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[Durante]

You know the drill:

1. Sayonara Umihara Kawase got a PC port.
2. It was locked to 960x544 (!) -- or at least that's what people thought (ok, that's actually novel, read the link below if you want to know what the "that's what people thought" part is all about).
3. I fixed it.

Why is this interesting?

• It's the first time GeDoSaTo does anything useful for a DX11 game.
• It's a great platformer, and other than the resolution lock it's a decent port (very consistent 60 FPS framerate, no issues).
• It's the debut of the new GeDoSaTo texture resolution upscaling option. Works like the one I did some time ago for PPSSPP.

 

[Jawmuncher]

Excellent Work as always.

 

[Ridley327]

If I'm reading this right, the resolution lock seems similar to what was going on with the Dark Souls port before you fixed it. Does that sound right?

Still, that's crazy that they went out of their way to port it over under such strange settings.

 

[GhostTrick]

It's the debut of the new GeDoSaTo texture resolution upscaling option. Works like the one I did some time ago for PPSSPP.

I always wondered why that texture upscale option never happened. Some games will really benefit from it.

 

[Durante]

If I'm reading this right, the resolution lock seems similar to what was going on with the Dark Souls port before you fixed it. Does that sound right?

Yes, very close really, given that DS1 also had a very unusual internal rendering resolution of 1024x720. Obviously 896×512 is even worse, but the principle is very similar.

 

[Joyful]

nice job

 

[Eila]

Based Durante.

 

[Ridley327]

Yes, very close really, given that DS1 also had a very unusual internal rendering resolution of 1024x720. Obviously 896×512 is even worse, but the principle is very similar.

It still amazes me that it's possible to have an internal rendering resolution, an external rendering resolution, and THEN upscale that to what your display ouputs at. I'm not super tech savvy, but that sounds like some straight-up divide by zero shit to me.

 

[Peltz]

All hail Durante for fixing our games.

 

[impact]

At this point I think these lazy Japanese developers are putting the least amount of effort into their ports because they know you'll fix it for them at no cost

Great work, even if I have no interest in this game.

 

[Tain]

Awesome. Still haven't picked this port up yet, as I didn't play a ton of the 3DS game, but this pushes me pretty close.

 

[Durante]

It still amazes me that it's possible to have an internal rendering resolution, an external rendering resolution, and THEN upscale that to what your display ouputs at. I'm not super tech savvy, but that sounds like some straight-up divide by zero shit to me.

This makes me want to tell you that many modern games, particularly on consoles, might have multiple internal rendering resolutions!
(E.g. alpha effects are rendered at lower resolution than the main pass)

And of course, you could think of shadow map resolution as a "rendering resolution" as well, and those are all over the place.

 

[antitrop]

Admit it, Durante. You just do this for the tags.

 

[Sakura]

Why the heck did they lock it at 960x544? What's the point?

 

[Stevey]

Nice work man

 

[Psxphile]

Why the heck did they lock it at 960x544? What's the point?

To hide how shit some of the textures will look at 1920x1080, I imagine.

 

[Eila]

Why the heck did they lock it at 960x544? What's the point?

It's a Vita port.

 

[ramoisdead]

His tag is going to get bigger now...

 

[Durante]

Admit it, Durante. You just do this for the tags.

Are you accusing me of tag fishing?

(Actually, I think my tag is about as good as it can get)

Why the heck did they lock it at 960x544? What's the point?

It's actually 896×512!

 

[Hero_of_the_Day]

960x544? The fuck?

 

[Hassun]

Durante is the saviour we don't deserve but very much appreciate.

 

[-bakalhau-]

960x544? The fuck?

It's a Vita game, hence that resolution.

 

[poodaddy]

Durante.....are you our savior? Honest question.

 

[Anteater]

 

[thequickandthedead]

Would you ever consider a job in the video game industry Durante?

 

[Durante]

To hide how shit some of the textures will look at 1920x1080, I imagine.

I don't really get that line of thought. I mean, you don't fix a few bad textures by making everything look like shit. Really, the aliasing at 896×512 on a PC monitor without any AA is out of this world. Just look at the image in the OP, and imagine that it's far worse in motion.

If that's the cure, then it's very much one of these "worse than the disease" things.

Would you ever consider a job in the video game industry Durante?

Sure. When I finished my PhD (2 years back) I considered applying for Oculus. But I didn't really want to move to the US. Looking back, if I had done it I'd probably be a lot richer. But I'd also be working for Facebook. Hardly worth it

My dream job would be having a small (e.g. me and <5 other people) company creating PC ports of indie and mid-tier titles.

Spoiler

Starting with all 6 PS3 Atelier games.

 

[Accoun]

It's actually 896×512!

So it's non-native on Vita?

 

[Hero_of_the_Day]

It's a Vita game, hence that resolution.

Gotcha. I figured it was a phone game or something. I was close. Still insane a company would release a game on PC at that resolution.

 

[Momentary]

I will actually buy this now. Durante always coming to the rescue.

 

[Durante]

So it's non-native on Vita?

I don't know if anyone ever investigated it, but I wouldn't be surprised if it was rendering at 896×512 on Vita.

