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Recommend some *bad* graphic novels
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BAAAALLLINNN'
Batman: Dark Knight Strikes Again.
It's horrendous.
Some people actually recommend it. Don't listen to Matlock, it is a terrible book.
It's horrendous.
Some people actually recommend it. Don't listen to Matlock, it is a terrible book.
Duck of Death
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Is Batman: The Dark Night Strikes Again the sequel to The Dark Night Returns?
If so, that is indeed one bad graphic novel. Awful, awful stuff.
If so, that is indeed one bad graphic novel. Awful, awful stuff.
evil solrac v3.0
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FoneBone said:
YOU BETTER KEEP RUNNNING!! AND DONT LET ME SEE YOUR FACE ROUND HERE AGAIN!!!
evil solrac v3.0
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yeah, 100 bullets used to be so good. but now it just lost steam. i still liked what azzarello did in hellblazer though....
I'd be hesitant to call anything mentioned so far truly bad, although they might not be to the taste of others.
If you want bad, you need to be looking at something like The Kents(Western nonsense featuring ancestors of Supermans parents) or JLA - League of One(Wonder Woman fights trolls and a dragon. Or something). Both of which are unreadably bad, and available from Fopp anywhere for about a pound.
If you want bad, you need to be looking at something like The Kents(Western nonsense featuring ancestors of Supermans parents) or JLA - League of One(Wonder Woman fights trolls and a dragon. Or something). Both of which are unreadably bad, and available from Fopp anywhere for about a pound.
spikydavid
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Spawn.
All of Spawn.
Except maybe for the "Angela" mini-series.
And probably only that because it helped to bankrupt McFarlane.
Any Robocop graphic novel.
The Kingdom (the sequel to Kingdom Come, which was excellent).
The Prisoner: Shattered Visage
Superman versus the Terminator
Apache Skies
Age of Amalgam comics
Most of the Elektra series, especially Ultimate Daredevil and Elektra, which should have actually been called "We want to cash in on the Daredevil movie before everyone realises how shit it is"
Spider-Man and the New Mutants fight Juggernaut and Black Tom (don't know what the name of this one was, I don't even know if it really had one. Art by Rob Liefield, writing by channelling the spirits of the damned)
Ghost Rider: The Hammer Lane
Cable (the most recent one, where he turns into an anti-globalisation protestor)
Rahne of Terror (a sort of "Elseworlds" thing with wolverine and rahne as a princess)
Just a Pilgrim. Actually, come to that, pretty much everything that Garth Ennis has ever written apart from Preacher
Strange Killings. Actually, come to that, pretty much everything that Warren Ellis has ever written apart from Transmetropolitan and Planetary
Brian Azzarello's "work" on Hellblazer.
Banner. Come to that, pretty much every other Hulk book.
She-Hulk: Single Green Female
The second half of the "Books of Magic" series, when they realised that they had written so many stupid plot twists into the first three books that they no longer had a viable series to write, so just wrote the word "shit" forty-three times and submitted that as the script for every issue.
Cable and the New Mutants - Mmm, Rob Liefield really can't draw, and being married to Walt Simonson shouldn't be enough to get you a writer credit
Deadline - Cos comics about people working for the Bugle are bound to be good, yeah?
The Essential Iron Man - Oh dear lord, no
Distant Soil - I can't even remember who recommended this. But it's terrible.
I have others, but I think we're starting to get a little obscure here (Skeleton Key). Suffice to say, there's a lot of shit out there.
All of Spawn.
Except maybe for the "Angela" mini-series.
And probably only that because it helped to bankrupt McFarlane.
Any Robocop graphic novel.
The Kingdom (the sequel to Kingdom Come, which was excellent).
The Prisoner: Shattered Visage
Superman versus the Terminator
Apache Skies
Age of Amalgam comics
Most of the Elektra series, especially Ultimate Daredevil and Elektra, which should have actually been called "We want to cash in on the Daredevil movie before everyone realises how shit it is"
Spider-Man and the New Mutants fight Juggernaut and Black Tom (don't know what the name of this one was, I don't even know if it really had one. Art by Rob Liefield, writing by channelling the spirits of the damned)
Ghost Rider: The Hammer Lane
Cable (the most recent one, where he turns into an anti-globalisation protestor)
Rahne of Terror (a sort of "Elseworlds" thing with wolverine and rahne as a princess)
Just a Pilgrim. Actually, come to that, pretty much everything that Garth Ennis has ever written apart from Preacher
Strange Killings. Actually, come to that, pretty much everything that Warren Ellis has ever written apart from Transmetropolitan and Planetary
Brian Azzarello's "work" on Hellblazer.
