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[Thick Thighs Save Lives]

Xbox has no immediate plans to shutter Redfall developer Arkane, after the studio's latest launch failed to find much of a positive critical or commercial reception.

Speaking to Axios, Xbox Game Studios chief Matt Booty said Arkane would remain open. "That is the plan right now," he said.

"They are hard at work on updates and continued content for Redfall," Booty continued, saying he wanted to "support them to be able to keep working to deliver the game they had in mind".

Earlier this week, at a post-Xbox Game Showcase media event in Los Angeles attended by Eurogamer, Booty notably skipped over Redfall when suggesting Microsoft had "turned the corner" on first-party game releases.

"We had some gaps last year, but I think we've turned the corner coming into 2023," Booty said on Sunday. " feel very good about launching Hi-Fi Rush, we have Minecraft Legends out there which is doing well, we have Age of Empires continuing to come to console... and then as we saw today, this fall we have Forza Motorsport and Starfield."

So, how is Redfall doing now?

"It was a miss, but how much of a miss?" Booty concluded, adding it gets "good play" on Xbox Game Pass.

More at: https://www.eurogamer.net/redfall-developer-arkane-currently-safe-microsoft-says

 

[kyussman]

"That is the plan right now"........that's quite the vote of confidence,lol.

 

[Ronin_7]

Currently...

 

[winjer]

Considering most of the original members have left the studio, this is no longer Arkane. It's just a shadow of it's former self.
If we take into consideration the crap they made recently, then this Arkane might be a delayed corpse.

 

[GHG]

So, how is Redfall doing now?

"It was a miss, but how much of a miss?" Booty concluded, adding it gets "good play" on Xbox Game Pass.

People have no standards, confirmed.

Not that we didn't already know.

 

[cormack12]

Also known as

 

[lh032]

"right now "

Matt booty :

 

[Saber]

So, how is Redfall doing now?

"It was a miss, but how much of a miss?" Booty concluded, adding it gets "good play" on Xbox Game Pass.

This sentence is more stupid than the whole safe stuff. Its like its ok to be a broken garbage mess as long its for GP.

The game can be saved, but only if they have the same dedication as No Man Sky for istance...but I got feeling it won't be the case.

 

[feynoob]

Keep them safe. Dishonored needs them.

 

[ratburger]

"This death row inmate is fine, we haven't scheduled an execution date yet."

 

[Banjo64]

"It was a miss, but how much of a miss?" Booty concluded, adding it gets "good play" on Xbox Game Pass.


More at: https://www.eurogamer.net/redfall-developer-arkane-currently-safe-microsoft-says

If you had any respect for your fans or reputation you’d consider it one of the biggest misses by a first party studio of all time you bloody idiot.

 

[graywolf323]

I think people sometimes forget just how many studios Xbox has killed over the years…

I really hope Arkane gets back to what they’re great at because Dishonored was one of my favorite new IPs of the 360/PS3 gen

 

[Godot25]

Thanks God.
I would be sad if Zenimax chase for GAAS money would kill this studio outright.
Let them cook next immersive sim masterpiece.

 

[Pelta88]

So, how is Redfall doing now?

"It was a miss, but how much of a miss?" Booty concluded, adding it gets "good play" on Xbox Game Pass.

 

[Dick Jones]

OP needs to put in a poll to see who believes Arkane Austin will be shuttered on 18 September 2023.

 

[Three]

The game can be saved, but only if they have the same dedication as No Man Sky for istance...but I got feeling it won't be the case.

I bet it quietly doesn't even get the 60fps mode they said was coming later.

 

[Banjo64]

I would argue that it's not more than their competitors

bUT wHAt AbOuT PLAysTatiOn!?

 

[SF Kosmo]

Doesn't inspire a lot of confidence. I think Arkane is super talented but it also seems like a shake up is needed and Harvey Smith wasn't taking enough ownership of the vision

 

[baphomet]

Shut it down

and not just the Austin branch. Shut it all down.

 

[Thick Thighs Save Lives]

OP needs to put in a poll to see who believes Arkane Austin will be shuttered on 18 September 2023.

Hell nah! Arkane Austin is one of my favorite studios and I only wish them the best!

 

[VolticArchangel]

Kill this trash named Redfall, with fire, and give them back fully funded AAA sequels to Dishonored 2 (post Death of the Outsider) and Prey.

