Republicans and Bush team members: "Administration is done for."

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From the right-wing Spectator.

But at this stage of the game, barring some imaginative political moves that bear some resemblance to the Bush Administration circa 2002, Republicans on Capitol Hill and even some longtime Bush team members in various Cabinet level departments say this Administration is done for.

"You run down the list of things we thought we could accomplish and you have to wonder what we thought we were thinking," says a Bush Administration member who joined on in 2001. "You get the impression that we're more than listless. We're sunk."

Too pessimistic? Maybe not. Rumors are flying through various departments of longtime senior Bush loyalists looking to jump, but with few opportunities in the private sector to make the jump look like anything more than desperation [...]

Congressional committee sources on both sides of Capitol Hill predict tough slogging on anything of policy consequence. "Social Security is dead as far as my chairman is concerned. So are the tax cuts," says a Ways and Means staffer of Chairman Bill Thomas.
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Quickest lame duck eva?
 
And John Kerry comes out swinging today, concise as ever(Joke...). But the speech is very good.

Providence, RI - Thank you for your invitation to be here. It’s rare for me to speak at a university like Brown. Usually I don’t speak at a football factory. I want to personally thank those of you who generously lent your efforts to my campaign last year. No one showed more passion than the thousands of students from across the country who knocked on doors, wore out shoes, endured desert heat and arctic cold and probably damaged their GPA's to get out the vote. You did everything, except move to Ohio.

I also want to thank you for what the Brown community has done to help and comfort the many victims of Hurricane Katrina. This horrifying disaster has shown Americans at their best -- and their government at its worst.

And that's what I've come to talk with you about today. The incompetence of Katrina's response is not reserved to a hurricane. There's an enormous gap between Americans' daily expectations and government's daily performance. And the gap is growing between the enduring strength of the American people -- their values, their spirit, their imagination, their ingenuity, and their willingness to serve and sacrifice -- and the shocking weakness of the American government in contending with our country's urgent challenges. On the Gulf Coast during the last two weeks, the depth and breadth of that gap has been exposed for all to see and we have to address it now before it is obscured again by hurricane force spin and deception.

Katrina stripped away any image of competence and exposed to all the true heart and nature of this administration. The truth is that for four and a half years, real life choices have been replaced by ideological agenda, substance replaced by spin, governance second place always to politics. Yes, they can run a good campaign -- I can attest to that -- but America needs more than a campaign. If 12 year-old Boy Scouts can be prepared, Americans have a right to expect the same from their 59 year-old President of the United States.

Katrina reminds us that too often the political contests of our time have been described like football games with color commentary: one team of consultants against another, red states against blue states, Democratic money against Republican money; a contest of height versus hair - sometimes. But the truth is democracy is not a game; we are living precious time each day in a different America than the one we can inhabit if we make different choices.

Today, more than ever, when the path taken last year and four years earlier takes us into a wilderness of missed opportunities -- we need to keep defining the critical choices over and over, offering a direction not taken but still open in the future.

I know the President went on national television last week and accepted responsibility for Washington's poor response to Katrina. That's admirable. And it's a first. As they say, the first step towards recovery is to get out of denial. But don't hold your breath hoping acceptance of responsibility will become a habit for this administration. On the other hand, if they are up to another "accountability moment" they ought to start by admitting one or two of the countless mistakes in conceiving, "selling", planning and executing their war of choice in Iraq.

I obviously don't expect that to happen. And indeed, there's every reason to believe the President finally acted on Katrina and admitted a mistake only because he was held accountable by the press, cornered by events, and compelled by the outrage of the American people, who with their own eyes could see a failure of leadership and its consequences.

Natural and human calamity stripped away the spin machine, creating a rare accountability moment, not just for the Bush administration, but for all of us to take stock of the direction of our country and do what we can to reverse it. That's our job -- to turn this moment from a frenzied expression of guilt into a national reversal of direction. Some try to minimize the moment by labeling it a "blame game" -- but as I’ve said - this is no game and what is at stake is much larger than the incompetent and negligent response to Katrina.

This is about the broader pattern of incompetence and negligence that Katrina exposed, and beyond that, a truly systemic effort to distort and disable the people's government, and devote it to the interests of the privileged and the powerful. It is about the betrayal of trust and abuse of power. And in all the often horrible and sometimes ennobling sights and sounds we've all witnessed over the last two weeks, there's another sound just under the surface: the steady clucking of Administration chickens coming home to roost.

