PSP launch back-lash

xsarien said:
Hey, so, uh, just wondering. How long does it take this bad boy to charge? Wipeout's kinda pining to me. :P

Just play it with the adapter....
 
AlphaSnake said:
Just play it with the adapter....

Yup.

Don't be afraid of sapping what little pre-charge you have. You won't go dry as long as you plug it in. Also, you're able to select the fourth and brightest setting with the AC. Don't pop your PSP cherry any other way.
 
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You haven't held a PSP, have you?

I swear, all of you people with your "backlash" just need to hold one. Then I can listen to your opinion.
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Yeah I did, and it wasn't till then that I kinda changed my mind. Or at least delayed the impulse buy thing that was gonna happen. Still not safe though, going to EB later to return a game and gotta escape without the damn thing :p

Cuz it IS still just a portable. Looks awesome, but it still is nothing I haven't already seen game wise...it's just now console looking stuff on a portable, that still wasnt as good as a lot of console stuff. It didn't do anything really to change my portable gaming experience. Again, if devs started making games that had interchangeable games saves with PS2 stuff or there was some killer app not available anywhere but on PSP, I could justify the purchase right away.

I love the added the media capabilities, but I'll probably stick to my ipod for music. And I probably wont be in a rush to buy an expensive memory stick considering games are 50 bucks or so, and the price itself is already inflated 50 bucks (with lack of a barebones PSP value pack for $199). And the one movie I was considering buying UMD might be 30 bucks (!) according to the info in the official launch thread.

Then again, I sorta work in the game industry so everyone around me will have one, so I might give in later if everyone is playing wireless multiplayer. Cuz that's gotta be cool
 
I think I may actually get a PSP once the GTA game comes out for it. By then I figure they'll have a decent library of games and I can use GameFly for it.
 
I bought one at BlockBuster last night. They had a pretty good trade in going on so I wound up buying the unit along with Ridge Racers for a total of 175 dollars after I had built store credit there.

A friend and I took turns playing till 4 this morning. Jesus its a nice piece of hardware,and that screen is amazing everytime I look at it. The one thing that does sort of worry me is the analog though. I use it allot for RidgeRaer and I'm abit worried it may wear out over time. I dunno,it feels comfortable,maybe too much,like its too loose for its own good. The D pad also works good but I'm a sucker for that analog more than anything.

And I advise everyone to read their manuals. I had a very short battery span because I never read up about sleep mode. Every time I tuned the unit back on it continued from where I had paused and put the unit to sleep. Now that I know how to properly power down the battery last longer.

Haven't even tried moving multi media over tto the PSP yet,thats for another time. I'll probably rent a few games throughout the week inbetween playing RidgeRacer.

Nice unit overall. It definately raises the bar for handheld gaming.

Btw-how's the multi player when searching for a player to race again in RidgeRacer? By that I mean how many feet can a person be when it searches for players in your area?
I know a neighbor was speaking about grabbing a PSP and RidgeRacer and we both don't have wireless networks for out PCs. If we were both outside doing a search for a game,whats the general distance you would have to be in to have a game? I'm guessing it probably limited,does anyone know?
 
Shit, there's a tons of PSP @ Best Buy! Funny enough, they don't have nearly enough games. More hardware than software! :lol I feel sorry for those guys that got multiple PSP for ebay purposes. They might lose money on this deal.

I think Sony way over-estimated the demand for the thing in the States. I guess we just are not as gadget crazy as in Japan (and the added cost didn't help things). Something tells me that the European launch is gonna be moved up a tad. ;)
 
The money isn't the issue. I carry my laptop with me pretty much everywhere. Doom 3 and Half-Life 2 and World of Warcraft vs Lumines or Twisted Metal Black or Ridge Racers. C'mon, in my position, it's easy to call. DS gets got with a new Zelda
 
Shogmaster said:
Shit, there's a tons of PSP @ Best Buy! Funny enough, they don't have nearly enough games. More hardware than software! :lol I feel sorry for those guys that got multiple PSP for ebay purposes. They might lose money on this deal.

I think Sony way over-estimated the demand for the thing in the States. I guess we just are not as gadget crazy as in Japan (and the added cost didn't help things). Something tells me that the European launch is gonna be moved up a tad. ;)

They should have launched with 500k units here and used the other 500k in Japan where demand is still quite high.
 
is there a date for CMR or WRC yet?

i defin itely want a psp, but i'm trying to hold out till it either drops in price, or there is more that i want to buy for it then just ridge racer and lumines...
 
