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Remember the snobby Harvard guy in Good Will Hunting? That happened last night.

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Well, sorta.

So for those of you who don't know me that well, I recently finished grad school and work part time as a bouncer at a local bar to help pay bills while I search for a job. I usually work "college night" on Thursdays, so named because they serve $1 drafts and it's loaded with all of the local college students (Kenmore area in Boston). This being a spring break week, it was relatively quiet, until around 1245 AM when one of the bartenders calls me over to babysit a patron.

This guy, around 21-22 yo, ran up a $200 tab during the course of the evening (I too wondered how this could happen on dollar draft night, but it made sense later), and when trying to close out, his card was rejected. I was told to make sure he didn't run while the bartender allowed him to use our ATM to "transfer around some funds" to pay the bill. Another bouncer and I walk him to the ATM and hang back just a bit in case he tries to run. He dicks around at the ATM a bit, then starts calling/texting on his phone. I assume he's contacting his parents, some friends, or his bank. His friends (1 guy and 2 girls) come over periodically and try to ask him what's wrong, he tells them to fuck off. So after stalling for 15 minutes, he asks if he can get the card he has behind the bar back, so he can get money off of that card.

The bartender takes his watch as collateral.

We go through the song and dance at the ATM again, and it's pretty clear he's not getting any cash. The whole time, the dude is belligerent and pissy anytime a bar worker or one of his friends asks him if he needs any assistance. He even flips off one of the bouncers. So at this point, we're resolved to simply wait until everyone clears out, and call the cops on him for trying to stiff the bar. He once again demands to go back to the bar, claiming that he's got the money in his account now, and demanding loudly that he wants his "$1200" watch back.

The bartender spends about 20 minutes running his card, to no avail. The whole time, I'm mouthing to my coworker "Please don't run, please don't run, please don't run" because I don't feel like tackling and beating his skinny ass.

At this point, his friends step in. The two girls in his group offer to split his tab. They pay it (and leave about a $2 tip). It's about 5 minutes to closing (2 AM), it seems like everything was actually resolved non-violently and no one had to get in any real trouble. BUT WAIT. Mr. Big Spender's ego won't let it go. So when he gets outside, he has a few choice words for the door guy (we'll call him "Chuck"), something along the lines of "Do you know who I am? Do you know what I have in my wallet?" to which Chuck responds, "No, but I know what I have in my wallet *opens wallet* money, because I'm not a broke piece of shit." This gets a laugh out of everyone outside.

Mr. Big Spender starts screaming and swearing as his female friend drags him down the block (the classic "hold me back!" move for people who don't really want to fight). Of course, he doesn't actually leave - he seethes at the end of the block for a bit, then walks back our way and hangs back leaning on a tree not too far from our entrance. Doesn't say anything, but once in a while punches the tree in blind rage. He tells his female friend to go the fuck home.

He's on his phone for a while as we clear the street in front of the bar. I figure he's calling a goon squad to come brawl with us. Nope. After everyone leaves, and it's just Chuck and I outside the bar, he walks back over to start some shit. Now I'm 6'4" and built pretty solid. Chuck is 6 ft and about 300 lbs of experienced ass-kicking. This guy was maybe 5'10" and 160 lbs soaking wet. But he doesn't want to fight, he wants a war of words. He gets right up in Chuck's face (Chuck jokes, "What, do you want to kiss me?") and starts ranting about how he's an undergrad at the prestigious Boston University, and how DARE we give him shit about being broke when he pays $50,000/yr in tuition, will make more money than everyone in the bar when he graduates, and then we'll all be serving him fries. He asks Chuck, who's older (40's), whether he went to bouncing college and if he's happy making such shit money at this stage in his life. Chuck breaks it down to him like this:

- You don't pay shit, your parents do
- I have a job, but even at this bar job I make more money than you
- Your parents paid $50,000 a year in tuition and you can't even balance a check book
- Even if you get a degree, I'm a better human being than you'll ever be

After getting clowned on again, the kid finally starts to leave, but not before promising that he'll be back next week. At this point, I step in and say, "Dude, you're never getting in this bar ever again in your life, who do you think you're kidding?" He's all "You'll see, you'll see, I'll be back next week, you fucking POS bouncers don't know anything." I say "Fuck you and fuck your safety school, I went to BC and I have my PhD you dumb son of a bitch."

And with that, we close the door as he wandered off in a huff. I honestly can't believe that people like this exist outside of movies. He was like the villain from an 80s college comedy. I have friends who've gone to just about every top ranked school in the country, and I can't think of a single one who has berated the waitstaff at an establishment using their degree as a shield for their dickery. And BU? Really? You're going to name drop a top 90 school to prove that you're better than someone? The guy was trying so hard to maintain this baller persona that he bought all kinds of ridiculously expensive drinks for his friends on a night known for cheap drinks, refused financial assistance from his friends for over an hour, and bragged about his watch while being escorted around the bar by two bouncers. Just unbelievable.

