Sony is working on a upgraded PSP that includes an internal, 50-gigabyte hard drive

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" One speaker (Michael Pachter of Wedbush Morgan Securities) at the “Positioning for Profitability in the Video Game Economy” conference we attended yesterday let on that he had heard that Sony is working on a flavor of the PSP that includes an internal, 50-gigabyte hard drive. A prototype of the new portable might by out by year-end, but mass production of the new device probably would not happen until next year, he said. Could this mobile multimedia device viably challenge the iPod?"

http://www.joystiq.com/entry/1234000827033322/
 
Ghost said:
Why would it need a 50gig HDD? thats overkill.



Not for music. I have a 40GB iPod that's almost full because I encode a lot of my music in a lossless format. One album can take up 2 gigs+.
 
Reanimated said:
Not for music. I have a 40GB iPod that's almost full because I encode a lot of my music in a lossless format.
Is it even worth it on a machine that has only analogue outputs? I have an iPod Mini and I seldom worry about the space. I just delete something old off it and put my new album on. Even with 2 gig albums you could fit 20 on your iPod. I bet you can't listen to all that off one charge :)
 
There is a VERY noticible difference in the sound quality. Plus I have a VERY expensive set of headphones.

As for charging - I use my iPod mostly at work, so charging really isn't an issue.
 
I'd buy one in a flash. It makes sense too, with more companies coming out with media players.

It'd need to be flexible in formats though - divx/xvid/wmv/mp4.
 
Reanimated said:
Not for music. I have a 40GB iPod that's almost full because I encode a lot of my music in a lossless format. One album can take up 2 gigs+.
What kind of crazy encoding scheme makes a 700M CD take up 2G+?
 
The 50GB HDD is quite possibly cheaper to make than a 20GB HDD.. I dunno. I would argue that there's no point for it to be smaller than 50GB.
 
Pug said:
By the way to slam a 50 meg mini drive into the PSP would require a major redesign I'd suspect.
Put it underneath the buttons, so that you can only press them at a 62 degree angle.
 
Ghost said:
Why would it need a 50gig HDD? thats overkill.


????

People are buying 1GB memory sticks for $120 (some people multiple sticks) just to watch a movie or two. You could have your own freaking movie theatre with 50GB. :D
 
A lot of the stuff I have is live recordings taken straight off the soundboards at concerts and natively encoded in FLAC @ 1400kbps. Then there's other stuff that I've downloaded from antsmarching.org and some other music sites that were FLAC or Apple Lossless format. I'm not talking about CDs, although a CD will balloon when you rip and convert to lossless.
 
BugCatcher said:
What kind of crazy encoding scheme makes a 700M CD take up 2G+?

I was gonna post the same question :)
Unless the album is multiple cd's
Even then, a lossless codec still cuts the size a little bit I thought.

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I still don't get how converting a cd to a lossless codec would make the file size bigger...
 
Reanimated said:
although a CD will balloon when you rip and convert to lossless.
No it won't - that would defeat the whole concept of you know - digital storage media. Raw WAV will stay exactly the same size, and if you can use Flac or similar scheme, it will be a good 40-50% smaller.

Admitedly, recording at some insane bitrate straight off soundboards is another matter, but compared to that, standard CD music quality would be considered "low" by many audiophilles.
 
Good idea. Treat this thing like an ipod and just keep updating every year. If they are going to stay true to that whole 10 year lifespan thing or whatever, updates like these are all that is needed to keep the thing fresh. I wish the GBA:SP had continued getting updates, like hardware based sleep modes and more on board functions, but I guess that shit doesn't happen in the handheld ghetto :p
 
Reanimated said:
That would rawk, but I'd hate to buy a PSP now and have that thing come out a year later.

Indeed.

I'm picking up a PSP in March, but if this thing ever comes out, chances are I'll pick one up and ebay my ipod and previous PSP.
 
Reanimated said:
Not for music. I have a 40GB iPod that's almost full because I encode a lot of my music in a lossless format. One album can take up 2 gigs+.

What lossless format does the iPod support? I wasn't aware of one. I'm using a Rio Karma and it supports both Ogg and FLAC, which sound amazing, but the last time I checked, iPod didn't support either. Oh yeah, and gapless playback is awesome too! :D
 
HD is obvious. Wonder where the Memory stick fanboys are now? :lol

This is a good idea. Hopefully they make it smaller and make it a clam shell too. All this should ensure that GB next never takes off.
 
Not sure about this. It would increase the cost by some way, and would make the PSP much bigger and bulkier than it actually is. Also unless they've developed a thin drive now I do recall the 40GB iPod being thicker than the rest because it needed two heads; that'd only make a 50GB PSP even thicker.

And what for? Music is an extra on the PSP, not a main feature deserving of such an expensive hardware addition. Movies is possible to position the PSP as the best PMP ever, but the addition of a big HD is going to make it more expensive and bulkier than the rest (probably). Games? I don't see that. Ripping games on to any media -- even an internal HD -- is just inviting piracy.
 