We wouldn't be hearing that sound if the people in Washington running our government had cared to listen in the past.

They didn't listen to the Army Corps of Engineers when they insisted the levees be reinforced.

They didn't listen to the countless experts who warned this exact disaster scenario would happen.

They didn't listen to years of urgent pleading by Louisianans about the consequences of wetlands erosion in the region, which exposed New Orleans and surrounding parishes to ever-greater wind damage and flooding in a hurricane.

They didn't listen when a disaster simulation just last year showed that hundreds of thousands of people would be trapped and have no way to evacuate New Orleans.

They didn't listen to those of us who have long argued that our insane dependence on oil as our principle energy source, and our refusal to invest in more efficient engines, left us one big supply disruption away from skyrocketing gas prices that would ravage family pocketbooks, stall our economy, bankrupt airlines, and leave us even more dependent on foreign countries with deep pockets of petroleum.

They didn't listen when Katrina approached the Gulf and every newspaper in America warned this could be "The Big One" that Louisianans had long dreaded. They didn't even abandon their vacations.

And the rush now to camouflage their misjudgments and inaction with money doesn’t mean they are suddenly listening. It's still politics as usual. The plan they’re designing for the Gulf Coast turns the region into a vast laboratory for right wing ideological experiments. They’re already talking about private school vouchers, abandonment of environmental regulations, abolition of wage standards, subsidies for big industries - and believe it or not yet another big round of tax cuts for the wealthiest among us!

The administration is recycling all their failed policies and shipping them to Louisiana. After four years of ideological excess, these Washington Republicans have a bad hangover -- and they can't think of anything to offer the Gulf Coast but the hair of the dog that bit them.

And amazingly -- or perhaps not given who we’re dealing with -- this massive reconstruction project will be overseen not by a team of experienced city planners or developers, but according to the New York Times, by the Chief of Politics in the White House and Republican Party, none other than Karl Rove -- barring of course that he is indicted for "outing" an undercover CIA intelligence officer.

Katrina is a symbol of all this administration does and doesn't do. Michael Brown -- or Brownie as the President so famously thanked him for doing a heck of a job - Brownie is to Katrina what Paul Bremer is to peace in Iraq; what George Tenet is to slam dunk intelligence; what Paul Wolfowitz is to parades paved with flowers in Baghdad; what Dick Cheney is to visionary energy policy; what Donald Rumsfeld is to basic war planning; what Tom Delay is to ethics; and what George Bush is to “Mission Accomplished” and "Wanted Dead or Alive." The bottom line is simple: The "we'll do whatever it takes" administration doesn't have what it takes to get the job done.

This is the Katrina administration.

It has consistently squandered time, tax dollars, political capital, and even risked American lives on sideshow adventures: A war of choice in Iraq against someone who had nothing to do with 9/11; a full scale presidential assault on Social Security when everyone knows the real crisis is in health care - Medicare and Medicaid. And that's before you get to willful denial on global warming; avoidance on competitiveness; complicity in the loss and refusal of health care to millions.

Americans can and will help compensate for government's incompetence with millions of acts of individual enterprise and charity, as Katrina has shown. But that’s not enough. We must ask tough questions: Will this generosity and compassion last in the absence of strong leadership? Will this Administration only ask for sacrifice in a time of crisis? Has dishonesty in politics degraded our national character to the point that we feel our dues have been paid as citizens with a one-time donation to the Red Cross?

Today, let’s you and I acknowledge what’s really going on in this country. The truth is that this week, as a result of Katrina, many children languishing in shelters are getting vaccinations for the first time. Thousands of adults are seeing a doctor after going without a check-up for years. Illnesses lingering long before Katrina will be treated by a healthcare system that just weeks ago was indifferent, and will soon be indifferent again.

For the rest of the year this nation silently tolerates the injustice of 11 million children and over 30 million adults in desperate need of healthcare. We tolerate a chasm of race and class some would rather pretend does not exist. And ironically, right in the middle of this crisis the Administration quietly admitted that since they took office, six million of our fellow citizens have fallen into poverty. That’s over ten times the evacuated population of New Orleans. Their plight is no less tragic - no less worthy of our compassion and attention. We must demand something simple and humane: healthcare for all those in need - in all years at all times.

