Secure Boot needed for Ricochet coming to COD with BO7

Actually thought it was good, but saw some popular streamer randomly to see how warzone is these days and every match they had a cheater that was obvious. Theres also those that play smart with cheats. It's fucking useless. It has banned legit players instead tho. This is why I gave up onling gaming on PC for years now. Everyone cheats, and I'm shocked some of ya'll still bother.
 
tylrdiablos said:
Genuine question: Other than requiring a new(-ish) motherboard, what are the downsides to Secure Boot?
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Might cause incompatibility with older programs. Though I have been using it for a few years, and had none.
It also might cause boot times to be slightly longer.
But on the plus side, it makes the OS and UEFI more resilient to tampering, including malware, hackers, etc.
 
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Topher said:
How would secure boot help with cheaters?
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Modern anti-cheat programs are very good at detecting cheats.
But their main flaw is when a process injects something before the anti-cheat program starts.
This is how most modern cheats function, to bypass these anti cheat systems.
 
A lot of motherboards people have are officially obsolete if this keeps up. I know my last pc didn't have this. I couldn't even install windows 11 with that pc because of this. I met all the other windows 11 requirements.
 
winjer said:
Modern anti-cheat programs are very good at detecting cheats.
But their main flaw is when a process injects something before the anti-cheat program starts.
This is how most modern cheats function, to bypass these anti cheat systems.
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Ah.....so is this kind of like a checksum to validate the integrity of the program in memory from the hardware level?
 
Kilau said:
This will help in case Clara comes visiting.
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Understand Captain America GIF


 
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Secure boot is great for Windows and Linux. Depends on who controls the keys to the doors on your system though

It's not infallible as private keys have been leaked, motherboards have vulnerabilities etc

Here are just a couple of past issues..

www.tomshardware.com

Critical UEFI vulnerabilities found in Gigabyte motherboards — allow attackers to bypass Secure Boot and install firmware backdoors

Security researchers warn of persistent firmware threats affecting hundreds of models.
www.tomshardware.com www.tomshardware.com

www.csoonline.com

Secure Boot no more? Leaked key, faulty practices put 900 PC/server models in jeopardy

PKfail: An AMI Platform Key discovered on GitHub led researchers to uncover test keys in firmware images from major PC and server vendors, something hackers could exploit if leaked to gain kernel control.
www.csoonline.com www.csoonline.com
 
I have an older PC I only use for Cubase that refuse to upgrade to Windows 11 because of this secure boot tpm2 thing, tried a bunch of bios changes but it's not working.
Sucks for those who gets locked out of games for similar reasons, the whole thing seems messy with too many variables affecting it.
 
tylrdiablos said:
Genuine question: Other than requiring a new(-ish) motherboard, what are the downsides to Secure Boot?
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I'd be interested in the details here, too, as I know jackshit about anti cheat tech. Independent of the question wheather these pieces of software make your computer more vulnerable in certain aspects, can someone here with the knowledge explain to us how effective these apps can be in order to prevent cheating? Is the secure boot thingy discussed here a price worth paying because it stops cheating reliably, or will this be defeated by hackers in a couple of weeks?
 
Jigsaah said:
Valorant has the same requirements through Vanguard. People still cheat.
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The working cheats in Valorant are mostly useless, and the hacking scene has been dead for years.

A few private ones rely on a second PC to read memory externally, but they're expensive, easy to detect, and unlikely to last much longer.

It doesn't mean glitches and exploits won't find their way into the game, but the classic wallhacks and aimbots that were ruining online gaming are finished.

The main issue is trusting these publishers not to mess up their drivers. Microsoft is supposedly coming out with a native solution that will expose an API that should clean this nonsense up.
 
Definitely won't stop all cheating but hope it helps at least.

Next step, totally remove these battleroyale games from being free to play.

Then ban device like cronus/xim/whatever.

Whatever it takes, stop the cheaters please.

Its super blatant on warzone again, people full on rage hacking in resurgence and don't care.
 
When you all talk about cheating in COD--what does this look like? What are the giveaways that someone is cheating?
 
ancelotti said:
The working cheats in Valorant are mostly useless, and the hacking scene has been dead for years.

A few private ones rely on a second PC to read memory externally, but they're expensive, easy to detect, and unlikely to last much longer.

It doesn't mean glitches and exploits won't find their way into the game, but the classic wallhacks and aimbots that were ruining online gaming are finished.

The main issue is trusting these publishers not to mess up their drivers. Microsoft is supposedly coming out with a native solution that will expose an API that should clean this nonsense up.
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So you have faith that what COD is doing will work?
 
Comments who said this shit will work aged well


keep living in your bubble if you think anything is ever going to stop cheaters on PC. I'll never return to competitive online trash.
 
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Can someone eli5 why this is a requirement for their anti-cheat. Why do they think its more effective?

From the outside it looks to me to some degree like MS defending windows as the #1 gaming OS by keeping players of their biggest MP title hostage.
 
Reading the title I thought Ricochet was coming back.

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I was updating my BIOS and suddenly Windows wanted to reset my PIN. I hate modern computing. Same with BitLocker- its a gaming PC that sits in my house seriously if somebody breaks in they will just steal it for parts.
 
RCX said:
Can someone eli5 why this is a requirement for their anti-cheat. Why do they think its more effective?

From the outside it looks to me to some degree like MS defending windows as the #1 gaming OS by keeping players of their biggest MP title hostage.
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Maybe regulators should scrutinise this more. People that claim PC is an open platform but are happy to allow only software signed with a key issued by Microsoft seems like a dichotomy.
 
I'm really not a fan of this sort of approach and I won't buy any game that has it... but I get that there's not exactly a wealth of solutions that stop short of this. MP gaming is just a cesspool.
 
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