PhantomOfTheKnight
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Wait, really? Shit.
Dark Schala
Eloquent Princess
Going shopping in a second, so I can't respond to larger posts... but I will when I get back since I have a few things to say.
Regardless, I am looking forward to reading the "MS cancels roundtable" thread and the "reviews" thread when I get back. I'm sure the reviews thread isn't going to be as bad as the Uncharted 3 reviews thread. I remember that thread being absolutely bonkers back then. People were being silly.
The weirdest thing?
I don't know what's wrong with me because I cannot muster up the interest for a Final Fantasy game. I even passed by this post without thinking twice and then going back to read it. So strange. I don't get it. I love FF so I'm not sure what's wrong, here. Even stranger is that my friend who completely loved both games prior to this and worships the ground Toriyama walked on hated the LR presentation, thought it was incredibly embarrassing, and thinks LR looks absolutely boring. It honestly made me do a double-take!
Regardless, I am looking forward to reading the "MS cancels roundtable" thread and the "reviews" thread when I get back. I'm sure the reviews thread isn't going to be as bad as the Uncharted 3 reviews thread. I remember that thread being absolutely bonkers back then. People were being silly.
Stop getting banned, omg. I get the urge to be blunt, but c'mon man.
Snow being in charge of a city. Worst mayor. No respecting the pipe here.
The weirdest thing?
I don't know what's wrong with me because I cannot muster up the interest for a Final Fantasy game. I even passed by this post without thinking twice and then going back to read it. So strange. I don't get it. I love FF so I'm not sure what's wrong, here. Even stranger is that my friend who completely loved both games prior to this and worships the ground Toriyama walked on hated the LR presentation, thought it was incredibly embarrassing, and thinks LR looks absolutely boring. It honestly made me do a double-take!
I looooooove that thread. I didn't finish reading it, but as soon as crazy butts got involved, I had to start gigglin' a bit.
Shadow Hog
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Extend this to E3, and this is me.
I dunno, I'm just not quite as enthusiastic as I used to be for these things. I'm only really uber-hyped for more info on Lost World and Smash 4. Everything else is resoundly "eh".
TRUTHFACT
ViewtifulJC
Banned
And I thought I was jaded
Shadow Hog
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I have a reputation as a retro-minded old fart to uphold
ViewtifulJC
Banned
I knew SonicMegaDrive was your alt
Seven Force
Banned
The best part about the thread is the reactions from the people who've never seen a CBOAT post before.
At this point, the only reason I'm interested is to see if they'll actually deliver on the overworld for the game.
Diablohead
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IT'S NO USE!
PhantomOfTheKnight
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PS3 version for the TRUE* Sonic 06 experience
*Most glitchy
Also crazy buttocks? Shietttt, link me to his post.
PhantomOfTheKnight
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Maybe hedgehogs have incredibly short life spans.
Shadow must be hundreds of years old.
Oh dear god, how old is silver he can travel through time.
OAo
PhantomOfTheKnight
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From FaceBook:
Dark Schala
Eloquent Princess
So, uh, the third console curse is realer-than-real now, right? Because oh lawd, if what crazy butts is saying is true (and it usually is), then goodness gracious. That is crazy.
I'm still combing through the thread. I like reading the whole darn thing because the suspense is better.
With respect to the combat, ah. I heard that it gets much easier with respect to the fact that you know which skills to use more and which ones not to use.
As for your last bit, my my that sounds a lot like another game I played where the pacing was a little jarring for one chapter of it. It was something I didn't appreciate at all. The area that I was in became more like a setpiece as opposed to an actual thing that I could genuinely interact with. It completely destroyed my sense of immersion, or at least, what little chances I'd wanted to interact with the area. It's such a shame that it seems to be a bit of a 'thing' for some games this generation.
I'd heard that the OP was considering not linking a certain site's review at all based on its score or based on the fact that it was that particular site or something and people lauding it, which is downright silly and ridiculous.