Kung Fu Jedi said:
What lossless format does the iPod support? I wasn't aware of one. I'm using a Rio Karma and it supports both Ogg and FLAC, which sound amazing, but the last time I checked, iPod didn't support either. Oh yeah, and gapless playback is awesome too! :D


Apple Losselss.
 
Pug said:
I wonder if this has got anything to do with the rumours regarding the detecable Xbox harddrive?
Or maybe it has more to do with the GENERAL consumer electronics trend that's finding use for large HDDs in a number of devices that support multimedia content. The PSP already has the capability via the Memory Stick to be detected as a removable drive, just not as a larger capacity one, given the max size of Memsticks at the moment.
 
I think this is just to position themselves in the portable media player market. PSP has some of those features but I wouldn't be surprised if this particular model has better support in non-game related features.
 
Amongst my friends it's a well known fact I'm not a great fan of the iPod or the Apple company in general outside of the fact it's apparently required to do anything worth speaking of in the area of graphical design and what not.

If you were to offer me something that 1. Played games on par with a PS2 2. Allowed me to view media 3. Didn't require memory sticks thanks to a 50 gig drive. I'd be willing to pay a bit more than $200 for it, at Target we're selling 40gig iPods for damn near $400 and that's not even the limited edition U2 iPod. If this rumor turns out to be more than just that then Sony will be sitting pretty, having established itself not only in the portable gaming market but also the MP3 player market. Nintendo won't be happy and neither will Apple, two competitors with one stone, not bad at all.
 
ElyrionX said:
FIXED.

And Sony pulls a Nintendo!!

I still hate Nintendo for pulling that goddamn GBA/GBA SP shit on us. I am NEVER buying another Nintendo handheld EVER AGAIN.


The GBA SP was probably the best product revision in the history of gaming. Damn THEM!
 
Until the PSP was released, GBA SP was my favourite piece of gaming hardware ever. The only thing it lacks is a headphone jack.
 
re: Bulk...What's the state of technology now related to Toshiba's work on .85 inch micro HDDs? Last year they were just debuting with 2-4 gig capacities, right? So I'm guessing we won't be seeing 50 gig drives this small for awhile. I guess some added bulk is an unavoidable downside, if they're going to implement such a thing within the next year or so.
 
I'll take this rumor with a major grain of salt. I'm not saying Sony won't release a PSP with an HD at some point, but I don't see it happening any time soon. For one thing, what would it do to the cost of the machine? The design? And of course, with low battery life already, what would adding a HD do? They need to address the battery issue first, and yes, I know they are planning to do that, but I won't hold my breath waiting for PSP Rev. 1 with the HD added.
 
sonycowboy said:
The GBA SP was probably the best product revision in the history of gaming. Damn THEM!

Sure and what happened to your GBA after you bought the SP?

The reason why the goddamn GBA SP is the "best product revision in the history of gaming" is because the GBA was obviously a piece of broken hardware. Nintendo probably knew that (how can they not know?) and released it anyway. So I spent money on something that is obviously broke and then they proceeded to release a new one like less than a year later. Way to go.
 
The tech isnt an issue. Its all here now. Phones will have them in this year. If a phone can do it then surely anything else can. Phones are the biggest headache when it comes to implementing due to having so much to fit in.

Another good idea could be is adding bluetooth. Transfer stuff to and from your phone, like camera pictures and file storage.
 
If this would happen, then I would have to revise my comments about the PSP being a gaming machine that can do a few other things.

It could be the ultimate portable, like Sony wishes it to be.
 
ElyrionX said:
So I spent money on something that is obviously broke and then they proceeded to release a new one like less than a year later. Way to go.
Well, it was 2 years actually. And really nothing new for Nintendo.

Game Boy Pocket: June 1996
Game Boy Color: November 1998
Game Boy Advance: June 2001
Game Boy Advance SP: March 2003
Nintendo DS: November 2004

... you really should've known better if you expected them not to have a revsion ready in 2-3 years time. Hell, there's already a DS revision planned and new Game Boy coming.
 
jarrod said:
Well, it was 2 years actually. And really nothing new for Nintendo.

Game Boy Pocket: June 1996
Game Boy Color: November 1998
Game Boy Advance: June 2001
Game Boy Advance SP: March 2003
Nintendo DS: November 2004

... you really should've known better if you expected them not to have a revsion ready in 2-3 years time. Hell, there's already a DS revision planned and new Game Boy coming.

The sad thing about all this is that Nintendo was sitting on the GBA because of the success of the GBC so they had plenty of time to incorporate the SP design. It was just a way for them to resell the same product again at a nice profit by not fixing some glaring flaws in the original design right away.

I may hold off on a PSP now to see if this PSPHD edition comes to fruition.
 
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