 level of output and creativity next gen when they fall behind.

 

[MarkMe2525]

Wait.. so the XSX releasing this holiday 2024 is also a mid-gen upgrade for Xbox like the PS5 Pro? How did I miss that?

Because it's not an upgrade beyond higher capacity SSD. It's an overpriced special edition.

 

[cireza]

Post-Concord Sony.

 

[HogIsland]

Arrogant Sony was ambitious Sony. PS3 was wildly expensive, but also loaded with future tech. Also PS first party teams brought the heat.

This isn't arrogant Sony. It's chintzy, penny-pinching Sony.

 

[Mownoc]

What is this thread about already ?

A 2TB PS5 Pro being $100 more than a 2TB Series X. It's not hard to grasp.

 

[Xyphie]

It's a overpriced special edition. Not any different from the inevitable overpriced 30th anniversary PS5 in PSX colors coming this holiday season.

 

[ap_puff]

This really isn't about arrogance. This is about the CFO of Sony, who was their interrim CEO earlier this year. He wants margin above everything so they can juice the stock price of Sony corp. If people paid attention to what was being said in the past few quarterly financials, you knew this was coming. Sony is done taking a loss on hardware.

 

[Dural]

Yeah, it's not twice as powerful...

 

[Banjo64]

You can just not buy it. You don't even have to pay attention to it. Just continue on a PS5.

No thank you. Their greed has permeated every facet. Controllers up $10 this week alone.

 

[Zathalus]

It’s almost $900 in Europe with no disc drive. Of course they are.

 

[sainraja]

So people wanted a Pro console, they just didn't want to pay for one?
I think we are having the wrong conversation here.

Is the PS5 Pro a good mid-gen upgrade or is it not? If not, then it doesn't matter what price they ask.

 

[cireza]

A 2TB PS5 Pro being $100 more than a 2TB Series X. It's not hard to grasp.

Except you don't have to pay 600$ to get a Series X. Eventually, you will understand.

 

[SweetTooth]

Your major mistake was putting Series X vs PS5 PRO

PRO is more capable machine and the price reflect that.

Compare Series X vs PS5 and it will be more appropriate since they are around same level powerwise.

 

[Ebrietas]

Some of you guys are going to lose your minds when the Switch 2 price is revealed.

 

[Mownoc]

Except you don't have to pay 600$ to get a Series X. Eventually, you will understand.

No but you do to have 2TB. Eventually you will understand.

 

[Omnipunctual Godot]

You can just not buy it. You don't even have to pay attention to it. Just continue on a PS5.

This is my current plan. Do you think it means I shouldn't call it out as a shit value proposition for some reason?

 

[Esppiral]

This thread laks a poll, to answer your question, yes.

 

[sainraja]

Because it's not an upgrade beyond higher capacity SSD. It's an overpriced special edition.

That is what I thought it was, but everyone seems to be comparing it with the PS5 Pro, suggesting that they are equally comparable? Am I missing something here?

 

[LaughingStock]

Just posted the same thing in another thread. It feels like PS3 era Sony.

 

[cireza]

No but you do to have 2TB. Eventually you will understand.

They should have made PS5 Pro 10 TB.

 

[Represent.]

Price is a non-issue for me, its a premium console. The amount of hours of entertainment my PS has given me, I can justify the one time high price.

The issue is they announce ZERO new games or gave any incentive to buy it. They just expect you to buy it. No need to reveal or even hint at any new games.

 

[analog_future]

Some of you guys are going to lose your minds when the Switch 2 price is revealed.

It ain’t gonna be $699, I can promise you that.

 

[Sw0pDiller]

Is Microsoft arrogant also for releasing the Xbox series x 2tb for 599? You get a whole Lot power more for that extra 100 dollar with a ps5 pro of you ask me. A steam deck oled 1tb is a whopping 680 euro. And that thing is underpowered.

 

[SweetTooth]

Yes, and you will forced to buy their consoles soon/s

 

[adamsapple]

Twice as powerful?

 

[Dorfdad]

I really feel that the selling point for this is PS4 backward Boosts. All the new game stuff will look marginally better but up to 46% increase not given and not al games will max that 46% that's theoretical uplift screams PS6 discover console. Will I buy one? YES but I don't think a lot of people need to buy this unless you're an enthusiast. I don't see mom and pops buying this for Johnny. This price point also allows them to keep PS5 at current levels.