Why the fuck would you fix a studio, that isn't broken, in the first place? It's like asking Platinum Games to make a live service GaaS, and you get Babylon's Fall. You can't make this shit up.

A studio like Arkane Austin being shut down by MS, would be of a bigger L than the PapEA meme. It would be an absolute shame.

 

[Bernkastel]

I would argue that it's not more than their competitors

they hate him for saying the truth.
Update: Also this triggers drganon .

whoever is left there, anyway

Didn't half the building leave?

since most of the staff is gone.

In 2021, there were 150 across both Austin and Lyon. And now, its like 280. Even if we take Jason's word that now there are 100 people in Austin, it still means that studio grew from 2021 to 2023. "Only 100 people are left at Austin" sounds like most of the staff left, but they actually grew.

Arkane Studios | LinkedIn

Arkane Studios | 147,877 followers on LinkedIn. Arkane is seeking talented individuals to join our teams in Lyon (FR), currently working on Marvel's Blade. | Founded in 1999, Arkane® Studios has grown to become one of the most renowned and critically acclaimed development teams in the video...

www.linkedin.com

Currently 281 employees divided among Austin and Lyon.

Last I checked
In 2021

150 people in Arkane are divided among Lyon studio(Dishonored, Deathloop) and Austin Studio(Prey, new upcoming fantasy project).

In 2022

Arkane - ~200

Jason has a vendetta against this studio, when he writes shit like

and convincing some progressive or moderate video game developers to move to Texas could be difficult due to the state’s conservative social policies.

in that article.

 

[Dr.Morris79]

Considering most of the original members have left the studio

I really hope Arkane gets back to what they’re great at

 

[Gudji]

I've seen this movie before.

 

[Godot25]

Microsoft is not stupid (I hope). Outside of fact that thanks to Arkane Austin they have studio in one of the greatest location for game development on Earth.
Also, Arkane Austin has 16 new openings and without a hint of people leaving in droves after Redfall. So I guess that they are already starting brainstorming on their next project and Roundhouse will take care of Redfall's post-launch support.
At the absolute worst (but it would be still bad) I can imagine Zenimax "ordering" that Lyon and Austin will work on their next project together like with first Dishonored.

 

[Flabagast]

That sounds MUCH more ominous for the future of the studio than if they had not say anything.

Arkane should have sold themselves to Sony. Wrong move

 

[ReBurn]

bUT wHAt AbOuT PLAysTatiOn!?

Yeah, people shouldn't be able to make comparisons about the aftermath of other bad launches to bring context to a discussion. It's not fair to talk about how any other studio has been shut down by any other company after a rough launch.

It's definitely not fair to bring up how Shawn Layden said of Evolution Studios: "I prefer people to have the ambition to try that, though. It's no fun being safe all the time." in an IGN interview after the rough launch of DriveClub only for Sony to ultimately close the studio after working hard to turn the game around. There's definitely no similarity there.

 

[drganon]

they hate him for saying the truth.
Update: Also this triggers drganon .

 

[GHG]

Yeah, people shouldn't be able to make comparisons about the aftermath of other bad launches to bring context to a discussion. It's not fair to talk about how any other studio has been shut down by any other company after a rough launch.

It's definitely not fair to bring up how Shawn Layden said of Evolution Studios: "I prefer people to have the ambition to try that, though. It's no fun being safe all the time." in an IGN interview after the rough launch of DriveClub only for Sony to ultimately close the studio after working hard to turn the game around. There's definitely no similarity there.

If that's what you need to do to cope then have at it.

Still nothing to do with the topic at hand though.

 

[feynoob]

If you had any respect for your fans or reputation you’d consider it one of the biggest misses by a first party studio of all time you bloody idiot.

That guy is weird.
I don't know how long he lasted on that job.

 

[ReBurn]

If that's what you need to do to cope then have at it.

Still nothing to do with the topic at hand though.

The topic at hand? Xbox game has a rough launch and someone at Microsoft says the studio is safe for now. People respond that they don't believe it because of what often happens in this situation. Someone responded with mockery when someone else mentions it happens with competitors, not even mentioning any specific one. So I provide an example of how the competitor they feel the need to protect has actually done it.

That's not cope, that's context. EA and Activision have also closed studios when games didn't go so well.