This is the real test of Katrina. Will we be satisfied to only do the immediate: care for the victims and rebuild the city? Or will we be inspired to tackle the incompetence that left us so unprepared, and the societal injustice that left so many of the least fortunate waiting and praying on those rooftops?

That’s the unmet challenge we have to face together. Katrina is the background of a new picture we must paint of America. For five years our nation's leaders have painted a picture of America where ignoring the poor has no consequences; no nations are catching up to us; and no pensions are destroyed. Every criticism is rendered unpatriotic. And if you say “War on Terror” enough times, Katrina never happens.

Well, Katrina did happen, and it washed away that coat of paint and revealed the true canvas of America with all its imperfections. Now, we must stop this Administration from again whitewashing the true state of our challenges. We have to paint our own picture - an honest picture with all the optimism we deserve - one that gives people a vision where no one is excluded or ignored. Where leaders are honest about the challenges we face as a nation, and never reserve compassion only for disasters.

Rarely has there been a moment more urgent for Americans to step up and define ourselves again. On the line is a fundamental choice. A choice between a view that says “you’re on your own,” “go it alone,” or “every man for himself.” Or a different view - a different philosophy - a different conviction of governance - a belief that says our great American challenge is one of shared endeavor and shared sacrifice.

Over the next weeks I will address some of these choices in detail - choices about national security, the war in Iraq, making our nation more competitive and committing to energy independence. But it boils down to this. I still believe America’s destiny is to become a living testament to what free human beings can accomplish by acting in unity. That’s easy to dismiss by those who seem to have forgotten we can do more together than just waging war.

But for those who still believe in the great tradition of Americans doing great things together, it’s time we started acting like it. We can never compete with the go-it- alone crowd in appeals to selfishness. We can’t afford to be pale imitations of the other side in playing the ‘what’s in it for me’ game. Instead, it’s time we put our appeals where our hearts are - asking the American people to make our country as strong, prosperous, and big-hearted as we know we can be - every day. It’s time we framed every question - every issue -- not in terms of what’s in it for ‘me,’ but what’s in it for all of us?

And when you ask that simple question - what’s in it for all of us? - the direction not taken in America could not be more clear or compelling.

Instead of allowing a few oil companies to drill their way to windfall profits, it means an America that understands we can’t drill our way to energy independence, we have to invent our way there together.

Instead of making a mockery of the words No Child Left Behind when China and India are graduating tens of thousands more engineers and PhDs than we are, it means an America where college education is affordable and accessible for every child willing to work for it.

Instead of tax cuts for the wealthiest Americans, it means an America that makes smart investments in your future like funding the science and research and development that will assure American technological leadership.

Instead of allowing lobbyists to rewrite our environmental laws, it means an America where lakes and rivers and streams are clean enough that when a family takes the kids fishing, it’s actually safe to eat the fish they catch.

Instead of letting a few ideologues get in the way of progress that can make us a stronger and healthier society, it means an America where the biology students here today will do the groundbreaking stem cell research tomorrow.

And instead of stubbornly disregarding intelligence, using force prematurely and shoving our allies aside, it means an America that restores its leadership in the world. An America that meets its responsibility of creating a world where the plagues of our time and future times - from terror to disease to poverty to weapons of mass destruction to the unknown - are overcome by allies united in common cause, and proud to follow American leadership.

That is the direction not taken but still open to us in the future if we answer that simple question - ‘what’s in it for all of us?’ It comes down to the fact that the job of government is to prepare for your future - not ignore it. It should prepare to solve problems - not create them.

This Administration and the Republicans who control Congress give in to special interests and rob future generations. Real leadership stands up to special interests and sets the course for future generations. And the fact is we do face serious challenges as a nation, and if we don’t address them now, we handicap your future. My generation risks failing its obligation of assuring you inherit a safer, stronger America. To turn this around, the greatest challenges must be the starting point. I hope Katrina gives us the courage to face them and the sense of urgency to beat them.

That’s why the next few months are such a critical time. You’ll read about the Katrina investigations and fact-finding missions. You’ll get constant updates on the progress rebuilding New Orleans and new funding for FEMA. Washington becomes a very efficient town once voters start paying attention.

But we can’t let political maneuvering around the current crisis distract people from the gathering, hidden crises - like energy, environment, poverty, healthcare and innovation - that present the greatest threats to our nation’s competitiveness and character. The effort to rebuild New Orleans cannot obscure the need to also rebuild our country.