 

[arkhamguy123]

“Return”? Where did arrogant Sony go? They’ve been in place since the PS3 barley edged out the 360 in the end of the gen and they made that insane comeback from last place to first place

 

[Omnipunctual Godot]

This thread laks a poll, to answer your question, yes.

Great point.

 

[Danjin44]

You can just not buy it. You don't even have to pay attention to it. Just continue on a PS5.

Oh I won’t but I also fear they gonna pull the same shit with PS6 and sell disc drive separately.

 

[Ebrietas]

It ain’t gonna be $699, I can promise you that.

No but it sure isn't going to be $299 either.

 

[ToadMan]

Well, the Apollo computers cost $200,000 (not adjusted for inflation!).

So, by your logic a PS5 pro should be like $10 billion.

Which is a facile way of saying, you cannot compare obsolete technology - PS5, xbox series x or s - with a newly designed and specced system, and the cost to produce and sell that system today.

 

[SweetTooth]

Is Microsoft arrogant top for releasing the Xbox series x 2tb for 599? You get a whole Lot power more for that extra 100 dollar with a ps5 pro? A steam deck oled 1tb is a whopping 680 euro.

Shhhh.. its only bad when Sony does it !

 

[ComputerBlue]

So people wanted a Pro console, just didn't want to pay for one?
I think we are having the wrong conversations here.

Is the PS5 Pro a good mid-gen upgrade or is it not? If not, then it doesn't matter what price they ask.

I think the price is too high, but even if it’s fair you have to pay extra for a disc drive and something as simple as a vertical stand. This is Sony taking liberties with its loyal fan base.

 

[Kagoshima_Luke]

Sony need strong competition or else this happens. As MSFT weakens, Sony fills the void with increased arrogance.

 

[Trekinspace88]

No this is the age of inflation. I fully expect the Nintendo Switch 2 to be at least 350 to 400 and the next Xbox to be at least 600-700 as well as the PS6.

 

[Omnipunctual Godot]

“Return”? Where did arrogant Sony go? They’ve been in place since the PS3 barley edged out the 360 in the end of the gen and they made that insane comeback from last place to first place

They were seriously humbled after the PS3 hack. After Jack Tretton apologized, they really did seem to pivot.

 

[Kacho]

I don’t think so. They’re at the mercy of consumer expectations and the economy. They need to change their strategy IMO. Where they’re headed is a dead end.

 

[dorkimoe]

This is the age of inflation and limited parts. My video card cost more than the entire PS5 Pro with the drive.

your video card gives you access to literally millions of games. Your ps5 pro gives you access to what? a couple hundred.
Enough comparing consoles to PC's they arent the same and never will be.

 

[rodrigolfp]

Is not this 2024 and inflation?

 

[Vick]

Except that you can buy Series X new at 500$€, even less.

Your picture is for the 2TB Galaxy limited edition.

And?

It's still a Series X being sold by Microsoft, and no, you can't buy a 2TB Series X for $500.

Sounds like a challenge.

Eh, question wasn't really for someone like you, let's just say:

Tune in tomorrow for a PlayStation 5 Technical Presentation hosted by Mark Cerny

I hope I soon get to a point in my life where I don’t need to day-1 every new console. That time has not yet arrived. Honestly I think it gets worse. At 47 I have much more disposable income and now the kids are growing up and have more things to do without Dad.

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Twice as powerful???

 

[Luipadre]

Its a sony without competition. A dogshit one at that

 

[Wandering Leopard]

Its an optional mid-gen upgrade.

I question people who claim "the return of arrogant Sony", I don't think they were around at the start of that era. But oh well, a lot of people like to overreact.

 

[LavitzSlambert]

This? No. The major push to live service games, the ridiculous prices PS5 accessories and PS5 Slim were. This is continuing a trend that was already set in motion by Jimbo and his cronies.

 

[Null Persp]

This is greedy sony that doesn't have competition.

 

[Hudo]

I am sorry, but 800€ for a fucking console is ridiculous. And If you want to buy a disc drive for it, it's an extra 120€. So like 920€ in total. There's no argument that makes this price point reasonable.