Tabris said:
Don't count out next day sales.

I swear once people see other people with the psp, they'll want to pick it up.

I think your wrong. I expect PSP to sell very well for the first 6 months or so. After that we will see. It looks incredible and initially you would say it's cheap as crap for the features, but in reality without at least a 1g stick you can't expect to watch your own movies/home movies w/ audio.. and even then that's limiting.

So, it's at minimum a $500 system for limited storage space. (assuming you want games + Video/movies + music)

A pretty good deal considering the screen, but it's a lot of money for the average person. If I travelled all the time I would instantly buy one.
 
I commute and hour and a half each way at least three days a week. However, I'm behind teh wheel of a car driving during that time - hence my lack of need for a portable gaming system (even then I think I'd rather read or something more productive if I had a train commute).

However, I never really expected huge crowds today - for all the fuss on the internet the mass awareness of the device is pretty nill, and combine that with the fact that there are no kiosks available for people to try the thing out on and you have apathy towards spending $300 for something they know little about and can't experience first-hand. I could only laugh when Sony said they thought they'd sell 1 million of the units in a few days - you'd think they'd know the amount of advertising they've done after all.
 
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PSP's languish forlornly this afternoon at a Target in San Dimas, CA. Pic courtesy of Error Macro at OA.
 
Teddman said:
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PSP's languish forlornly this afternoon at a Target in San Dimas, CA. Pic courtesy of Error Macro at OA.

Looks to me like they've almost sold half in less than a day. Not bad. Only crazy people thought Sony could sell through 1M units in 4 hours. It's not going to hit 1M units in 10 days, but it's going to probably do ~3/4 of that.

NPD should be VERY interesting. From what I've heard, EBGames got 90,000 units specifically for pre-orders and those should all sell out. A little more for Gamestop. It'll be interesting to see how much more demand there is AFTER the preorder quantities are fulfilled.
 
Just for comparison's sake, what did the NDS move in its first month? Though I suspect it was shipment-bound at less than 1M...
 
I still don't understand paying $300 for a portable who's software lineup is ports of PS2 games most people already have. And the extra features seem tainted by Sony's use of UMD and ugh Memory Sticks. I just don't get it. Can someone explain whats great about paying hundreds of dollars so you can then rebuy the same games you just played last year? On a smaller screen as well.

I am serious, someone must be able to explain this because something like that would normally be beaten to death by the GAF horde. It seems to be accepted right now, so I want to know the kicker to the whole deal which makes it so.
 
etiolate said:
I still don't understand paying $300 for a portable who's software lineup is ports of PS2 games most people already have.


MAKE IT STOP MAKE IT STOP

I'd kill for a PS2 version of Ridge Racers or Wipeout Pure. If you can tell me where to get the original PS2 versions the PS2 ones were ported from I'd appreciate it.
 
ManaByte said:
MAKE IT STOP MAKE IT STOP

I'd kill for a PS2 version of Ridge Racers or Wipeout Pure. If you can tell me where to get the original PS2 versions the PS2 ones were ported from I'd appreciate it.


Or Lumines or Metal Gear Ac!d

Some games are like the console versions, but I guess it is more acceptable to have a portable version of a console game when it is inferior in every aspect.
 
I should have said the same games, but some are ports. Dynasty Warriors is DW3 isn't it? THUG? It's not like Ridge Racers or ATV change much. So I leave the question out there.
 
etiolate said:
I should have said the same games, but some are ports. Dynasty Warriors is DW3 isn't it? THUG? It's not like Ridge Racers or ATV change much. So I leave the question out there.

DW is DW3? News to me... I didn't realize this particular bodyguard system was in DW3....
 
I too was very tempted to pick up a PSP at launch but once I thought twice about it, I realized I just don't have the time to play right now. I've got lots of books/magazines to read during my commute and, besides, the prices on the unit itself and games are steep at the moment. I'm sure I'll pick on up down the road, but for now, I'll sit this one out.
 
Tabris said:
I think he means in comparison to the GBC
A GBC was only $20 less ($69.99) when GBA launched. That's the thing about the Game Boy line, they start out cheap. They're not like consoles that eventually depreciate $200 to reach new consumers, they're mass market from day one.


