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Tobimacoss
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That PowerA Battle Dragon must be doing something nice. But yea, Dualsense is the best in latency, I think the polling rate is 250 hz vs 125 hz for Series controllers.Those latencies look pretty bad when compared to controllers like Dualsense, Xbox Series and 8 Bitdo Ultimate. That are all bellow 15ms even in Bluetooth mode.
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John Bilbo
Gold Member
I like the added functions like the grip sensors.
I would consider $800 cheap for the Frame after RAM-pocalypse. I'm fully preparing myself for the 256GB model to be $999 and the 1TB for around $1150.
John Bilbo
Gold Member
I wonder if they can do anything to improve the latency via firmware updates. I have no idea how these things work.Those latencies look pretty bad when compared to controllers like Dualsense, Xbox Series and 8 Bitdo Ultimate. That are all bellow 15ms even in Bluetooth mode.
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winjer
Gold Member
Those latencies look pretty bad when compared to controllers like Dualsense, Xbox Series and 8 Bitdo Ultimate. That are all bellow 15ms even in Bluetooth mode.
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You didn't realize that site is using a completely different methodology to test latency, compared to what GN is using?
That site you posted is only using checking latency from controller to PC.
The test GN did is testing from input to screen display. So it's a full system travel, significantly longer. And it's also more realistic, simply because it includes the whole system.
memoryman3
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This product doesn't look bad but I dislike how it's pretty much locked to the Steam ecosystem. At least developers can add Dualsense support to their games on other stores.
It isnt locked, the driver is open source and any developer can add support for it.
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Aenima
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Those are more aceptable latencies for a 100$ controller. Still cant catch up the Dualsense latency in Bluetooth but is not a big diference.uh, this goes against LTT's lab tests
so no I wonder what the test methodologies are here for both tests
Gambit2483
Member
And yet it continues to sell well with the vast majority of people buying it being extremely satisfied.
You want quality? It's not cheap.
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winjer
Gold Member
Truth be told, no human could ever tell the difference between a 2ms using a controller.
Aenima
Member
Yes its possible to improve latency with firmware updates.
J Required
Banned
Dualsense prove why its GOAT. I can't get back to those naked controllers.Those latencies look pretty bad when compared to controllers like Dualsense, Xbox Series and 8 Bitdo Ultimate. That are all bellow 15ms even in Bluetooth mode.
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kevboard
Member
they are all overpriced.
all first party controllers are overpriced af. especially if you remember that they all use shitty potentiometer sticks.
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JohnnyFootball
GerAlt-Right. Ciriously.
I am still tempted to buy one though.
amigastar
Member
Same, maybe there will be a fine sale on these then i will for sure get one.
Buggy Loop
Member
Those latencies look pretty bad when compared to controllers like Dualsense, Xbox Series and 8 Bitdo Ultimate. That are all bellow 15ms even in Bluetooth mode.
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The methodology is not even comparable though. LDAT is something completely different. Total end to end system latency, click to photon. Unless those controllers would end in the same benchmark with gamers nexus, I fear it's comparing apples and oranges.
MrCunningham
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Logitech has been making game pads since at least the early 2000's with the Wingman brand of gamepads. The Playstation 2 styled Dual Action gamepad replaced the Wingman in 2003-2004. They did actually license the Dual Shock 2 patent from Sony. There was also a Rumble Pad 2 with rumble support, a Wireless Rumblepad 2, the 'Chillstream'. which is a PC gamepad that has a fan in it that blows cool air out of the gamepad to keep your hands cool.
In 2010 the Dual Action line was replaced with the FX10 series of gamespads, that uses that official Microsoft Xinput API and are Xbox 360+ compliant. Logitech's gamepad is a weird amalgamation of the Playstation 2 pad and the Xbox 360 pad. I have probably owned like 4-5 of them, and they always break down the exact same way for me. With the USB cord becoming frayed and it just stops working. I haven't purchased a Logitech gamepad since 2015 or so. I only have a couple 8bitdo gamepads right now. The f310 isn't really a bad gamepad outside of the USB wire problem. It is a continual 'cheap' go-to seller. But I feel like 8bitdo and GameSir has really taken over this space from Logitech. Both 8bitdo and GameSir have controllers that are targeted for the $25 to $30 dollar range which contain much more modern features.
MrCunningham
Member
basically it's the same button configuration as the Steamdeck and has a few new features. The capacity touch sensitivity on the back is an interesting idea. The wireless puck dongle/ charger is also interesting. Looks interesting.
//DEVIL//
Member
in Canada ? if thats the price here I am out.
I am already enjoying my Gameisr G7 pro 8k Aimlabs edition. which is better than Steam controller already.
I just wanted one because I am building a mini itx steam machine ( well.. technically way more powerful than a steam machine but has steam OS in it ) and i kinda wanted to use a steam controller with it. but i aint paying 180$ after taxes for it.
Self High Five
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Mad Catz. It was simpler time
