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So Sony World is Xbox Live

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Not sure if gameshout is all that reliable as a source though

"Sony has confirmed that it will offer a PlayStation 3 Live Service which will be similar to Microsoft Xbox Live.

Rumours have been spreading for months now regarding Sony's new online multiplayer service for the PS3. Sony has confirmed that the upcoming Sony PlayStation 3 will have a live service. Earlier speculations indicated that Sony had no plans for online PlayStation3 compatibilities.

The new PS3 video game console will include such a service which will allow gamers to communicate, compete, and participate in live in-game tournaments.

The Japanese game giant has begun distributing a questionnaire to gamers regarding console online gaming. The questions are asking whether or not people find online play fun, and what kind of features they might like to be included in the PS3's Live service."


http://www.gameshout.com/news/012006/article2661.htm
 
I think this article is just basing speculation on the online survey going around...meaning they dont know jack shit

Tigerriot said:
But they don't have achievements!
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BUY A X360 IT'S ALL OVER
 
The entire assumption that they had "no plan" is retarded. They had a plan for the PS2, it was just "we'll let publishers handle it". Sony executives have been quoted many times as saying "networking is important to the PS3", it has wi-fi built-in and 3 ethernet ports.

I'm curious how people think a multinational publicly traded company with 2 gaming products that already support network play and just launched an online music and video store would have no plan for supporting the internet on their flagship product.
 
qirex said:
I'm curious how people think a multinational publicly traded company with 2 gaming products that already support network play and just launched an online music and video store would have no plan for supporting the internet on their flagship product.
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Those people ain't in this thread.
 
Seems like wishful thinking at the moment. 'Sony World' sounds like a portal to their entire corporate product line, I'd imagine using the brand-name 'Playstation' would be more in order.
 
Suppoedley this is just because of the Sony "Online Survey". Sony has announced or shown any thing to be exactly like live. This is just Gameshout looking at the survey and saying "Sony World = Xbox Live!"
 
Wait, so Sony actually shows screenshots of the PS2 with a monitor and AOL support and that never materializes, but suddenly Im supposed to believe a survey that doesnt necesarrily indicate what Sony is or isnt doing next gen suddenly means Xbox Live is doomed?

We'll see, but does anyone remember the Perfect Dark Zero survey where huge chunks of the information in it never happened? We'll see, but it could be the case that Sony is doing *some* of the stuff in the survey and are thinking about other parts of it.

I'm hoping this all materializes because Live has made alot of mediocre games extremely fun... but I'll wait for an official announcement.
 
I really like the unified single identity thing. That and a friends list and i'm good to go. Its going to be interesting if they go with this and try to stay with an open infrastructure (unless they've abandoned that).
 
xaosslug said:
Hurry, eBay your X360 while it's still in any demand!

Game over, man, GAME OVER!
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If Sony can somehow get PS3 to play X360 exclusives I will ;)

I just hope Sony keep their XBL-lite service free. Fuck paying for P2P.


BlueTsunami said:
I really like the unified single identity thing. That and a friends list and i'm good to go. Its going to be interesting if they go with this and try to stay with an open infrastructure (unless they've abandoned that).
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I'm pretty sure that's what they'll do. That way the whole system is unified (with the universal login and friends list), but the developers take care of the online infrastructures. That way Sony doesn't have to manage shit all and it can remain free. That'd be perfect.
 
It pretty much looked better than every X360 game(except Gow)showned at last E3 and they are still working on it.
 
BlueTsunami said:
I really like the unified single identity thing. That and a friends list and i'm good to go. Its going to be interesting if they go with this and try to stay with an open infrastructure (unless they've abandoned that).
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The problem Sony faces is how to support 100M+ PS2 owners in this new fangled Playstation World? PSP firmware/dashboard can be upgraded, PS3 I'm sure can be too but what about PS2?

Kaz has already gone on record that they are going to support all 3 online and leave no one behind so it will interesting to see how they achieve that without sacrificing features.

Pedigree Chum said:
I just hope Sony keep their XBL-lite service free. Fuck paying for P2P.
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Playstation online isn't P2P so if you do pay it won't be for P2P. I think the way Sony wants to play it is to let publishers decide what they are going to charge (if anything) for online play.