TLDR:
- Guy gets flagged for a cancelled transaction on a $200 tab
- Acts like a grumpy jerk while pretending to fix the problem
- Finally breaks down and lets his friends pay his tab
- Gets humiliated outside the bar by the door guy
- Waits for everyone to leave, gives a "I PAY $50,000/YR IN TUITION, YOUR ARGUMENT IS INVALID" speech
- Gets shut down again when door guy mentions he makes more money than him, and I mention that I have a BS and PhD from a better school and call him a dumbfuck


BONUS

Original Scene in question

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Clark: There's no problem. I was just hoping you could give me some insight into the evolution of the market economy in the southern colonies. My contention is that prior to the Revolutionary War the economic modalities, especially of the southern colonies could most aptly be characterized as agrarian pre-capitalist and...

Will: [interrupting] Of course that's your contention. You're a first year grad student. You just got finished some Marxian historian, Pete Garrison prob’ly, you’re gonna be convinced of that until next month when you get to James Lemon, then you’re gonna be talkin’ about how the economies of Virginia and Pennsylvania were entrepreneurial and capitalist way back in 1740. That's gonna last until next year, you’re gonna be in here regurgitating Gordon Wood, talkin’ about you know, the Pre-revolutionary utopia and the capital-forming effects of military mobilization.

Clark: [taken aback] Well, as a matter of fact, I won't, because Wood drastically underestimates the impact of--

Will: ..."Wood drastically underestimates the impact of social distinctions predicated upon wealth, especially inherited wealth..." You got that from Vickers. "Work in Essex County," Page 98, right? Yeah I read that too. Were you gonna plagiarize the whole thing for us- you have any thoughts of- of your own on this matter? Or do- is that your thing, you come into a bar, you read some obscure passage and then you pretend- you pawn it off as your own- your own idea just to impress some girls? Embarrass my friend?
[Clark is stunned]

Will: See the sad thing about a guy like you, is in about 50 years you’re gonna start doin' some thinkin' on your own and you’re gonna come up with the fact that there are two certainties in life. One, don't do that. And two, you dropped a hundred and fifty grand on a fuckin’ education you coulda' got for a dollar fifty in late charges at the Public Library.

Clark: Yeah, but I will have a degree, and you'll be serving my kids fries at a drive-thru on our way to a skiing trip.

Will: [smiles] Yeah, maybe. But at least I won't be unoriginal.
 

Salmonax

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Sounds like a real charmer. Unfortunately people like that often do get ahead simply because they're willing to be the most annoying at every turn and everyone else relents in the interest of not having to deal with them anymore.

Random aside, but does anyone balance a checkbook anymore?
 
Dude's out of his mind. Boston University?

And bragging about how much tuition you pay is pathetic. The best schools give the best aid in my experience.
 

Kave_Man

come in my shame circle
Sounds like a real charmer. Unfortunately people like that often do get ahead simply because they're willing to be the most annoying at every turn and everyone else relents in the interest of not having to deal with them anymore.

Random aside, but does anyone balance a checkbook anymore?

I don't even know what that is to be honest. I've heard the term but by the time I got old enough to actually have funds and what not chequebooks were being switched for debit cards.
 

Chris R

Member
Dollar drafts sounds so good, fuck paying $6 for a pint (tip included)

edit: because that is how much a beer will run you at basically any bar in my town :(
 

sfedai0

Banned
This only works if you somehow got the number from the girl he was with. Then you have to utter the "how bout dem delicious apples" line.
 

ChiTownBuffalo

Either I made up lies about the Boston Bomber or I fell for someone else's crap. Either way, I have absolutely no credibility and you should never pay any attention to anything I say, no matter what the context. Perm me if I claim to be an insider
I was waiting for the shotguns. But then I remembered that was Good Will Hunting 2.

Man, boucning on Thursday nights. I did that in a college town for a couple years. Its worth a lifetime of stories.
 
Sounds like a real charmer. Unfortunately people like that often do get ahead simply because they're willing to be the most annoying at every turn and everyone else relents in the interest of not having to deal with them anymore.

Random aside, but does anyone balance a checkbook anymore?

What the fuck's a checkbook?
 

FairyD

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wtf people actually do this?

Edit: I'm still amazed at tuition fees, 50k/year, that's insane. How can anyone, except rich kids, expect to pay for school if it costs that much.
 