At the end of the day, though, what I do is that I wait for my friends or people whose opinions I put a lot of stock into on GAF to deliver impressions, especially since generally whatever they like, I will like. There are certain people whose platformer impressions I will take more note of, some people whose RPG impressions I will pay more attention to than others, etc.
I'm still combing through the thread. I like reading the whole darn thing because the suspense is better.
Thing is, I don't like KH either! There's literally nothing about Versus that has me caring about it one single ounce. The battle footage looked straight-up boring and inelegant. I don't care about games being like movies, so the stuff with Noctis running along and shit blowing up or whatever doesn't really appeal to me at all. I just find it rather boring and somewhat representative of some of the stuff I simply stopped caring for in video games this generation.
Same. I'm kinda looking forward to Aksys's lineup, and maybe some other stuff (and whether or not PS4 is region-free), but outside of that? Eh. These are all TRUTHFACTS.
My question is, though, whether or not Infinite gave this indication that it could have been more open for the player to explore at his/her own leisure. Considering many people wanted it to be a more open affair because the world itself is seems to be more intriguing than the combat or how the overall game structure led it to be, I have to wonder if there were inklings for the player to explore at his/her own pace. My assumption is that there are enough NPC characters for the player to want to interact with and learn more about the social structure of the world yet he/she cannot. My sense is that it's a world that's rather familiar to the player, but at the same time, it's fictional and discrepant with respect to the player's initial thoughts about the world. Hence why the player would want to explore the world in-depth... because it's an alternate version of his/her own world.
With respect to the combat, ah. I heard that it gets much easier with respect to the fact that you know which skills to use more and which ones not to use.
As for your last bit, my my that sounds a lot like another game I played where the pacing was a little jarring for one chapter of it. It was something I didn't appreciate at all. The area that I was in became more like a setpiece as opposed to an actual thing that I could genuinely interact with. It completely destroyed my sense of immersion, or at least, what little chances I'd wanted to interact with the area. It's such a shame that it seems to be a bit of a 'thing' for some games this generation.
This is kind of why I pay little mind to review threads now, just because of the way reviews are generally treated (sometimes it feels like how some people feel about them lacks overall consistency). It's part of the reason why I dislike giving scores to games in the first place. Depending on the score scale you use (and we've all seen that picture of regular review scores vs the modern game score scale), everyone will feel differently about that number in general without paying attention to the review text. You know, the thing that people took a few hours to type up with respect to why the knocked the game's score down a few points. Sometimes the reasons can be a little silly, but many of the times, it's easily understood.
I'd heard that the OP was considering not linking a certain site's review at all based on its score or based on the fact that it was that particular site or something and people lauding it, which is downright silly and ridiculous.
At the end of the day, though, what I do is that I wait for my friends or people whose opinions I put a lot of stock into on GAF to deliver impressions, especially since generally whatever they like, I will like. There are certain people whose platformer impressions I will take more note of, some people whose RPG impressions I will pay more attention to than others, etc.
Seven Force
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From FaceBook:
Looks like we might be getting more info this week, too. Should be interesting.
Disgusting how dare you not like that thing I like.
Dark Schala
Eloquent Princess
Rehosted that for you. It's best to rehost even if it is a reduced-quality fb picture.From FaceBook:
I want to see another level, to be honest. It kinda goes back to what we were saying about Marble Zone. As much as the environment looks a little big, I... well, I want to see other level structures.
I hear people say that about me both on and off of GAF so I don't care anymore, haha.
Something something [insert game series] will not sell as much as it used to because [these people] are talking smack about it something something.
I really like the art direction in Lost Worlds. It's pretty much what Sonic 1 and 2 would look like if it was translated to the 3D World, art-wise. (Sonic 3 & Knuckles's art direction matches Sonic Generations more than Lost Worlds)
With that said... I would really like to see more levels because I'm sick of seeing Green Hill all of the time! I mean, nothing against the level, it's one of my favorites but... it's time to see what the other levels look like!
