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Speeding the right way

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Bishman

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I recently got a speeding ticket and it pisses me off that when I am on the road, everyone is not following the speeding limit. Feel like such a turtle on the road now. Any tips on how to speed without getting caught by the cops?
 

demon

I don't mean to alarm you but you have dogs on your face
Whatever it is, I do it. I'm 23 and have been speeding since 16/17, and I've never gotten pulled over. I don't know what it is I'm doing right. Hell, earlier today I went 110-120 for half a minute on a somewhat open highway just for shits'n'giggles, and the only bacon I smelled today was in my BLT. I guess you just have to keep a good eye out.
 

AlphaSnake

...and that, kids, was the first time I sucked a dick for crack
Bishman said:
I recently got a speeding ticket and it pisses me off that when I am on the road, everyone is not following the speeding limit. Feel like such a turtle on the road now. Any tips on how to speed without getting caught by the cops?

Find out what your highway cops use for radars. New wave laser radars or primitive 'Ka' or K' radar signals. If it's the later, get yourself a Valentine One radar detector -- best one on the market.
 

pj

Banned
Just learn where they hang out, most cops aren't smart enough to change up their speed traps.
 

demon

I don't mean to alarm you but you have dogs on your face
AlphaSnake said:
Find out what your highway cops use for radars. New wave laser radars or primitive 'Ka' or K' radar signals. If it's the later, get yourself a Valentine One radar detector -- best one on the market.
How do you find that out?
 

Triumph

Banned
I dunno, I don't go more than 10-15 miles an hour over the limit. A good rule of thumb is to not be the fastest moving car on the road. I've never had a speeding ticket or been in an accident where I was at fault either.
 
There's a 5 mph margin of error given on guns by police departments, so 5 over is safe. 10 over IS speeding.

So if youre alone, 3-5 over. If youre with 3 or more, go with the flow of traffic.
 

Zaptruder

Banned
there's also a margin of error allowed on your speedometer... so assuming your speedo is right, then you can exploit that margin...

that said, I've been caught for going 1km/h over that margin before... but it was pretty fucking bullshit; going from a 70km/h to 60km/h section on a long straight road with few cars around me; and the sign before they hit me was a 70km/h sign (the sign after was a 60km/h sign) (I was travelling 67km/h, the limit was 60km/h... +6km/h for the speedo error).
 

bjork

Member
You know those mirror things that let you see behind you, and those big window things to your sides and in front of you?

Use those.

It's not too difficult to spot a cop car, as the flow of traffic typically slows for like 1/4 mile before and after.
 

lexy

Member
teiresias said:
But also make sure such detectors are not illegal in your state.

What happens if you get caught with a radar that's illegal in your state? How would they even know you had one?

triste said:
It's not too difficult to spot a cop car, as the flow of traffic typically slows for like 1/4 mile before and after.

Not all police cars look alike. In fact, I'm almost certain that they are intentionally trying to make them look like regular cars nowadays.
 

bjork

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loxy said:
Not all police cars look alike. In fact, I'm almost certain that they are intentionally trying to make them look like regular cars nowadays.

Even so, anyone with even a limited amount of drivign experience should be able to see a sudden shift in traffic flow and adjust accordingly. If I can do it in So Cal (and I'm a pretty dangerous/aggressive driver) and not be caught, I'd like to think everyone can.

Though, I've driven without license plates for almost a year and I've not been pulled over for that either, so perhaps I'm just slick. :D
 

DarienA

The black man everyone at Activision can agree on
Darien's Tips for Speeding:

1. Don't be the only car in the passing lane.
2. If you are with a group of speeding cars try not to be the lead car(unless you're an organized group that takes turns being the leader).
3. USE your mirrors. Look for brake lights up ahead for no reason, look down the road behind you and note if all the sudden people way down are diving to the inside lane.
4. Try not to speed in the passing lane.(ie. use the passing lane to pass... then get back in the right lane, you stick out less), however:
5. Don't aggressively weave through traffic.(makes you stick out).

Actually #3 should really be #1. Other folks on the road will generally give away speed traps for you.

Other folks feel free to add their's.
 