The cope was the huge meme shitpost, not my valid example of how this situation is not unique to Redfall. Companies often kill studios for bad games regardless of what public support they may show directly after launch. Instead of being dismissive show how it's wrong.

 

[Banjo64]

Yeah, people shouldn't be able to make comparisons about the aftermath of other bad launches to bring context to a discussion. It's not fair to talk about how any other studio has been shut down by any other company after a rough launch.

It's definitely not fair to bring up how Shawn Layden said of Evolution Studios: "I prefer people to have the ambition to try that, though. It's no fun being safe all the time." in an IGN interview after the rough launch of DriveClub only for Sony to ultimately close the studio after working hard to turn the game around. There's definitely no similarity there.

bUT wHAt AbOuT PLAysTatiOn!?

 

[oji-san]

Wish Arkane the best as i love their games and hope that one not good game won't do too harm.

 

[HL3.exe]

Hope they're given another stab at doing a proper Immersive Sim like Prey (2017).

This pivoting to live service clearly backfired for Zenimax. Now under MS they hopefully have the room to develop something the leads real like and are well versed in (System Shock, Deus Ex, Thief, Dishonored, etc)

Edit: My hope for Redfall actually, is that they rework what they have, just like CDPR is doing now with Cyberpunk. If you have the assets in play, just re-edited the thing, re-evaluate every system and mechanic and reboot the launch. (As stupid as this industry is run sometimes)

 

[Robb]

The majority of their stuff is fantastic. Would be strange if the studio was in danger cause of one dud.

 

[GHG]

The topic at hand? Xbox game has a rough launch and someone at Microsoft says the studio is safe for now. People respond that they don't believe it because of what often happens in this situation. Someone responded with mockery when someone else mentions it happens with competitors, not even mentioning any specific one. So I provide an example of how the competitor they feel the need to protect has actually done it.

That's not cope, that's context. EA and Activision have also closed studios when games didn't go so well.

The cope was the huge meme shitpost, not my valid example of how this situation is not unique to Redfall. Companies often kill studios for bad games regardless of what public support they may show directly after launch. Instead of being dismissive show how it's wrong.

Justifying SonyToo™ : the post

 

[samoilaaa]

Also known as

no , they need to abandon it and make dishonored 3 or prey 2

 

[Dick Jones]

Hell nah! Arkane Austin is one of my favorite studios and I only wish them the best!

Apart from Redfall, the back catalogue is fantastic. Hopefully a one off

 

[M1chl]

currenlty

 

[Tommi84]

Xbox has no immediate plans to shutter Redfall developer Arkane, after the studio's latest launch failed to find much of a positive critical or commercial reception.

The company will be shut down at a later stage then

 

[ZehDon]

Fingers crossed Arkane delivers next time, then. Not every studio gets a second chance after such a monstrous failure - hopefully they don't squander it.

 

[Luigi Mario]

Also, Arkane Austin has 16 new openings and without a hint of people leaving in droves after Redfall.

Because most of them already left during development.

 

[SEGAvangelist]

That sounds MUCH more ominous for the future of the studio than if they had not say anything.

Arkane should have sold themselves to Sony. Wrong move

Jim would have shut down the Austin studio before the game could release.

 

[DeepEnigma]

People have no standards, confirmed.

Not that we didn't already know.

Notice crickets about it selling.

 

[SJRB]

70% of the teams that made this studio legendary already left anyway, so how much of a loss would axing Arkane really be at this point?

 

[fermcr]

They should hire some talent and make Dishonered 3, single player with a good story and gameplay.

 

[Big Baller]

Too close to the

 

[adamsapple]

Arkane can redeem themselves with Prey 2.

 

[Puscifer]

"That is the plan right now"........that's quite the vote of confidence,lol.

I mean I thought the idea of Gamepass was eliminating the risk of game failures and keeping studios open to experiment? Guess sus subscriber numbers and a recession is changing that tone, seems bleak.

 

[mdkirby]

Close them, don’t close them, I’m now indifferent to it (except it being sad when people lose jobs). There’s nothing left of what made arkane arkane it seems. Best we can hope is that the people that made them great carry that legacy with them to the new studios they go to or form. Weird west was interesting…I’d have preferred a first person immersive sim and it’s shame about the lack of voice acting (which resulted in me dropping it)…I’m interested in whatever they do next