With that said... I would really like to see more levels because I'm sick of seeing Green Hill all of the time! I mean, nothing against the level, it's one of my favorites but... it's time to see what the other levels look like!
Its coo' I would like to hear why you don't like kh though.
I would like to hear a opposing perspective, if you would like to speak on it.
Meccanical
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leadershitfailure
ViewtifulJC
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How much you wanna bet the E3 demo will be just more Green Hill Zone
Meccanical
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Yeah, Xbone...Xbone ain't looking so hot.
Not that it ever did, but especially now, jesus christ.
Not that it ever did, but especially now, jesus christ.
Seven Force
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I think not liking or caring for the series is completely understandable. Hell, I'm a fan and I tend to shit on all but two or so games in the series.
If any section will be playable, it will be that one.
It is I just wanna hear why.
I like sonic, clearly on some level I am used to hearing why people do not like a game.
ViewtifulJC
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I tried playing KH, but I jumped on with KH2 cuz a friend recommended it.
Whoever thought that intro was a good idea should be slapped cuz you just lost a potential fan after that shit, buddy
Whoever thought that intro was a good idea should be slapped cuz you just lost a potential fan after that shit, buddy
Seven Force
Banned
Haha, true enough.
My issue is that, they keep establishing riku as this awesome guy, but sora rides solo in the protagonists seat in the numbered ones.
Hell KH2:FM still feels like an incomplete game, because a riku story would have shed som light , hell more light than sora's on the plot. Then you have the guy do amazing feats, and save sora on many many occasions, and he can't be played with in the numbered ones?
Shit man, he is the protagonist. Then you find out sora's keyblade is his, but he is so badass, he just got another one. Why , riku that's why.
I understand from like an existential stand point why sora is important, he has super heart powers. And all that warm fuzzy stuff, but from a narrative perspective riku has far more plot behind him and pushes far more plot forward than sora does.
Hell KH2:FM still feels like an incomplete game, because a riku story would have shed som light , hell more light than sora's on the plot. Then you have the guy do amazing feats, and save sora on many many occasions, and he can't be played with in the numbered ones?
Shit man, he is the protagonist. Then you find out sora's keyblade is his, but he is so badass, he just got another one. Why , riku that's why.
I understand from like an existential stand point why sora is important, he has super heart powers. And all that warm fuzzy stuff, but from a narrative perspective riku has far more plot behind him and pushes far more plot forward than sora does.
Meccanical
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Your friend fucked up.
Hot Coldman
Banned
DAT XBONE THREAD
*dies fully erect*
*dies fully erect*
OK, it's pretty awful. I really hope they sort their shit out, fast.
Meccanical
Member
When you want everything, you end up with nothing.
From FaceBook:
Delicious clouds.
Looks like that Facebook post may be linking with this tweet https://twitter.com/RichIGN/status/342338077940936704 Edited since GN is banned
Dark Schala
Eloquent Princess
It probably will be, much like the Sonic Generations demo was like that.
We'll probably get a trailer with some new material, I suppose.
It truly is the best way to disguise a post.
Sure. Hm. I might take that to a PM a little later, if you don't mind. But I did write it down so I don't forget it. I'll write something this evening or tomorrow. It's mostly because I don't want to derail the thread.
I'm sure we'll get into an "agree to disagree" sort of thing, though! Long story short, do bear in mind that I play RPGs moreso for their mechanics and animations as opposed to the narrative (because half the time I don't pay attention to it at all).
Seven Force
Banned
Well, I'll keep my opinion on the series short (since this is really something more suited for the KH thread)
- I don't really care for the plot or the characters involved with it past Chain of Memories. (Birth by Sleep being the only exception) It's just a little too crazy for my liking, and the latest game manages to push it's head up it's own ass even further in those regards. The battle systems employed and the Disney/Square fanservice (Which they thankfully still seem to have a handle on) remains the only reason I still bother with the series.