Teddman said:
Just for comparison's sake, what did the NDS move in its first month? Though I suspect it was shipment-bound at less than 1M...
About 450k iirc, basically what Nintendo shipped. Pretty much like every major hardware launch demad far exceeded supply, PSP will be the first launch I can think of that didn't sell out immediately (though it's also the first to have a million ready day one).
 
jarrod said:
A GBC was only $20 less ($69.99) when GBA launched. That's the thing about the Game Boy line, they start out cheap. They're not like consoles that eventually depreciate $200 to reach new consumers, they're mass market from day one.
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The iPod was $500 when it launched. If the product is good, people will buy it, and the PSP is GOOD.
 
I would just like to say that I have held a PSP (Pre launch, guy brought it in to our Game Design Class about 3 weeks ago, so I guess it's the Japanese one) and even though I don't plan to buy it for that much, I would like to say to those people who think that the screen couldn't look as good as your A/V component TV, hell, I don't care ifyou have S Video... That screen is something truly only the God's could have concieved. Seriously, it almost looks like it's a plasma screen, or at least HD-TV.

That said, I don't have the money (Well, I do, but I shouldn't spend it) for it now. Will consider it once I have more money and the price drops.
 
shantyman said:
The iPod was $500 when it launched. If the product is good, people will buy it, and the PSP is GOOD.
I'm not saying anything about that, or PSP actually. I'm just saying nobody had "sticker shock" at GBA launch. I had to plow through Soccer moms to get mine at Target back in 2001, it was a madhouse.
 
etiolate said:
I still don't understand paying $300 for a portable who's software lineup is ports of PS2 games most people already have. And the extra features seem tainted by Sony's use of UMD and ugh Memory Sticks. I just don't get it. Can someone explain whats great about paying hundreds of dollars so you can then rebuy the same games you just played last year? On a smaller screen as well.

I am serious, someone must be able to explain this because something like that would normally be beaten to death by the GAF horde. It seems to be accepted right now, so I want to know the kicker to the whole deal which makes it so.


I bought 3 games, none of which are available anywhere else. There are more original games than I bought.
 
My only beef is yes, the games are expensive. I have pledged to never pay more than $40 for a game. Hopefully a metal gear solid remake for the PSP never comes out at $50. :)
 
Well my PSP is really good, and I don't have any dead pixels or scratches. I have 2 questions that I hope someone can answer:

1. Is there anyway to turn the volume up more than it initially allows? I tried watching Spider-Man 2, but even on the highest setting I could barely hear it.

2. Is there a way to change the background color?
 
Soulbrighter said:
If there are so many units, why in the hell Amazon is selling the value pack at 399$ and it's 3rd on the top sellers chart?


People do some stupid shit on teh internet. Ever seen idiots pay over retail prices for used shit on ebay? Happens all the fucking time, and this is same kind of shit.
 
etiolate said:
I should have said the same games, but some are ports. Dynasty Warriors is DW3 isn't it? THUG? It's not like Ridge Racers or ATV change much. So I leave the question out there.

DW for PSP is an entirely different game. Uses a similar engine for the fights but the overarching gameplay is wayyyy different.
 
VALIS said:
I love new tech, especially new video game tech, but I've been able to resist the PSP and DS rather easily. Most importantly, I have no use for a handheld. Don't go to school, don't take mass transportation... where am I gonna play it, the bathroom? If I'm home, I'd much rather play console games on the couch, looking at a nice TV and stereo sound.

The $50 per game is an enormous turn off. I don't care if it's the strongest handheld gaming device in history, I don't think most console games are worth $50, and they want that money for games that aren't even as robust as the 5+ year old PS2 technology allows? Most decisions DO come down to money. At $25 or $30 per game, I probably have a PSP right now, even though I have little use for handhelds. At $50, I'm not interested at all.

Handhelds are often a vast sea of crap. For every good game, there are 10 uninspired ports from the big brother consoles. Will the PSP be different? We'll see, but so far it looks par for the course, even if I am itching to try the Twisted Metal game.

Finally, another huge reason is there are tons and tons of good current gen console games out there for under $20. Between the Xbox, PS2 and GC I have over 550 games, and there are plenty more I'd like to buy. Personally, I'd much rather stumble onto a Beyond Good and Evil for $15, or a Dynasty Warriors 2 for $5, or a Ribbit King for $10 than fork out $50 for a handheld game. But this is just my preference. The PSP is definitely ineteresting, it's just not for me right now. I'll probably check in in a few years once there's a good used market for the games and the system is <$150.


I'm basically in the same boat as you VALIS. The only place that I can think of to play a PSP or any handheld is when I'm bored at a friend or family's house. Hmm, now that I think about it, a handheld would come in handy during staff meetings at work. :lol
 
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