The more pertinent question is what will MS fanatics have left to herald now that the HDD is gone and a comparable service to Live is launching?

The Bestest Controller in The World EVAR!?
 
monkeymagic said:
The more pertinent question is what will MS fanatics have left to herald now that the HDD is gone and a comparable service to Live is launching?
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Since I'm not a bot, I'd think it is great! Of course I'd keep playing my 360 as well since I'm not a mental 12-year-old, and I have a job.

I'm not holding my breath, though. :(
 
StoOgE said:
My guess is PSP and PS2 will miss out on Sony World or whatever this winds up being.
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i bet my anal virginity on it being intergeated into a firmware update for the psp.
 
StoOgE said:
My guess is PSP and PS2 will miss out on Sony World or whatever this winds up being.
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I think they will include the PSP. A firmware upgrade when the time is right. PSP games released before 'PSP World' will just work outside it(like online PS2 games on PS3) or something to that degree.
 
teepo said:
i bet my anal virginity on it being intergeated into a firmware update for the psp.
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then how will the existing games cope with it? It might get some functionality, but I doubt it gets the full treatment.
 
yup, a sony online service is good news - whether it's of the same quality as XBL will be seen when it comes out , costing will be interesting too (free perhaps?)

comparable service to Live is launching?
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this is the crux - we just need to see what they offer. Could be great, could be asscakes.

MS fanatics
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they still have Halo, some bioware games, and - importantly for them i guess - they have thier machine now and don't have to wait until autumn.
 
Yeah, I think PS2 will possibly miss out on "Sony World" and PSP will have an interface to it. The PS3 being the one with the richest features.

I wonder though, if the PS2 does have some sort of connection to Sony World, would it be for games that are released simultaneously on the PS3 and PS2? Would current online games (like Socom) change? and would you be able to download media to your PS2 or something?
 
Not only will I take this with grain of salt, but I'll personally pay Haliburton to excavate the Bonneville Salt Flats and pour it in every orfice in my body, and they can make new ones if need be. It can have a billion ethernet ports, big deal. The PS2 had proper hard drive capability and we all know the story there. At any rate, here's hoping for them to at least try to reach the online bar.
 
monkeymagic said:
The problem Sony faces is how to support 100M+ PS2 owners in this new fangled Playstation World? PSP firmware/dashboard can be upgraded, PS3 I'm sure can be too but what about PS2?

Kaz has already gone on record that they are going to support all 3 online and leave no one behind so it will interesting to see how they achieve that without sacrificing features.



Playstation online isn't P2P so if you do pay it won't be for P2P. I think the way Sony wants to play it is to let publishers decide what they are going to charge (if anything) for online play.

The more pertinent question is what will MS fanatics have left to herald now that the HDD is gone and a comparable service to Live is launching?

The Bestest Controller in The World EVAR!?
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Or maybe exclusive games that they care about? Hey it worked for Sony fans this gen :P
 
it happens on both sides, and i guess now is a good time to rant about this, but the past is rarely a precursor for anything.

Sony didn't implement a plan for PS2 != they'll not implement a plan for PS3
and by the same token
Sony met the renders for PS2 != they'll meet the renders for PS3

It's just stupid. Each situation is different.

Besides, Sony have a real driver for PS3 this time - actually pulling the ENTIRE company out of the sh1tty mess its in. I can sense more urgency to start making some cash!

Bluray + digital distribution via their most successful product since the walkman is obviously the way to go, and good luck to them.

"Kaz has already gone on record that they are going to support all 3 online and leave no one behind so it will interesting to see how they achieve that without sacrificing features."
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PS2 might get the least support out of them all, but will still have access to the functions. Perhaps download some short clips of the games you could be playing on the PS3 soon, and start tempting people off one machine and onto another.
 
Explain something to me.

How it possible that the online experience is "nothing but P2P multiplayer", while it also means something that Sony is offering a Live-esque service?

I don't think you can actually reconcile the two perspectives since Sony will be forced to charge you as the feature list grows.

And of course, all of this is speculation now, which is why we somehow detoured into the worst looking PS3 game (I-8) and its place at last E3 (?!)
 