- I hate the series' tendency to focus on flash over substance. KH2 in particular being a big offender. KH2's battle system has a ton of flashy attacks and a bunch of neat systems behind it, but there's barely any reason to do anything but mash X and triangle because the game focuses more on looking cool than on giving it's combat any depth. KHII Final Mix kind of fixes that, but it's an issue that really shouldn't have happened in the first place. Same goes for KH3D and Flowmotion. Even the dev team for that one protested that it'd mess with game balance, but Nomura insisted on it, and the end result was an easily abused mechanic with little to no balance or depth, not to mention it came at the expense of all of the interesting mechanics from Birth by Sleep. (Which to be honest, is the only KH game I'd ever recommend someone if they were looking for a solid ARPG.)
So yeah... how about that Sonic guy, eh?
- I don't really care for the plot or the characters involved with it past Chain of Memories. (Birth by Sleep being the only exception) It's just a little too crazy for my liking, and the latest game manages to push it's head up it's own ass even further in those regards. The battle systems employed and the Disney/Square fanservice (Which they thankfully still seem to have a handle on) remains the only reason I still bother with the series.
- I hate the series' tendency to focus on flash over substance. KH2 in particular being a big offender. KH2's battle system has a ton of flashy attacks and a bunch of neat systems behind it, but there's barely any reason to do anything but mash X and triangle because the game focuses more on looking cool than on giving it's combat any depth. KHII Final Mix kind of fixes that, but it's an issue that really shouldn't have happened in the first place. Same goes for KH3D and Flowmotion. Even the dev team for that one protested that it'd mess with game balance, but Nomura insisted on it, and the end result was an easily abused mechanic with little to no balance or depth, not to mention it came at the expense of all of the interesting mechanics from Birth by Sleep. (Which to be honest, is the only KH game I'd ever recommend someone if they were looking for a solid ARPG.)
So yeah... how about that Sonic guy, eh?
Meccanical
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KH1 is still the best game overall in the series by far really,IMO.
Dayum shame.
So yeah Sonic X-treme looks good.
Dayum shame.
So yeah Sonic X-treme looks good.
You hate the things I like, I do think there is substance to the combat.
But I won't bother you about it at the moment.
Oh yeah an that sonic guy,.... Well that is a very long conversation.
It probably will be, much like the Sonic Generations demo was like that.
We'll probably get a trailer with some new material, I suppose.
It truly is the best way to disguise a post.
Sure. Hm. I might take that to a PM a little later, if you don't mind. But I did write it down so I don't forget it. I'll write something this evening or tomorrow. It's mostly because I don't want to derail the thread.
I'm sure we'll get into an "agree to disagree" sort of thing, though! Long story short, do bear in mind that I play RPGs moreso for their mechanics and animations as opposed to the narrative (because half the time I don't pay attention to it at all).
Its all good.
Dark Schala
Eloquent Princess
You can always screencap the tweet as well. As usual, I'll keep an eye on the Japanese site and translate stuff if required, but I kinda get the feeling that I won't need to.
There is one new thing on the JP site about Sonic's birthday this year. As usual, there's going to be a celebration (this is on June 23rd). Apparently there might be some talk from the team working on Sonic Lost World, but since this is after E3, I would doubt it'd be new news for us.
I did manage to snatch this off (click on it for a bigger version if you want to use it as a wallpaper, I dunno).
It's good it got cancelled because we get to see how it truly would/should have been!
Seven Force
Banned
ViewtifulJC
Banned
Sonic Lost World |OT| X-Treme as you truly imagined it
Sorry. I'm not very up-to-date with all the different techniques, but I'll take your advice into account next time.
The OT better reference X-Treme. I'll be disappointed if it references Galaxy and not X-Treme.
Pretty excited for this game.
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