CentralScrutinizer
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If Samus was a talkative protagonist this game would've been a 70 MC game. You saw how many tantrums people threw in their reviews already.
Samus aran being a complete mute and essentially a robot in metroid prime 4 is dumb.
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R6Rider
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Exactly. Zelda games have this same issue.
Chuck Berry
Gold Member
Not defending anything. It's just that we get it there's a bunch of you that don't like it. There doesn't need to be so many bullshit threads about it that's all.
FalsettoVibe
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Well....there is also the thread about the background music stuff.....but these are legit complaints? Don't get me wrong, I hate dog piling too...but this ain't it.
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semiconscious
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i'm pretty sure that the metroid games, like most nintendo games, are still fundamentally designed for 'children of all ages'. meaning, not adults with adult expectations...
ZoukGalaxy
Member
No, it's absolutely perfect as it.
Go play Fallout 4, STALKER 2, DeadLight 1/2 if you want dumbass and immersion breaking stupid voices.
Chuck Berry
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Well....there is also the thread about the background music stuff.....but these are legit complaints? Don't get me wrong, I hate dog piling too...but this ain't it.
The music unlocks when you finish the game. The amiibo unlocks it earlier. That's it. You wanna be a sperg and need desert music that first run? Have fun spending $30. It's Nintendo playing its dumb suckers like a fucking fiddle.
FoxMcChief
Gold Member
I haven't seen a take as stupid as this once since we lost this guy…
Angry_Megalodon
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Precisely, what the OP is saying is that having a bunch of characters speaking and the MC remaining mute without a lore reason is immersion breaking. How this is so hard to understand is beyond me.
I love it how in this thread the matter is presented as if the only alternative to a mute Samus is a chatty Aloy. Both are equally wrong. They could use a made up language, which would make it more immersive, but for that you need great writing and also proper animations but that's too much work and people will pay regardless so why bother, right.
kiphalfton
Member
Not enough games have a mute main character. Sony specifically doesn't understand this.
Give me good gameplay, music, and atmosphere, and I couldn't care less about hearing the character speak.
Give me good gameplay, music, and atmosphere, and I couldn't care less about hearing the character speak.
FoxMcChief
Gold Member
Something tells me everything coming out of this dopes mouth is going to be poetry.
justiceiro
Marlboro: Other M
All this time after other m, we all thought she was talking about the Metroid baby, but it turned out that the actual babies are the gamers themselves.
Why can't gamers relate to someone that doesn't talk? I bet you all go to parties and stay quiet the entire evening without even looking at anyone's eyes.
What is funny is that everyone complained about miles after previous, but he literally says the same shit to Samus about she being "quiet".
It's jarring how much people are complaining about Metroid being a truly "bounty hunter alone on space" game. They complained about the desert... being a desert with no music. They complained about Samus not being talkative like in other m. They even complained about the companions when most Gameplays I watch people keep missing obvious stuff until the fucking companions point out.
I knew: people never liked Metroid or know what is about. They just wanted a gritty realistic game by Nintendo to do dumb comparisons with other AAA space franchises.
Why can't gamers relate to someone that doesn't talk? I bet you all go to parties and stay quiet the entire evening without even looking at anyone's eyes.
What is funny is that everyone complained about miles after previous, but he literally says the same shit to Samus about she being "quiet".
It's jarring how much people are complaining about Metroid being a truly "bounty hunter alone on space" game. They complained about the desert... being a desert with no music. They complained about Samus not being talkative like in other m. They even complained about the companions when most Gameplays I watch people keep missing obvious stuff until the fucking companions point out.
I knew: people never liked Metroid or know what is about. They just wanted a gritty realistic game by Nintendo to do dumb comparisons with other AAA space franchises.
The real reason is that she had cancer on her throat after years and years of smoking during one mission or the other as I stated in my own topic. Smoking can look cool, but it has a toll on your health, kids.
Sevyne
Member
Having Samus be chatty is the wrong solution for Prime 4. Everyone else in the game needs to shut the fuck up. That's the solution.
For as much as some here shit on Metroid Dread, I think that game struck a fair enough balance that it made sense vibe-wise to be the sequel to Fusion that it was.
For as much as some here shit on Metroid Dread, I think that game struck a fair enough balance that it made sense vibe-wise to be the sequel to Fusion that it was.
Hawk The Slayer
Member
I'll rather have her talk to and definitely love the talking npcs as it adds more life to the world and setting. I want her to give Slyux a piece of her mind Samus style.
nkarafo
Member
Have you ever played other Metroid games OP? Samus is a "mute" in all of them, except OtherM. And it';s one of the many reasons it's considered the worst mainline Metroid game.
The problem with Prime 4 isn't that Samus is mute, the problem is all the other characters who talk to her so much.
It's not that Samus needs to talk, it's that they need to shut up or, better even, not exist.
The problem with Prime 4 isn't that Samus is mute, the problem is all the other characters who talk to her so much.
It's not that Samus needs to talk, it's that they need to shut up or, better even, not exist.
El Hee-Ho
I bought a sex doll, but I keep it inflated 100% of the time and use it like a regular wife
Metroid is all about atmosphere, isolation, mystery and discovery. Having people yappin' around about dumb shit fucks up all of that.
I love Mass Effect, but Metroid isn't that, doesn't need to be that, and it should not be that.
I love Mass Effect, but Metroid isn't that, doesn't need to be that, and it should not be that.