Otherwise, the choice of internal resolution on PC would be even more insane.

 

[Ruruja]

My dream job would be having a small (e.g. me and <5 other people) company creating PC ports of indie and mid-tier titles.

Spoiler

Starting with all 6 PS3 Atelier games.

Funnily enough that's my dream job for you too!

 

[sixteen-bit]

Thanks OP

 

[GhostTrick]

Speaking of which Durante, do you think the texture upscale could work with any 3D emulator such as Dolphin ? I wonder how close to WWHD would the GC version of Wind Waker would look with such a texture upscale.

 

[Ridley327]

This makes me want to tell you that many modern games, particularly on consoles, might have multiple internal rendering resolutions!
(E.g. alpha effects are rendered at lower resolution than the main pass)

And of course, you could think of shadow map resolution as a "rendering resolution" as well, and those are all over the place.

That stuff, I'm aware of, but I don't mind that as much. Now, if it's running at different framerates, like the physics in the first two Bioshock titles, then I get really grumpy.

 

[Knurek]

My dream job would be having a small (e.g. me and <5 other people) company creating PC ports of indie and mid-tier titles.

Spoiler

Starting with all 6 PS3 Atelier games.

I shudder to think how much K-T would want to charge for a good port of their games, when they have the gall to want €60 (+€12 for DLC) for Toukiden: Kiwami.
€240?

 

[Stumpokapow]

Just so you can plan your future exploits, know that GAF tags are limited to ~250 characters so if you keep doing this, we'll run out of space.

 

[Eolz]

Awesome! Thanks for that Durante

 

[GhostTrick]

I don't really get that line of thought. I mean, you don't fix a few bad textures by making everything look like shit. Really, the aliasing at 896×512 on a PC monitor without any AA is out of this world. Just look at the image in the OP, and imagine that it's far worse in motion.

If that's the cure, then it's very much one of these "worse than the disease" things.

Sure. When I finished my PhD (2 years back) I considered applying for Oculus. But I didn't really want to move to the US. Looking back, if I had done it I'd probably be a lot richer. But I'd also be working for Facebook. Hardly worth it

My dream job would be having a small (e.g. me and <5 other people) company creating PC ports of indie and mid-tier titles.

Spoiler

Starting with all 6 PS3 Atelier games.

:")

Just so you can plan your future exploits, know that GAF tags are limited to ~250 characters so if you keep doing this, we'll run out of space.

Eh, I never understood how these tags things works. It's like black magic or sorcery to me. Is it something only certain members choose, or something mods choose on demand or just for fun ?

 

[mattiewheels]

At this point I think these lazy Japanese developers are putting the least amount of effort into their ports because they know you'll fix it for them at no cost

Great work, even if I have no interest in this game.

You sound like satire, but either way it's more cluelessness than anything else. Japanese devs just don't seem to care about full resolution options and frame rate control like western devs do.

 

[Tain]

I don't really get that line of thought. I mean, you don't fix a few bad textures by making everything look like shit. Really, the aliasing at 896×512 on a PC monitor without any AA is out of this world. Just look at the image in the OP, and imagine that it's far worse in motion.

If that's the cure, then it's very much one of these "worse than the disease" things.

I really do think it's possible for a uniformly low resolution, which basically acts as a single hurdle that I can jump over relatively quickly, to be preferable to huge visual inconsistency throughout a game.

But when I say "huge visual inconsistency", I'm talking, like, Mario 64 at 1440p. Not this, which seems so obviously and completely better-looking at higher resolutions.

 

[KainXVIII]

Great work!

 

[Dictator93]

It is DX11`?!

what on earth is this?

 

[SOLDIER]

So how do you get this to work? Just leave the GeDaSaTo program running while firing up the game? What are the best settings to get the cleanest image possible?

 

[YianGaruga]

My dream job would be having a small (e.g. me and <5 other people) company creating PC ports of indie and mid-tier titles.

Spoiler

Starting with all 6 PS3 Atelier games.

Do it

Also I love you

 

[TheSeks]

Just so you can plan your future exploits, know that GAF tags are limited to ~250 characters so if you keep doing this, we'll run out of space.

The previous tag was better. All you had to do was throw in a 544p resolution mention and it'd worked all the same.

 

[The Bankslammer]

Damn, working great for me. Good, good shit.

 

[Gbraga]

I... didn't even know it was broken...

Goddamn, Durante, you work too fast. Truly worth of the title Father of the Abyss.

Just so you can plan your future exploits, know that GAF tags are limited to ~250 characters so if you keep doing this, we'll run out of space.

It's still missing "nep nep" though.

 

[Chariot]

My dream job would be having a small (e.g. me and <5 other people) company creating PC ports of indie and mid-tier titles.

Spoiler

Starting with all 6 PS3 Atelier games.

You truly are an angel ;___;

 

[YianGaruga]

It's still missing "nep nep" though.

But that port is good by itself? What did Durante do there?

 

[Accoun]

The previous tag was better. All you had to do was throw in a 544p resolution mention and it'd worked all the same.

Also he should have started it with a capital letter.