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Deleted member 1235

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demon said:
How do you find that out?

buy one, then speed like fuck. If it goes off before a policeman, you win!

speeding is a real big deal in NZ, there are heaps of adds because of all the unneccessary deaths it causes. I guess we don't really have highways though.
 

Zensetsu

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Easiest way not to get caught is to not speed. You're an idiot if you speed anywhere near a city or town anyway...the only time i speed is when i'm out in the middle of nowhere on a long drive. (yay Australia)

All the time when i'm driving to University in the mornings i see these people that speed in the middle of the city: they pull away super fast from the traffic lights and speed like retards down the road then i see them again at the next lot of traffic lights (and at the next lot of traffic lights, and the next etc). So stupid. I laugh and point when i see them get pulled over. :lol
 

AlphaSnake

...and that, kids, was the first time I sucked a dick for crack
triste said:
You know those mirror things that let you see behind you, and those big window things to your sides and in front of you?

Use those.

It's not too difficult to spot a cop car, as the flow of traffic typically slows for like 1/4 mile before and after.

Umm...you do realize how many highway cops use helicopters and jets and high-end lasers and various hiding techniques where they can catch you speeding way before you even see the cop? People get pulled over and told they were speeding 3 miles back, as opposed to a regular cop catching you with a regular radar. Try to spot highway patrol hiding here in Long Island or in NYC, go ahead.

Basically what Darien said is key; only break the limit if a whole pack of other cars are. Don't be the only car in the passing lane doing 70 in a 50, you'll get axed. But if others are doing 70, then you're good to go.
 

AirBrian

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I also agree that being in the "pack" is vital to not getting caught. Do not be the first car speeding, but don't be last car of the "pack" either.

And if you're the only car within a quarter-mile, don't speed excessively -- you're only asking for a ticket.
 

Papi

Member
I was thinking about this yesterday because recently people have been telling me about getting speeding tickets and i've been speeding for 5 years now and i've never received a ticket. I've done some incredibly stupid things on the road and i'm so lucky to be alive.
There's no trick. It's all luck.
 

Baron Aloha

A Shining Example
1. Stay within 25 miles of the speed limit. 25+ miles over the speed limit is wreckless driving and they WILL pull you over and arrest you.

2. Stay in the same lane (don't be aggressive). Most cops will tell you that if there are two cars speeding and one of them is changing lanes frequently but the other one isn't they will pull over the car that is changing lanes first. This is true even if the guy staying in one lane is going 10 MPH faster than the guy changing lanes.
 

fallout

Member
DarienA said:
Darien's Tips for Speeding:

1. Don't be the only car in the passing lane.
2. If you are with a group of speeding cars try not to be the lead car(unless you're an organized group that takes turns being the leader).
3. USE your mirrors. Look for brake lights up ahead for no reason, look down the road behind you and note if all the sudden people way down are diving to the inside lane.
4. Try not to speed in the passing lane.(ie. use the passing lane to pass... then get back in the right lane, you stick out less), however:
5. Don't aggressively weave through traffic.(makes you stick out).
6. More cowbell.
 

darscot

Member
Do not own a red car! I had one once and I will never again. It just catches a cops eye and looks like you going way faster then you are. The type of car you drive makes all the difference. When I had a VW Van I could cruise by a police speed trap doing 80K in a 50 and the cop would never come after me. Doing 55K in a 50 in a red car and your done for. I own a Smart car now and went by a parked cop the other doing about 130 in an 80 and he never came after me.
 

demon

I don't mean to alarm you but you have dogs on your face
darscot said:
Do not own a red car! I had one once and I will never again. It just catches a cops eye and looks like you going way faster then you are. The type of car you drive makes all the difference. When I had a VW Van I could cruise by a police speed trap doing 80K in a 50 and the cop would never come after me. Doing 55K in a 50 in a red car and your done for. I own a Smart car now and went by a parked cop the other doing about 130 in an 80 and he never came after me.
Shit. My car:

97hon1.jpg


I really should have looked a bit harder for a black one. That's the color I wanted anyway. That or silver.
 