DCharlie said:
Could be great, could be asscakes.
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Some would say we already have asscakes :D.

The only way is up especially now that every console has network capability built in.

DCharlie said:
importantly for them i guess - they have thier machine now and don't have to wait until autumn.
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You're right - I'm sure they're happy with their decision

As I am mine for waiting.
 
Speevy said:
of course, all of this is speculation now, which is why we somehow detoured into the worst looking PS3 game (I-8) and its place at last E3 (?!)
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Pretty good for 'worst looking title' I would say. :D
 
I don't think Sony will charge us for online, no matter how many features they have.

MS decided to charge us, so they added features, not vice versa.
 
StoOgE said:
then how will the existing games cope with it? It might get some functionality, but I doubt it gets the full treatment.
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See Wollan's answer immediately above your post.

PSP online games that existed prior to Sony's hypothetical "unified online service" would play exactly as they do now. Only future games going forward would be covered under the umbrella of the unified service.

The same could hold true for PS2. From a technical perspective, it would be possible for future PS2 games to work with such a service. But, I don't know if Sony and other developers would make the effort to support it within PS2 games at this point in PS2's market life. They might deliberately keep the PS2 out of this, as they could then angle the unified online service as another selling point for PS3 and maybe PSP.

The upcoming software product EyeToy: Chat might be the closest PS2 gets to some sort of online service that combines multi-user chat rooms (with choice of video, voice, or text messaging) along with the ability to play some simple online games. EyeToy: Chat was announced more than a year ago, and was originally supposed to be out in the spring or summer last year. They may be delaying it and refining it into a product which could serve as a test--or possibly even a gateway--for a PS3/PSP service on a grander scale.
 
Speevy said:
I don't think you can actually reconcile the two perspectives since Sony will be forced to charge you as the feature list grows.
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The main cost in offering an online service like Playstation online is in the server hardware, bandwidth, maintenance and support which were all given for free this gen.

Unified logins and buddy services aren't suddenly going to make it expensive enough to start charging for it purely for cost reasons.
 
I got Eyetoy Chat as a X-mas present from the EU PS2 Beta division last january and I've yet to open it. :lol Sorry but Im not really interested if I have to insert a dvd and load up the program every time(which of course won't be the case with 'Sony World').
 
littlewig said:
I don't think Sony will charge us for online, no matter how many features they have.

MS, on the other hand, decided to charge us so they added features, not vice versa.
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They will charge you for premium content, special "clubs", whatever. Something will cost money. Nintendo is even charging for old NES games. Sony will not invest a great deal of time and money into a service and make every aspect of it free.

You might not be paying a membership fee, but you will come across charges for some aspects of Nintendo, Sony, and MS' services.
 
monkeymagic said:
The main cost in offering an online service like Playstation online is in the server hardware, bandwidth, maintenance and support which were all given for free this gen.

Unified logins and buddy services aren't suddenly going to make it expensive enough to start charging for it purely for cost reasons.
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That's not all Xbox Live is, either.

And if the PS3 online is as fully-featured as Xbox Live, they will be charging for aspects of it.
 
Wollan said:
I got Eyetoy Chat as a X-mas present from the EU PS2 Beta division last january and I've yet to open it. :lol Sorry but Im not really interested if I have to insert a dvd and load up the program every time(which of course won't be the case with 'Sony World').
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So did I :D

It was pretty much dead when I connected to the server though... haven't tried it since.
 
Speevy said:
They will charge you for premium content, special "clubs", whatever. Something will cost money. Nintendo is even charging for old NES games. Sony will not invest a great deal of time and money into a service and make every aspect of it free.

You might not be paying a membership fee, but you will come across charges for some aspects of Nintendo, Sony, and MS' services.
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Of course any content will cost money (games, movies, music, levels etc). That goes without saying.

Access to it is at their discretion and I think they'd be better off offering free access at least for this gen potentially allowing for greater profits.

Many people forget but Sony have mentioned microtransactions several times in the past with Phil Harrison going so far as prophesying that games will be played and bought in chapters/levels.

Unfortunately for MS, for one reason or another, they've been beaten with the 'microtransaction' stick mainly because they were first to market with it.
 
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