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So we all agree Ja Rule had the best charting rap songs (late 90s- early00's)?

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OP, he really did and I'm glad you made this thread. Ja's radio hits during the limelight of his career are classics. He gave a blueprint for rappers to follow as far as radio singles went. He deserves way more credit and respect than what he gets
 

jmizzal

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Ja needs to make a come back. It's weird how people hated on Ja Rule for the soft pop songs, now today people like Drake are one of the biggest names in hip hop.

That wasnt the issue, the issue was Ja Rule claimed to be a thug and his label was murda inc
 
I wasn't a fan once he went pop, but I remember his first album, Venni Vetti Vecci went pretty hard, in the same vein as DMX's It's Dark and Hell Is Hot. Played the hell out of both of these albums back in high school.
 

mckmas8808

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Eminem was killing it from 1996-2002

Legendary

YOU ARE WRONG! Rap albums that came out in 1998 were.


DMX's "It's Dark and Hell is Hot"
DMX's "Flesh of my Flesh, Blood of my Blood"
Jay Z's "Hard Knock Life: Volume 2"
Lauren Hill's "Miseducation"
Outkast's "Aquemini"
Mos Def & Talib Kweli "Black Star"
Big Pun "Capital Punishment"
Juvenile "400 Degreez"
Redman "Doc's da Name"
 

Blueingreen

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Funny you say that. Have you listened to rap music lately?

I mean I have never been a fan of Ja Rule but it is comical how back then he was hated on for singing his own hooks and nowadays basically everyone is doing that

If by everybody you mean Drake and Fetty wap they're actually half decent singers because they understand the importance of a melody, Ja Rule not only lacks a. Melody deep gruff voice is just blood curdling.


Do me a favor.

Go to the World Star youtube channel and randomly listen to their video premiers. And then come back here and repeat what you just said.

WORLDSTARHIPHOP is not a direct representation of Billboard 100 rap music,and to be fair mainstream rap today as garbage as it is, is so self aware it's party music that a rapper like Young Thug can get away with wearing a dress and calling his label mates "boo"
 

Blueingreen

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Eminem was killing it from 1996-2002

Legendary

not really his debut Infinite was a foodstamp Illmatic, mmlp was decent but everything after that...yawn really the best rap albums from that period were all underground,

Operation Doomsday
Funcrusher Plus
Black star
The listening
Cold Vein
scorpion Circles

Seriously if it wasn't for Def Jux and Stones Throw, hip hop would have been dead to me
that era.
 

Grizzo

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I do agree with that statement. Come on people, you can't tell there's not even at least one song from OP's list which you kinda like?

All his features with Ashanti are top-notch (I'm talking about the holy trinity of Always On Time, Mesmerize and Wonderful)
 

Kave_Man

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Ja Rule and all of his same sounding tracks. Don't get me wrong, enjoyed them all but once 50 came out and took his soul the cracks began.

I always remember when the fans finally started to turn on him he debuted a song on 106 and Park and they went to the audience to ask them about it and everyone hated it and complained about how he's always in the rain and crying.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=phhL4YQT2fA
 
Absolutely not. Only if you paid attention to mainstream poppycock.

Even the mainstream stuff was better. Ja may have been topping the charts, but he was by no means representative of that era. I mean, we're talking about a time where the likes of Jay-Z, Eminem, DMX, Kanye, and Cam'ron were in the primes of their careers. Outkast dropped ATLiens in 1998 ffs. Calling it the worst era in hip-hop is laughable.
 

Jay Sosa

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If by everybody you mean Drake and Fetty wap they're actually half decent singers because they understand the importance of a melody, Ja Rule not only lacks a. Melody deep gruff voice is just blood curdling.

erm..

Future? Rich Homie Quan? Young Thug? Lil Yachty?..and so on and so forth. Hell Kanye made an entire album with him 'singing' Hell without 808&Heartbreak there is no drake as we know him right now.

WORLDSTARHIPHOP is not a direct representation of Billboard 100 rap music,and to be fair mainstream rap today as garbage as it is, is so self aware it's party music that a rapper like Young Thug can get away with wearing a dress and calling his label mates "boo"

Eh it's not only party music. Just listen to all this NBA garbage. And don't fool yourself, all of these terrible rappers that are heavily featured on WS (21 Savage, NBA Young Boy, Yachty, Uzi Vert Kodack Black) are immensely popular.

I think what's the most disturbing part about most of these guys is how incredibly stupid they are. I mean treat yourself to an interview with 21 Savage or Yachty. To think that those guys are our youths idols is just frightening. No wonder so many voted for Trump when all of their favorite musicians only talk about making money and f***g bitches.

man I completely digressed, sorry bout that.
 

mckmas8808

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Eh it's not only party music. Just listen to all this NBA garbage. And don't fool yourself, all of these terrible rappers that are heavily featured on WS (21 Savage, NBA Young Boy, Yachty, Uzi Vert Kodack Black) are immensely popular.

I think what's the most disturbing part about most of these guys is how incredibly stupid they are. I mean treat yourself to an interview with 21 Savage or Yachty. To think that those guys are our youths idols is just frightening. No wonder so many voted for Trump when all of their favorite musicians only talk about making money and f***g bitches.

man I completely digressed, sorry bout that.