Bishman

Member
darscot said:
Do not own a red car! I had one once and I will never again. It just catches a cops eye and looks like you going way faster then you are. The type of car you drive makes all the difference. When I had a VW Van I could cruise by a police speed trap doing 80K in a 50 and the cop would never come after me. Doing 55K in a 50 in a red car and your done for. I own a Smart car now and went by a parked cop the other doing about 130 in an 80 and he never came after me.
Hahaha. My Mazda Protege is red. :(
 
Black Focus = invincible. Ive only been pulled over once, and that was because I was speeding ALONE ON THE ROAD. I chock that one up to me being stupid.
 

Bishman

Member
iapetus said:
Just don't speed. You're not in that much of a hurry to get there, and you get better fuel efficiency.
Fuel efficiency? What is the standard speed for good fuel efficiency?

Lathentar said:
Its entirely true though. Insurance rates are higher for red cars.
Could you give a ranking of colors?
 

DarienA

The black man everyone at Activision can agree on
AlphaSnake said:
The color of a car? That's the dumbest thing I've ever heard.

It's true dood. In various articles in various car mags over the years it's been referenced that certain colors troopers naturally gravitate towards watching.
 

Macam

Banned
I've haven't had a ticket in 2 years and counting so far (down from around 10 in the years prior), and it's really just come down to a few things for the most part.

1. Radar detectors only do so much good; Valentine One's are the best on the market but pricey as hell, and ones you see at Best Buy and co. are generally garbage. I'd only advise even using one if you take a lot of extensive road trips or drive long distances in the country, as otherwise you're better off without one since it reduces your dependence on it and forces you to pay attention. I even got a speeding ticket once when my radar detector gave me ample warning because I was too dependent on it; most cops don't use X-band anymore. Not here, anyway.

2. Use your mirrors and traffic. People here are right for the most part: other cars will give speed traps away. Pay attention to when people brake, when they brake, and look for speed traps as cops tend to re-use the same ones, and only vary it slightly. Most will use freeway overpasses as cover or sit in the shade. I can't stress that fact enough: cops will re-use the same traps over and over. Despite the fact that the city could make a fortune if they kept a unit or two here by the freeway entrance ramps from downtown on weekend nights, they never do; they keep a few miles north waiting like spiders in the open where everyone knows they'll be, so to they can act sober and slow down....so I do them the favor and call super drunk bastards in. Also, keep in mind cops can come on the freeway behind you, and slow down when you go up or down hills -- if you can't see the road ahead, slow down.

3. Stick within a speeding margin. I rarely go more than 15mph over because I can quickly slow down from that speed without jamming on my brakes. If you want to go higher than that, you better be reading the traffic really well and checking your mirrors frequently because you're asking for problems when you do see a cop.

And for the record, don't run from cops.
 

AlphaSnake

...and that, kids, was the first time I sucked a dick for crack
Sokar said:
Not as dumb as law enforcement using jets with lasers to try and catch speeders. :lol

Are you serious? I remember from Virginia Beach to Kentucky there are road signs posted: "Speed detected by laser via Jet."
 
All the tips I could come up with have already been said. One of my friends just bought a radar detector for his car (I don't know what brand) and he gets from where we live on Long Island (about an hour from NYC) to Albany in about 3 hours. He just made it back this weekend in 2 and a half hours. He's just a moron though, and he has a PBA card that he uses to get out of tickets anyway.

Speaking of the color of your car or the model and how it attracts cops...I don't think my car does...

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Wendo

Vasectomember
demon said:
Shit. My car:

97hon1.jpg


I really should have looked a bit harder for a black one. That's the color I wanted anyway. That or silver.

Dude, you drive a Prelude?! Awesome.
 
AlphaSnake said:
Are you serious? I remember from Virginia Beach to Kentucky there are road signs posted: "Speed detected by laser via Jet."

Sounds like BS to me.

So you're telling me a Jet that cruises at 600MPH are used to track speeding cars with lidar? :lol
 
BuG said:
Stop speeding you fuck.
DITTO.

triste said:
Even so, anyone with even a limited amount of drivign experience should be able to see a sudden shift in traffic flow and adjust accordingly. If I can do it in So Cal (and I'm a pretty dangerous/aggressive driver) and not be caught, I'd like to think everyone can.

