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[Draugoth]

Sony Pictures CEO Tony Vinciquerra recently told the Los Angeles Times that “Kraven the Hunter” is “probably the worst launch we had” in the nearly eight years he’s been at the studio, adding: “I still don’t understand, because the film is not a bad film.”

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[MMaRsu]

 

[SJRB]

Head of company that spent hundreds of millions on things says things are in fact great.

Wow, amazing.

 

[Big Baller]

So its not our fault?

 

[LectureMaster]

 

[Hookshot]

I’ve seen worse films than Madam Web but it’s a rubbish film and pointless film.

 

[bitbydeath]

They’re bad but a lot of the other Marvel movies and shows have been just as bad if not worse since End Game.

 

[Sushi_Combo]

 

[Fbh]

Unlike these movies, I'd pay to watch him stream himself watching Madame Web and pretending he is really engaged and having fun for almost 120min

 

[Angry_Megalodon]

It seems that being a useless idiot is a precondition to become CEO at Sony.

 

[Big Baller]

It seems that being a useless idiot is a precondition to become CEO at Sony.

THANK YOU HERMAN

 

[Donald mac Ronald]

Maybe they aren't bad. But Sony didnt get the memo that super hero movies are DOA. Especially ones about jobbers.

 

[WoJ]

These people are dummies.

 

[AJUMP23]

They are bad the press just pointed that out and the public agreed.

They can learn or they can face more consequences.

 

[StreetsofBeige]

I love when desperate employees try to defend their shit products. I guess their thinking is if they put a positive spin on it or bash customers or reviewers, they might squeeze out a 0.5% sales boost before it's gone for good.

 

[nial]

It seems that being a useless idiot is a precondition to become CEO at Sony.

Eh, the other major subsidiaries (SME, SMEJ, SIE, SEC, etc.) do great without much fuss, it's just SPE that needs a management restructuring at this point.

 

[Doom85]

 

[IntentionalPun]

Kraven looks like dumb fun at least to me, will probably watch it someday on a streaming service.

Madame Web on the other hand...

 

[StreetsofBeige]

Kraven looks like dumb fun at least to me, will probably watch it someday on a streaming service.

Madame Web on the other hand...

Watching some YT vids, everyone piled on both movies. But it seemed unanimous that Kraven is a better movie. Some even said the fight scenes are decent. I dont think anyone ever said anything good about Madam Web. Not even an: it's so bad it's good kind of vibe.

 

[Doom85]

Kraven looks like dumb fun at least to me, will probably watch it someday on a streaming service.

Madame Web on the other hand...

Madame Webb at least has four attractive actresses in it, though it didn’t make the movie worth it.

Kraven, I’m not sure I’ll even bother.

 

[gow3isben]

Kraven was fun and enjoyable


There I said it

 

[IntentionalPun]

Madame Webb at least has four attractive actresses in it, though it didn’t make the movie worth it.

Women I can find naked in other movies lol

I really don't watch films for that very often, I have a wife, and a girlfriend, and porn.

Dokata Johnson's acting is a boner killer anyways.

 

[Doom85]

Women I can find naked in other movies lol

I really don't watch films for that very often, I have a wife, and a girlfriend, and porn.

Dokata Johnson's acting is a boner killer anyways.

-I don’t watch them for it either, but at least it’s something enjoyable.

-she was great in Bad Times at the el Royale.

 

[Hawk The Slayer]

I just wanted Sweeney to be in her battle suit more instead of it all being in a short vision.

Women I can find naked in other movies lol

I really don't watch films for that very often, I have a wife, and a girlfriend, and porn.

Dokata Johnson's acting is a boner killer anyways.

+1

 

[Fake]

Dumbass. He is luck Playstation is giving this asshole profit.

 

[The Cockatrice]

Spider-Man Villain, no Spider-man. Hmmmmmmmmmmmm I wonder why it failed?