So realistically, I’m sure you’re wondering: How do I change all this? What can I do? The answer is simple: you have to make your issues the voting issues of this nation. You’re not the first generation to face this challenge.

I remember when you couldn’t even mention environmental issues without a snicker. But then in the 70’s people got tired of seeing the Cuyahoga River catch on fire from all the chemicals. So one day millions of Americans marched. Politicians had no choice but to take notice. Twelve Congressmen were dubbed the Dirty Dozen, and soon after seven were kicked out of office. The floodgates were opened. We got the Clean Air Act, The Clean Water Act and Safe Drinking Water. We created the EPA. The quality of life improved because concerned citizens made their issues matter in elections.

You are citizens in the greatest democracy in the world. Moments like Katrina are so difficult - so painful - but they help you define your service to your fellow citizens. I’ll never forget as a teenager standing in a field in October of 1957 watching the first man made spacecraft streak across the night sky. The conquest, of course, was Soviet - and while not everyone got to see the unmanned craft pass overhead at 18,000 miles per hour that night - before long every American knew the name Sputnik. We knew we had been caught unprepared.

In the uncertain years thereafter, President Kennedy challenged Americans to act on that instinct. He said, "This is a great country, but I think it could be a greater country...the question we have to decide as Americans," he said, is "are we doing enough today?"

Today, every American knows the name Katrina -- and once again we know our government was undeniably unprepared, even as Americans have shown their willingness to sacrifice to make up for it.

But in these uncertain weeks of Katrina's aftermath, we must ask ourselves not just whether a great country can be made greater -- the sacrifice and generosity of Americans these last weeks answered that question with a resounding yes.

No, our challenge is greater - it’s to speak out so loudly that Washington has no choice but to make choices worthy of this great country - choices worthy of the sacrifice of our neighbors in the Gulf Coast and our troops all around the world.

What's in it for all of us? Nothing less than the character of our country - and your future.
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ConfusingJazz said:
He is also getting slammed in the polls right now, with most showing only 40% approval rating. So yeah, unless something dramatic happens, like people stop dying in the middle east and osama bin ladin acknowledges that he was wrong and explain why he hated freedom for so long, I can't see very much coming out of the administration.
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It'd be nice to think the tide's a-changin' but it all seems so familiar...
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Jesus people why are people getting all happy over this news. It was common knowledge that if Bush got reelected that his second administration would be shit. Now all of a sudden you have people popping out of the woodworks as if they were Sylvia Brown, claiming the obvious has come to pass. Bush doesn't care he's had his 2 terms and got his war and made his buddies a pretty penny. The only thing he has to do that's worth anything is get his two conservative Supreme Court nominees passed, which will definitely happen because the Reps will make it a point to campaign on it. "If you want to stop the fags, blacks, and uppity women killing their babies in the womb, reelect us." Then they will point to the recent passing of same sex marriage laws in the northeast and possibly California, and claim only a conservative Supreme Court can stop these evil, fags. Totally ignoring that they are supposed to be champions of states right.
 
TomStrong said:
Jesus people why are people getting all happy over this news. It was common knowledge that if Bush got reelected that his second administration would be shit. Now all of a sudden you have people popping out of the woodworks as if they were Sylvia Brown, claiming the obvious has come to pass. Bush doesn't care he's had his 2 terms and got his war and made his buddies a pretty penny. The only thing he has to do that's worth anything is get his two conservative Supreme Court nominees passed, which will definitely happen because the Reps will make it a point to campaign on it. "If you want to stop the fags, blacks, and uppity women killing their babies in the womb, reelect us." Then they will point to the recent passing of same sex marriage laws in the northeast and possibly California, and claim only a conservative Supreme Court can stop these evil, fags. Totally ignoring that they are supposed to be champions of states right.
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wow you sure have republicans pegged
 
Kerry's right on the ball on pretty much all counts. The only problem is that Bush is in office until January 2009. Plenty of time for the Bush administration to wage another "war of distraction" against the voting public. We'll have forgotten all about Katrina by 2008, and Democrats who bring it up will be "dredging up old, resolved news."

So unfortunately I don't think this'll accomplish anything. But especially after reading the speech, I'm proud that my vote went to John Kerry, even though he didn't get elected.
 