Though, I've driven without license plates for almost a year and I've not been pulled over for that either, so perhaps I'm just slick. :D
you're a son of a bitch; just thought you should know that. there is not a good reason to speed and/or drive aggressively, especially in a highly-populated area like south california
 

levious

That throwing stick stunt of yours has boomeranged on us.
DarienA said:
Darien's Tips for Speeding:

1. Don't be the only car in the passing lane.
2. If you are with a group of speeding cars try not to be the lead car(unless you're an organized group that takes turns being the leader).
3. USE your mirrors. Look for brake lights up ahead for no reason, look down the road behind you and note if all the sudden people way down are diving to the inside lane.
4. Try not to speed in the passing lane.(ie. use the passing lane to pass... then get back in the right lane, you stick out less), however:
5. Don't aggressively weave through traffic.(makes you stick out).

you forgot:

6. Be white.

It helps in a lot of areas. In three years I lived in south Texas I got pulled over like 8 times. Two times I was given a sobriety test in the middle of the day commuting from school. Only twice did I get tickets, both for going less than 5 over the limit.

And it's not a white cop thing either, most of the cops were hispanic like me.
 

Cooper

Member
triste said:
If I can do it in So Cal (and I'm a pretty dangerous/aggressive driver) and not be caught, I'd like to think everyone can.

That doesn't mean much. California is known for having some of the nation's most strict anti-speed trap laws.
 

AlphaSnake

...and that, kids, was the first time I sucked a dick for crack
Sokar said:
Sounds like BS to me.

So you're telling me a Jet that cruises at 600MPH are used to track speeding cars with lidar? :lol

Uhhh, ok...but it's a fact that certain states do this.
 
go with the flow of traffic , doent be the speeder leading the pack. i go at max 6-7 mph over the limit if no one else is speeding. also know where cops like to sit and which area is a hot spot for them. i believe there is a site on the net wher people report police hot spots for all interstates. its best to take a look at that before travelling a long distance
 

djtiesto

is beloved, despite what anyone might say
LOL, a bunch of the people giving speeding advice are from LI... I don't think anybody does any less than 80MPH on the highways here :p One thing I'll advise, if you travel a highway frequently, memorize the spots where there's a split in the seperator, and a small road connecting west/east (for cops to use to turn around) - they frequently hang out here. And if you might be speeding and you think a cop might see you, don't jam on your brakes... take your foot off the gas, and slow down gradually to the proper speed limit.

PuertoRicanJuice and AlphaSnake - hope you don't mind me asking but what town do you guys live in?
 

mrmyth

Member
Bishman said:
Fuel efficiency? What is the standard speed for good fuel efficiency?


Could you give a ranking of colors?



Basically just stay the fuck away from red. Yellow is a close second. Silver is more invisible than white. I've blown past a hidden speed trap one more than one occasion in my silver truck and the cop never pulled out.

Here's another thing - if you find yourself in traffic with a cop, MAKE EYE CONTACT. They'll wonder what the fuck your problem is, but you won't appear shady to them. One of my female friend's BF used to tell me he hated when people slowed down around him. He'd use the time to evaluate who looked like they were hiding something, and on came the worklights. He also said never brake. Coasting makes you look like you were't speeding in the first place, and if the cop doesn't have the radar on you, he isn't going to notice as long as you weren't flying.


I haven't had a ticket in three years. And Chicagoland is king of the 'speed tax'.
 

Justin Bailey

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AlphaSnake said:
Are you serious? I remember from Virginia Beach to Kentucky there are road signs posted: "Speed detected by laser via Jet."
I've been though VA plenty of times. The signs say "Speed limit enforced by aircraft" - not jet.
 

levious

That throwing stick stunt of yours has boomeranged on us.
AlphaSnake said:
Uhhh, ok...but it's a fact that certain states do this.

Any sign I've ever seen said "aircraft" and most programs I've heard of used helicopters or small planes. You sure you read "jet?"

edit: sorry, didn't notice Justin's post.
 

demon

I don't mean to alarm you but you have dogs on your face
Wendo said:
Dude, you drive a Prelude?! Awesome.
[Jules Winnfield]Shitchyeah. 98 Prelude. Although right now it looks kinda shitty because I haven't washed it in months and some drunk buttfucker bent the hell out of my door while pulling out of a parking space. Luckily I was there when it happened...
 
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