Sounds like a real charmer. Unfortunately people like that often do get ahead simply because they're willing to be the most annoying at every turn and everyone else relents in the interest of not having to deal with them anymore.

Random aside, but does anyone balance a checkbook anymore?

Just an old man saying for people who can't keep track of how much they have in their debit account.

ChiTownBuffalo said:
I was waiting for the shotguns. But then I remembered that was Good Will Hunting 2.

Man, boucning on Thursday nights. I did that in a college town for a couple years. Its worth a lifetime of stories.

I was offered alcohol, drugs, sex, and a bribe the first night I worked at this place. So yeah, I've got tons of stories already.

Dumb question, but was he drunk?

Unless you buy a bottle of champagne at a club, I think $200 is more than enough to get sauced on. But yes, he was tipsy. Not so much that we would have thrown him out, but he was definitely heading down that path.
 

ascii42

Member
I don't even know what that is to be honest. I've heard the term but by the time I got old enough to actually have funds and what not chequebooks were being switched for debit cards.
Basically it's tracking your spending against how much money you started with so you know how much money you have left. The advent of online banking kind of changed how people do this, but the principle is the same.
 

C.Dark.DN

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Sounds like a real charmer. Unfortunately people like that often do get ahead simply because they're willing to be the most annoying at every turn and everyone else relents in the interest of not having to deal with them anymore.

Random aside, but does anyone balance a checkbook anymore?

My dad does.
 

piddledy

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I haven't seen Good Will Hunting in a while, but that scene you've quoted sounds ridiculous. Hollywood's idea of a working-class guy's idea of smart people at bars. "Yup, I'm going to drop some 18th century economic history on you so I can get this pretty lady!"
 
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Jesus. I feel embarrassed just imagining this guy.
 

FreeMufasa

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In such an insecure excuse, when they start saying crap about how 'educated' they are.

Reminds me of that video we had not too long ago with the girl on the subway. She got into an argument with an attendant and every few seconds she'd say "Do you know how educated I am?" "Do you know what schools i've been to?"
 

yacobod

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I haven't seen Good Will Hunting in a while, but that scene you've quoted sounds ridiculous. Hollywood's idea of a working-class guy's idea of smart people at bars. "Yup, I'm going to drop some 18th century economic history on you so I can get this pretty lady!"

ya that exchange would be more likely to occur on a forum on the internet than at a bar.
 

ChiTownBuffalo

Either I made up lies about the Boston Bomber or I fell for someone else's crap. Either way, I have absolutely no credibility and you should never pay any attention to anything I say, no matter what the context. Perm me if I claim to be an insider
I was offered alcohol, drugs, sex, and a bribe the first night I worked at this place. So yeah, I've got tons of stories already.

My favorite one was a 5'8" white girl trying to pass herself off as a 5'3" latina woman, saying that her tan faded and she hit a growth spurt. Then she offered to blow me.

That just made me sad.
 

levious

That throwing stick stunt of yours has boomeranged on us.
congrats on the Phd, you should have them change your username to Dr. Sho_Nuff82
 

p2535748

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In college I had a bunch of friends who were in housing over by BU, and I encountered people like this all the time. For whatever reason, a lot of BU people are obnoxiously proud of their school. They were only bested by the Harvard students.

Edit: The other crazy thing I remember was finding out that BU was, at the time, more expensive than either MIT or Harvard. Seemed nutty to me.
 
I haven't seen Good Will Hunting in a while, but that scene you've quoted sounds ridiculous. Hollywood's idea of a working-class guy's idea of smart people at bars. "Yup, I'm going to drop some 18th century economic history on you so I can get this pretty lady!"

If I remember correctly the guy wanted to humiliate Will's friend (played by Afleck), because he was trying to pass as a grad student who supposedly was in a history class with one of the ladies.

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That was a great read Dr.
 
When I was in New Zealand I saw a guy get literally thrown out of a bar by a bouncer. It was on the second floor so the thrown individual went down the stairs. It was pretty surreal.
 

lethial

Reeeeeeee
Man this story makes me miss bouncing. I used to bounce concerts (worked at the front of the stage in the gang way for crowd surfers and shit) and loved picking people up and throwing them out because they were acting like jackasses. I almost want to get back into it just for the extra money and excitement. I was bouncing a Lynyrd Skynyrd concert and these idiot bikers threw a beer at me so I grabbed one by the the neck and booted him out along with his goof troop friend. They threatened to wait around for me so I said "I look forward to it." They never showed up :(
 

ChiTownBuffalo

Either I made up lies about the Boston Bomber or I fell for someone else's crap. Either way, I have absolutely no credibility and you should never pay any attention to anything I say, no matter what the context. Perm me if I claim to be an insider
I haven't seen Good Will Hunting in a while, but that scene you've quoted sounds ridiculous. Hollywood's idea of a working-class guy's idea of smart people at bars. "Yup, I'm going to drop some 18th century economic history on you so I can get this pretty lady!"