Here is a stupidly dumb question, very ignorant and I apologize in advance...What if the country was in a wartime situation...could you delay elections?
 
SteveMeister said:
Kerry's right on the ball on pretty much all counts. The only problem is that Bush is in office until January 2009. Plenty of time for the Bush administration to wage another "war of distraction" against the voting public. We'll have forgotten all about Katrina by 2008, and Democrats who bring it up will be "dredging up old, resolved news."

So unfortunately I don't think this'll accomplish anything. But especially after reading the speech, I'm proud that my vote went to John Kerry, even though he didn't get elected.
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Ditto, and wasn't the day after election day like the worst day ever. That day was surreal it was like all my hopes had died.
 
Tommie Hu$tle said:
Ditto, and wasn't the day after election day like the worst day ever. That day was surreal it was like all my hopes had died.
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Yea. I didn't watch the national news, or any cable news program, for a good three weeks or so.
 
Fight for Freeform said:
Here is a stupidly dumb question, very ignorant and I apologize in advance...What if the country was in a wartime situation...could you delay elections?
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Yes I think there is a provision to delay elections in certain circumstances, but it has never been used even in times of war so unless, so unless something catastrophic happens, say an all out invasion of the US I don't think delaying elections would happen.
 
sans_pants said:
wow you sure have republicans pegged
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I'm gonna go with the great David Cross on this one:
"Now, I'm not saying that all Republicans are racist, sexist, homophobic idiots. Just the people they choose to elect to represent them are."

Guess what? It may not be your intention to support that kind of agenda, but if you're voting for Republicans you're pretty much lining up right next to those who are. Sucks to be you.
 
Wow Kerry really laid the wood with that speech. If only the hurricane (and Kerry's subsequent newfound brass balls) had showed up a year earlier, he might have been able to windsurf his way to the White House.
 
Ned Flanders said:
Wow Kerry really laid the wood with that speech. If only the hurricane (and Kerry's subsequent newfound brass balls) had showed up a year earlier, he might have been able to windsurf his way to the White House.
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Don't sound so happy about the hurricane.
 
Widfara said:
Don't sound so happy about the hurricane.
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No one's *happy* about Katrina. But if there is going to be a silver lining amidst the tragedy, it's that the storm completely took the wind out of an administration that's been nothing but destructive to to this country.
 
Incognito said:
And John Kerry comes out swinging today, concise as ever(Joke...). But the speech is very good.
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Where was this John Kerry a year ago? When he was saying "reporting for duty" and talking about Vietnam? Sorry Lonestar. I know he's your boy and all, but too little too late. I hope the Dems don't shoot themselves in the foot again with this guy in 2008. Regardless, I'll be voting for Ralph again.
 
xsarien said:
No one's *happy* about Katrina. But if there is going to be a silver lining amidst the tragedy, it's that the storm completely took the wind out of an administration that's been nothing but destructive to to this country.
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Theres is NO silver lining about a storm that killed hundreds and wrecked one of our most historic cities. It is pathetic that you would even think such a thing.
 
xsarien said:
No one's *happy* about Katrina. But if there is going to be a silver lining amidst the tragedy, it's that the storm completely took the wind out of an administration that's been nothing but destructive to to this country.
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IAWTP. In addition, it brought an apathetic media back to fulfilling one of its essential roles: to hold the administration accountable to the public.
 
The think it's funny when Bush or some other extreme Republican uses the word liberal as something negative.

The Republican party has become a bunch of whiney liberal religious nuts that want big government but don't want to pay for it. (Edit: Liberal used in contrast/irony, not negative sort of way).

Real conservatives are in the Libertarian party. Hell even Democrats are more conservative in ways.
 
Groder Mullet said:
Theres is NO silver lining about a storm that killed hundreds and wrecked one of our most historic cities. It is pathetic that you would even think such a thing.
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I wish I could live in the black and white world that you seem to inhabit. Wait, no I don't. I prefer reality where the aftermath of Katrina has indeed opened some eyes to the incompetence of the Bush administration. I'm sure everyone wishes there was another way to get that done, but that's not how it happened. Katrina happened, and I'd rather people wake up and see the shit than continue to live in total ignorance and naivety.
 
Groder Mullet said:
Theres is NO silver lining about a storm that killed hundreds and wrecked one of our most historic cities.
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Ooh, the Callous Tear Jerker double-play! You truly are a member of the GOP Army!