 

[Soodanim]

I know I would be bad heading up a movie studio because I don't have the same tastes as the average consumer.

His personal opinion is his to have, but to say what he said doesn't do him any favours. It gives the impression that he doesn't know what people want. Not good for the head of a studio.

A few bad review makes a difference, but I've just checked Rotten Tomatoes to see what the wider picture is.

Critic score: 16%
"Top Critic" quote from WSJ: "About as exciting as the board meeting from which it surely sprang."

Audience score: 74%
That's quite the difference.

 

[Panajev2001a]

I know I would be bad heading up a movie studio because I don't have the same tastes as the average consumer.

His personal opinion is his to have, but to say what he said doesn't do him any favours. It gives the impression that he doesn't know what people want. Not good for the head of a studio.

A few bad review makes a difference, but I've just checked Rotten Tomatoes to see what the wider picture is.

Critic score: 16%
"Top Critic" quote from WSJ: "About as exciting as the board meeting from which it surely sprang."

Audience score: 74%
That's quite the difference.

But high audience score considering the actual cinema revenue :/.

 

[winjer]

And this mentality is why Sony Film Studios keeps failing...
I'm really surprised how major companies hire complete idiots to run their business.
It didn't use to be like this. There was a time when companies were managed by people that actually understood the importance of delivering high quality products.
At a time when cinema is big chunks of market share to other media, one would expect these companies to be delivering hit after hit, to try to keep being relevant.
But instead, they keep delivering flop after flop, then blaming audiences for not showing up.

 

[GymWolf]

Oste, com'è il vino?

 

[ManaByte]

 

[OmegaSupreme]

Here's hoping we get our precious Sydney in another role where she can wear a skin-tight suit.

 

[Tanus777]

Maybe they should try to do fucking great movies, not simply "not a bad movie"

 

[xrnzaaas]

Madame Webb at least has four attractive actresses in it, though it didn’t make the movie worth it.

They may be attractive actresses, but they're not allowed to have hot scenes or reveal too much skin, likely to avoid making the male audience too horny. Besides if you want to appreciate the beauty of someone like Sydney Sweeney you can watch her in a dozen of other hot roles or simply visit her Instagram.

 

[DeafTourette]

Maybe they aren't bad. But Sony didnt get the memo that super hero movies are DOA. Especially ones about jobbers.

They're not DOA. But the last few Sony movies have been REALLY bad. It doesn't help that no one in the GA knows who these characters are and that they can usually see it LOOKS bad quality story wise from the trailers.

Guardians 3, Spider-Man 3, Deadpool and Wolverine all made pretty good bank and were well received by the GA. They'll come out for a movie they like... They won't come out if it's all "My mother was studying spiders in South America while she was pregnant with me" or whatever Dakota Johnson said in the opening of that Madame Web trailer. LoL

 

[Laptop1991]

Makes a change from the customer's and fans fault, but still the same blame shifting as in never their fault, so nothing will change if the movie industry keeps employing people who can't or won't make enjoyable film's for the masses.

 

[Reizo Ryuu]

I enjoyed the first half of madame web because it was basically final destination lite, they should've just gone all in on that and have them all die gruesome deaths; would've been a whole lot more entertaining than the final product.
Kraven was fine as an action movie, but it's a terrible kraven movie.

 

[March Climber]

I read into this more and it seems he doesn't understand what a 'so bad it's funny/good' movie is. It's usually not a good thing and it's usually a movie that sells horribly and is niche.

He is confused about why the streaming numbers of these movies were much more substantial than the ticket numbers. I had friends who watched Madame Web on Netflix out of sheer curiosity, not because they were itching to see it.

 

[Badlucktroll]

Wonder what they are going to do next. Stegron the dinosaur man? Big Wheel? Mr. Slyde?

 

[nush]

I really don't watch films for that very often, I have a wife, and a girlfriend, and porn.

I love my girlfriend but my wife hates her?