Banner. Come to that, pretty much every other Hulk book.
She-Hulk: Single Green Female
The second half of the "Books of Magic" series, when they realised that they had written so many stupid plot twists into the first three books that they no longer had a viable series to write, so just wrote the word "shit" forty-three times and submitted that as the script for every issue.
Cable and the New Mutants - Mmm, Rob Liefield really can't draw, and being married to Walt Simonson shouldn't be enough to get you a writer credit
Deadline - Cos comics about people working for the Bugle are bound to be good, yeah?
The Essential Iron Man - Oh dear lord, no
Distant Soil - I can't even remember who recommended this. But it's terrible.
I have others, but I think we're starting to get a little obscure here (Skeleton Key). Suffice to say, there's a lot of shit out there.
spikydavid
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8bit said:
Whilst mostly I'd agree with you about the taste thing, DK2 is just horrible. I think Frank Miller wrote it as a kind of masochistic "so, what exactly do you think I can get away with here" piss take.
The Dark Knight Returns is a classic. DK2 is like fondling six year olds.
BlackClouds
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I'm sorry, but comics, like manga, anime, and foreign movies, you just cannot trust anybody's opinions. Either you have people who seem to like everything, and thus are worthless, or jaded ones, and you're not supposed to listen to anybody overly jaded to begin with.
I'll name a few anyways though.
All of Spawn (with the exception of the Alan Moore written, issue #37)
Angela Miniseries (a book about nothing, with dialog that is cringe worthy)
Queen and Country (Rucka fucking sucks, his books are about nothing at all).
And the worst of all. King, by Ho Che Anderson. Probably the worst artwork and art storytelling I have ever seen (including Liefield). The book claims to be the real story of MLK, but it only is a collection of the most obscene rumors. I guess if you want to read how he loves to eat food, and be a pimp daddy reverend, without showing at the very least the vast amount of intelligence he had, this is your book. If I didn't know better, it reads like anti MLK propaganda. From a couple of interviews, it is obvious that this hack just wanted to do a "serious" comic to pad his resume. Stay as far away from this Graphic Novel as you can. This is the one book that made me want to strangle the writer to death after reading it. If you need a good MLK story, watch the movie Boycott.
I'll name a few anyways though.
All of Spawn (with the exception of the Alan Moore written, issue #37)
Angela Miniseries (a book about nothing, with dialog that is cringe worthy)
Queen and Country (Rucka fucking sucks, his books are about nothing at all).
And the worst of all. King, by Ho Che Anderson. Probably the worst artwork and art storytelling I have ever seen (including Liefield). The book claims to be the real story of MLK, but it only is a collection of the most obscene rumors. I guess if you want to read how he loves to eat food, and be a pimp daddy reverend, without showing at the very least the vast amount of intelligence he had, this is your book. If I didn't know better, it reads like anti MLK propaganda. From a couple of interviews, it is obvious that this hack just wanted to do a "serious" comic to pad his resume. Stay as far away from this Graphic Novel as you can. This is the one book that made me want to strangle the writer to death after reading it. If you need a good MLK story, watch the movie Boycott.
Couldn't have said it better. I liked the colors..otherwise...ugh. Frank needs an editor or something, stat.spikydavid said:
Dunno about real 'bad' graphic novels, I try pretty hard to avoid the crud. Last thing I read that really dissapointed me was probably 30 Days of Night. Lots of hype, but I found it to be a pretty shallow read. Sure is popular, though.
Doc Holliday
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Hah i actually liked DKSA.
As a (the?) resident Iron Fan, I'd like to go into more detail on Essential #1. Reading it now, it was very stupid and yes, racist to have the Vietnamese soldiers speak broken english to each other but that's just how ignorant America was back then. Ok, maybe after that origin story, my expectations on Stan Lee's writing were really low but I ended up enjoying the book. The stories were simple but entertaining and did well in humanizing an extremely rich genius, who's life should be perfect, by letting you see him struggle to go recharge his chest plate and how that keeps him from the girl he loves.
spikydavid
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Dram said:
Good lord yes. How could I forget this? I too had high hopes of what seemed like an interesting idea, and it was just terrible.
Actual badness - 7/10
Wasted Potential -a full 10/10
spikydavid
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Hmm, good point, that I had forgotten about. Very well, everything Ellis has done, except Transmet, Planetary and Global Frequency.iapetus said:
Also, Switchblade wotsit isn't bad as such, just not terribly good.
iapetus said:
Not very much, no. I also have The Many Armours of Iron Man, but that isn't too bad.
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