Listen closely, because even this little nugget of logic may blow your mind:

Now that the our complete inability to handle a natural disaster has been exposed, we're likely moving towards fixing the problems that are in the system so, should we have another Katrina, evacuation plans won't include "Stuff 'em all in the stadium, the Feds will pick them up eventually."

That starts at the top. The guy who made Brown FEMA head deserves no power in Washington. That "guy" happens to be Bush; his "agenda" would've wrecked this country, affecting far more than "hundreds" of people. For now, yes, I'm thankful that it's derailed. Would I have preferred some other way? Of course. But I can't control how his administration is exposed.
 
I don't know, from watching C-SPAN all of last year during the campaign, this speech sounds a lot like the Kerry from last year. All Bush needed was Osama Bin Boogeyman to grace our TV screens to scare the everliving shit out of people to secure his second term.

Also sounds like the same Kerry I saw speak in person five months ago.
 
Tommie Hu$tle said:
Ditto, and wasn't the day after election day like the worst day ever. That day was surreal it was like all my hopes had died.
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I was so depressed the day after I ate a turkey sandwich at Subway, despite being vegetarian. :(
 
AB 101 said:
Party time in GAFville!!!

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You know, believe it or not, I'd much rather live in a world where I had genuine respect for my President. It's not like I break out the fucking noisemakers and party hats whenever his approval ratings drop. Actually, it just depresses me; that he's just so detatched and insulated from reality is both scary and a testament to how the 2004 election wasn't about voting *for* anyone, but rather against the other.
 
xsarien said:
You know, believe it or not, I'd much rather live in a world where I had genuine respect for my President. It's not like I break out the fucking noisemakers and party hats whenever his approval ratings drop. Actually, it just depresses me; that he's just so detatched and insulated from reality is both scary and a testament to how the 2004 election wasn't about voting *for* anyone, but rather against the other.
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Wow, ive never done this before but QFT!
 
xsarien said:
You know, believe it or not, I'd much rather live in a world where I had genuine respect for my President. It's not like I break out the fucking noisemakers and party hats whenever his approval ratings drop. Actually, it just depresses me; that he's just so detatched and insulated from reality is both scary and a testament to how the 2004 election wasn't about voting *for* anyone, but rather against the other.
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Wow. Well thought out. Level headed. Wise. WHO ARE YOU AND WHAT HAVE YOU DONE WITH XSARIEN?!!!
 
It's too early to make any such proclamation... Bush still has more than 3 years left to fuck things up even more, or fix them.
 
BTW, here's an interesting article on the 1995 Chicago heat wave that killed 790+ people that has some similarities to Katrina disaster in terms of the disproportionate amount of minorities and elderly who died. Does anyone remember this event and whether there was similar political impact on the Clinton administration and/or FEMA? Seems like we haven't learned anything about how to deal with disasters since then.



http://www.press.uchicago.edu/Misc/Chicago/443213in.html
 
Lardbutt said:
BTW, here's an interesting article on the 1995 Chicago heat wave that killed 790+ people that has some similarities to Katrina disaster in terms of the disproportionate amount of minorities and elderly who died. Does anyone remember this event and whether there was similar political impact on the Clinton administration and/or FEMA? Seems like we haven't learned anything about how to deal with disasters since then.



http://www.press.uchicago.edu/Misc/Chicago/443213in.html
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Well it's a little different as far as media goes. It's dramatic so show people stuck with water all around them knowing they have no water or food. Opposed to showing people that are...um...really hot. Further I was reading some interesting article about how already the situation was bad, but it was made worse because Bush has been such a devisive president.
 
This is the same long-winded Kerry that was always around. But in the post-election environment and with the circumstances being what they are, he's free to be as ballsy as he wants at the moment. If he runs again, I'll vote for him again. He may not be the best candidate to ensure a Democratic win in terms of public image and such, but he's an entirely capable person to be president.
 
So if Kerry was president during the time of the Bush administration, the flooding after Katrina wouldn't have happened? Yeah right. The cuts made by the administration to the core of engineers wouldn't have made a diffrence in this storm. The cuts were made to rennovations to levees to let them withstand a category 3 hurricane. This was a category 5 hurricane in the gulf, 4 once it hit the coast. Then the levees that had been upgraded failed anyways.


Bush is a horrible president, but Kerry still sucks too. I like McCain '08.
 
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