People do that all the time. I see it mostly with younger people either in the last year of school or literally fresh out of college.

I also saw it alot in law school with the K - JD kids.
 

Salmonax

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I don't even know what that is to be honest. I've heard the term but by the time I got old enough to actually have funds and what not chequebooks were being switched for debit cards.

I think it's keeping a record of all the checks you write in that area at the top of a checkbook, and subtracting the total amount from your previous balance to see how much money you currently have in your checking account.

Unless I'm missing some nuance, I don't think it has served any purpose since online banking became ubiquitous.

Just an old man saying for people who can't keep track of how much they have in their debit account.

Yeah, sorry. I didn't mean to derail with minutiae but was genuinely curious as to whether it was common these days.
 

Pollux

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Everyone hating on BU...fuck off. Yea the kid was a douche and there are plenty of them at BU but BU is still a damn good school.

And yea, I went there, so I'm very biased.
 

Stumpokapow

listen to the mad man
Everyone hating on BU...fuck off. Yea the kid was a douche and there are plenty of them at BU but BU is still a damn good school.

And yea, I went there, so I'm very biased.

The OP is one of the ones making fun and he apparently has a PhD from there :p
 
Speaking of that guy, when I was in New Orleans, I met a dude in a bar who looked, to my drunken mind, exactly like the snooty bar guy in Good Will Hunting. When I mentioned it to him he said that that was him. He was clearly humoring me.

In hindsight he looks more like Tim Robbins.

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bengraven

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Kind of reminds me of this time I was at the local bowling alley and we almost had a fight with this douchebag who stole the couches from all the surrounding lanes. It's a fairly nice place, part sports bar, party family restaurant, part bowling alley.

Here's this douchebag with the typical club suit, shirt unbuttoned to show off his chest hair and gold chain, slick black curly hair. He specifically requests the little blonde waitress (U of F girl, big tits and cleavage) be his personal waitress because "I'm gonna be spending a lot of money here tonight and I want HER to be the one to get this big ass tip" (he grins and winks).

He calls in about, literally, two dozen of his friends all dressed in club clothes and they take a lane. He orders 30 shots at a time and a bottle of champagne in ice. He spends half the time doing toasts and the other half on his cell phone. Never stops standing while everyone else sits. Typical host.

So I sit on the couch that belongs to OUR lane, right next to his. "Hey," he says, walking up to me and rubbing his chin, looking one way and the other, "buddy? This is my couch. My friends are in the bathroom freshening up and will be right back."

"Buddy," I say slowly, "I'm here with my family and some kids. Just because you're treating this place like a strip club doesn't mean you're going to bounce me from my seat. Go place Scarface somewhere that isn't a family place."

He starts the "wait, what the fuck did you just say to ME TO MMEEE?" and my brother in law smoothly walks over and sits down next to me. Brother in law isn't a big dude, but he's a smooth, charismatic type. He just sits there. Waits. Waitress comes over and my brother in law orders some wings and asks, "Hey, since this is our couch, can we turn this around to face our lane? Kind of strange that it would be sitting like this." "Sure, sir, no problem". "Thanks."

Tension the rest of the night. I'm teaching my 12 year old niece how to bowl and thinking "please try something...please...".
 

TheSeks

Blinded by the luminous glory that is David Bowie's physical manifestation.
Man this story makes me miss bouncing. I used to bounce concerts (worked at the front of the stage in the gang way for crowd surfers and shit) and loved picking people up and throwing them out because they were acting like jackasses. I almost want to get back into it just for the extra money and excitement. I was bouncing a Lynyrd Skynyrd concert and these idiot bikers threw a beer at me so I grabbed one by the the neck and booted him out along with his goof troop friend. They threatened to wait around for me so I said "I look forward to it." They never showed up :(

Sounds like you should be in the military, personally.
 
Everyone hating on BU...fuck off. Yea the kid was a douche and there are plenty of them at BU but BU is still a damn good school.

And yea, I went there, so I'm very biased.
Sure, it's a decent school. But do you really want to talk that shit when you're right next to Harvard? That seems like it would be ridiculous.
 

p2535748

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Everyone hating on BU...fuck off. Yea the kid was a douche and there are plenty of them at BU but BU is still a damn good school.

And yea, I went there, so I'm very biased.

BU's a good school, I was just saying that there seemed to be a lot of people from there who were overly proud about that fact. Of course, I went to a school with the unofficial motto of "I hate this fucking place", so maybe my view on how one should feel about their college is a little skewed.
 
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