Hmmm....21 Savage and Lil Uzi Vert aren't the top of hip hop at the moment though. J Cole and Kendrick Lamar speak more for this generation of hip than those "NBA garbage" as you call it.
 

mckmas8808

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with the emphasis on at the moment. This trash rap is becoming more popular with every year it seems.

NBA: Nba Youngboy - Never Broke Again

lol they're videos always make me laugh though. Maybe it's meant as satire.

What time of hip-hop do you like? I didn't think that song was that bad. The quality of the vocals are trash and the video is so low budget that it's hard to take serious. But it didn't seem like complete trash.
 

Jay Sosa

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What time of hip-hop do you like? I didn't think that song was that bad. The quality of the vocals are trash and the video is so low budget that it's hard to take serious. But it didn't seem like complete trash.

Goddamnit. You know what. While I was typing my reply before and that song was playing in the background..I actually enjoyed it too..but I was too lazy to pick another one. GODDAMNIT.

Well then..how about THAT one:

Sauce Walka "That Kid That Did"

lol

What time of hip-hop do you like?

hard to say..So far almost every 'era' had at least quite a few gems for me to listen to. And I quite enjoy some of those mentally handicapped dudes that are so popular nowadays(young thug for instance) , but like I said I can't quite remember hearing so much truly terrible rap like nowadays. But maybe it's just because basically everyone can make an album/mixtape/video nowadays and upload it. I'm pretty certain that's the reason when I think about it.
 

mckmas8808

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Goddamnit. You know what. While I was typing my reply before and that song was playing in the background..I actually enjoyed it too..but I was too lazy to pick another one. GODDAMNIT.

Well then..how about THAT one:

Sauce Walka "That Kid That Did"

lol.

This is AWFUL!!! Jesus man whoa! His name is terrible and his flow is worse. The beat is dope though. It's a shame it was giving to this Sauce Walka. This is the defintion of what the horrible rap music today sounds like. It's a perfect example.

I hope 15 years from now, we won't remember the "teens" of the 2000s being defined by this time of terrible rap. He's purely relying on the beat to make sure everybody can "TURN UP" to this song knowing nobody will care about his bars. Just the beat and the chorus.
 
I wouldn't say best, but he had a good run before Curtis murked his career. Those songs still hold up pretty well too.
If you can't enjoy some Livin it up, maybe you just have no soul.

...Co-signed... Murder Inc were the people... then 50 (later G Unit) came through, and bodied everyone associated with them.
 
...Co-signed... Murder Inc were the people... then 50 (later G Unit) came through, and bodied everyone associated with them.

Well, Murder Inc would have swung back or at least tried if not for all the lawsuits lol.

The fed is what killed em. Ain't no gangster scarier than the IRS.
 

blakep267

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That wasnt the issue, the issue was Ja Rule claimed to be a thug and his label was murda inc
I mean not really. he was never 50 cent level or Fat Joe level. Nobody took tht serious. 50 just needs somebody to beef with to up his troll game etc. Ja rule was the most popular but also an easy target for people. Essentially what Drake is today but also the times are different and people don't really care as much about Cred. So as somebody said on the previous page, Ja rule wouldn't have had the same luck if he was around today as he did in 2003
 
I mean not really. he was never 50 cent level or Fat Joe level. Nobody took tht serious. 50 just needs somebody to beef with to up his troll game etc. Ja rule was the most popular but also an easy target for people. Essentially what Drake is today but also the times are different and people don't really care as much about Cred. So as somebody said on the previous page, Ja rule wouldn't have had the same luck if he was around today as he did in 2003

Ja tried to act like a thug and to answer everytime, that's why he lost.
 
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JeremyEtcetera

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This thread confirms one thing 98-07 was the WORST Fucking in era for hip hop, just an absolute shit factory.

You are mistaken. 08-12 was the worst. You are disrespecting Outkast, Nas, Lauren Hill, Eminem, Joe Budden, Method Man and Redman, Old Kanye, Common, Taliban Kweli, Missy Elliot, Bone Thugs and Harmony, Twista, Busta Rhymes, DMX, 50 Cent, and many more inspirations for the more famous rappers like Drake, J-cole, Chance, Kudi, and Kendrick that this generation puts up on a pedestal.

I could have been not civil about this and gotten mad at you but I simply believe you just either forgot or are ignorant of the legends during that era. The reason 08-12 was bad is because the legends started stepping down and mumble rap, hook rap, and dance rap all became the new hotness on radio stations. It was pretty much lyrical hell.
 

mckmas8808

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You are mistaken. 08-12 was the worst. You are disrespecting Outkast, Nas, Lauren Hill, Eminem, Joe Budden, Method Man and Redman, Old Kanye, Common, Taliban Kweli, Missy Elliot, Bone Thugs and Harmony, Twista, Busta Rhymes, DMX, 50 Cent, and many more inspirations for the more famous rappers like Drake, J-cole, Chance, Kudi, and Kendrick that this generation puts up on a pedestal.

I could have been not civil about this and gotten mad at you but I simply believe you just either forgot or are ignorant of the legends during that era. The reason 08-12 was bad is because the legends started stepping down and mumble rap, hook rap, and dance rap all became the new hotness on radio stations. It was pretty much lyrical hell.

LOL @ mumble rap. I like it for what it is, but it shouldn't dominate radio like it did/does.
 
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