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El Hee-Ho
I bought a sex doll, but I keep it inflated 100% of the time and use it like a regular wife
Preach man. When I was playing Prime 1 I didn't give a fuck about Samus because I was Samus, you know? Seeing everything through the visor, the dropplets of water obscuring your view right after landing on Talon IV. That shit was immersive as fuck and I didn't need any retarded dialogue to make me feel immersed in that world. Retro has lost it. Sad.
TheChadOfGaming
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retard ops next thread: mario jumps too much and its dumb
nkarafo
Member
The industry is filled with talking protagonists already. It's very rare to have a non-indie action/adventure game with a protagonist who doesn't speak nowadays. Let alone having no voice acting or dialog at all. Which is where Prime 4 fails unfortunately, with all those obnoxious NPCs.
Let Metroid be this one rare game that once every few years i can play without being annoyed by cringey voice actors. If someone wants cringe dialog, there's a metric ton of games to choose from that will last for a lifetime. But let this one out of it for me to enjoy.
CentralScrutinizer
Member
Having the villagers in animal crossing be animals is dumb.
Dirk Benedict
Gold Member
Prime 1 has some really good music, man. I feel atmosphere, good music to match it and a decent premise is what usually sets up these games for being good. Not to
Mention they have excellent gameplay and convey the 2d transition into 3d, perfectly for me. Prime1-2
Haven't played 3.
El Hee-Ho
I bought a sex doll, but I keep it inflated 100% of the time and use it like a regular wife
Lil bit offtopic, but can we think of a likeable protagonist that talks that was featured in a recent game? Someone 100% new, spawned during this generation. Someone like captain Shepard from ME, or Drake from Uncharted if you are into movies. Someone charismatic and iconic.
I can't. Well maybe Jack from Stranger of Paradise or Henry from KCD, but aside from those? None. And that's fucked up.
Hell yeah. I recently played Thief for the first time and man, it's clear that good level design and good sound design is all you need to make the player feel immersed. Add some enviroment details and "passive story telling" along the way, like finding some notes on Thief or scanning some interesting data in Metroid Prime and bam, the world is believable and the player is 100% into it.
Add some retard yappin' about Phil and his cubicule and all of that goes out the window. Subtlety is key, I believe.
Yeah me neither. Must be cool but at least back then I had the feel like they were trying to do more story telling via characters and dialogue, which isn't what I want from a Metroid game
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FalsettoVibe
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Something tells me everything coming out of this dopes mouth is going to be poetry.
I do not envy the amount of crow you guys are gonna eat when this game comes out....
Unknown Soldier
Member
Retro was just trying to make a Master Chief with even less personality
They succeeded
They succeeded
HRK69
Member
It's honestly baffling to me how many times that picture gets posted
The fact that people are so hung up on needing to be physically attracted to a character to enjoy a game? That's a real issue. Like, if that's your bar for having fun, maybe it's time to see a therapist.
Kacho
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Andrew Evenstar
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really sucks that prime 4 sucks.
EverydayBeast
ChatShitGPT Alpha 0.001
It's unfortunate Link and Metroid don't speak
El Hee-Ho
I bought a sex doll, but I keep it inflated 100% of the time and use it like a regular wife
they can't crawl either
poodaddy
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I see your point and it's valid OP, but I have a bias here, I must admit, as I always, with absolutely zero exceptions, prefer a mute protagonist. Don't know why, but the second my character says absolutely anything whatsoever, I'm annoyed. Just a thing with me I guess, as I don't think many agree with me on that :/.
ShaiKhulud1989
Gold Member
I usually don't care about the silent protag part, but it looks and sounds simply dumb considering the way the MP4 is presented. Both in cutscenes and gameplay in general.
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sainraja
Member
Enough with this non-sense. Those interactive movies that you are referring to, do have gameplay. If a game dev has put effort in making their characters interesting, that does not make a game more a movie.
Saint Boot Gaming
Member
I've been watching walk-throughs of prime 4 on YouTube and it's utterly ridiculous that retro studios and nintendo decided to make samus aran an emotionless and devoid of life character with no personality. You have samus traveling with multiple characters throughout the game and they're talking to her directly, and yet she says nothing and dosen't even acknowledge them essentially. It makes 0 sense to write samus this way and it comes off as extremely lazy because you're not developing her at all.
Another problem with this is that there's no dialog options from what I can tell meaning you're essentially playing as one of the most boring protagonist you could possibly think of. They have no voice, they don't speak in terms of dialog, and they wear a suit meaning they can't express anything. It makes them a boring character and it's crap writing to do this to a character who is a person beneath the suit that should be developed. They should've developed samus the woman/person by giving her a voice, giving her expressions, giving her a background, and GIVING HER SOME GOOD WRITING!!!!!!! As a gamer it's impossible to relate to a character who is essentially blank with nothing going on because the game gives you 0 to latch onto and sink your teeth into. Retro studios/Nintendo should've done better with this character period.
Not saying you're wrong, but I do have to ask: When it comes to Metroid:
nkarafo
Member
True but Samus not talking isn't the reason. In fact, it's one of the few things they did right.
My biggest issue with Chrono Trigger. That and the anticlimactic final boss.
STARSBarry
Gold Member
Iv got the game but its a Christmas gift so im not playing until then.
Honestly I know people are hating the other characters being there, but since they are then Samus should speak too. It could of been great. For example Master Chief hardly says anything at all, that style of talked at and only says something when its important too would of worked perfectly.
