You should try out each race and decide which one you enjoy the most, then work on improving at playing it. They all have some very distinct differences.
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//: StarCraft II: Heart of the Swarm |OT| Like Riding a Bike
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unknownstranger
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Zerg probably takes the most micro and possibly the most macro to get decent at. Terran is more about continuously making units and getting good with drops unless you go mech (and even then hellbat drops can be great). Protoss is basically building a death ball and 1-Aing things.
Pollux
Member
Fair enough.
Sorry, but I understood nothing you just said except micro/macro. But what's the difference in micro/macroing zerg vs. terran?
unknownstranger
Member
Zerg is the hardest to get good at, Protoss is the easiest by far, and Terran is about in the middle (closer to Zerg) more or less.
Micro is things like keeping up on larva injects and spreading creep. The main micro for Terran is kiting slower units and splitting Marines. Macro is building more bases and raising your worker count constantly.
Pollux
Member
Starcraft is honestly the easiest game in the world to learn, in the sense that it's - build bases, make units, kill the other guy. But it is seriously the hardest thing i've ever tried to learn.
unknownstranger
Member
Loving 3vs3 AI. Just beat 2 elite and 1 very hard AI. Hardest thing is to live through the early push. Gonna place more spines around my 2nd to start.
Almost every Protoss I'm grouped with ends up cannon rushing like my last game, but one of the AI Zerg 6 pooled XD.
Almost every Protoss I'm grouped with ends up cannon rushing like my last game, but one of the AI Zerg 6 pooled XD.
TheDailyDot said:
Sickest news ever. Couldn't be happier for viOLet. Would've been a damn shame if he retired over immigration issues. I hope this triggers his reemergence so he gets picked up by a team. I know a lot of Zergs fell off after HotS was released but this guy is legit. Glad he's getting another shot.
Crimsonlink
Member
Sickest news ever. Couldn't be happier for viOLet. Would've been a damn shame if he retired over immigration issues. I hope this triggers his reemergence so he gets picked up by a team. I know a lot of Zergs fell off after HotS was released but this guy is legit. Glad he's getting another shot.
Isn't Violet still part of Azubu? Maybe a good team will pick him up.
AdventureRacing
Member
Scarlett is streaming, pretty fun to watch especially with cella giving advice in the background 
. Shame i'm so bloody tired after work and gotta be up early in the morning.
This isn't universally true and it depends what you mean by 'good'. Personally i think zerg is BY FAR the easiest to learn. I found it harder to start off with when i switched to protoss, i actually had to learn build orders instead of just doing whatever i wanted.
So far of the 3 races i've tried terran is the hardest. It's hard to tell if it's because they are just harder to play or if it's because it's hard to get used to after playing so much Z and T.
. Shame i'm so bloody tired after work and gotta be up early in the morning.This isn't universally true and it depends what you mean by 'good'. Personally i think zerg is BY FAR the easiest to learn. I found it harder to start off with when i switched to protoss, i actually had to learn build orders instead of just doing whatever i wanted.
So far of the 3 races i've tried terran is the hardest. It's hard to tell if it's because they are just harder to play or if it's because it's hard to get used to after playing so much Z and T.
2/2 protoss army with a 20 food advantage beats 1/0 terran army and some bunkers.
Yoshichan
And they made him a Lord of Cinder. Not for virtue, but for might. Such is a lord, I suppose. But here I ask. Do we have a sodding chance?
Terran should still win because fuck protoss!
BAsetrade TV has TLO v Sjow Bo7 on right now.
This female caster, Zombiegrub, is pretty good. Certainly among the better casters in the SCII scene.
http://www.twitch.tv/basetradetv
This female caster, Zombiegrub, is pretty good. Certainly among the better casters in the SCII scene.
http://www.twitch.tv/basetradetv
Corran Horn
May the Schwartz be with you
my name is cody
like the person sleeping with your mom
like the person sleeping with your mom
Yoshichan
And they made him a Lord of Cinder. Not for virtue, but for might. Such is a lord, I suppose. But here I ask. Do we have a sodding chance?
Wow, you too?!
The fact that it's a female streaming probably makes it worse, that and a severe lack of moderation.
Him, me, both at the same time.
Corran Horn
May the Schwartz be with you
-COOLIO-
The Everyman
Feel bad because he helped so much with builds and macro. I wish him luck with his future in other things/games.
I won against a protoss. I feel pretty good. Felt like an accomplishment considering I almost died.
heart wrenching stuff. just goes to show you that investing your life into a sport that changes every few months isn't really a good call.
and that tvp is a load of bs
-COOLIO-
The Everyman
infantry armor doesn't do much for marines inside bunkers, and ya there's a food advantage but there we're talking about 5 bunkers right? thats 500 minerals which is 10 food of marines if we're contrasting and comparing. additionally, unless both sides are maxed, the protoss will usually have a good food advantage because they'll warp in a round of whatever right before an attack.
and even still, this wouldn't look so stupid if it were at least close. avilo had way better micro than the toss in this encounter, that's unarguable, and the toss attacked right into walled off static d with an a move and didn't just win, but stomped the terran defense with an a move.
of course there's a ton of things avilo could have done to beat this guy, but toss is flat out easier to play, for better or worse. they're generally beatable, but easier to play. if you're just playing the game for fun though, it's not a big deal just mildly frustrating at times. but you're playing for the challenge, right? and toss is a helluva challenge.
Oz, Revival, aLive all done with EG.
http://evilgeniuses.gg/Read/218,Change-Comes-to-Evil-Geniuses-StarCraft-II-Division/
http://evilgeniuses.gg/Read/218,Change-Comes-to-Evil-Geniuses-StarCraft-II-Division/
unknownstranger
Member
Strategy that seems to work best for me against AI is constant Swarm Host pressure and then tech switching to Mutas. Gotten good with my creep spread, but no idea how good it'd be against players.
Crimsonlink
Member
Maru and sOs have joined Jin Air Green.... ;_;
PRIME NO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! MKP Please come back and save them. Also Soulkey to SKT1.
Check Liquid, I'm so sad that I can't link the articles. ;_;
Like now I have to cheer for Jin Air Green each time Maru plays. Its gonna be so awkward when Prime and Jin Air play for me. ;_;
PRIME NO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! MKP Please come back and save them. Also Soulkey to SKT1.
Check Liquid, I'm so sad that I can't link the articles. ;_;
Like now I have to cheer for Jin Air Green each time Maru plays. Its gonna be so awkward when Prime and Jin Air play for me. ;_;
Are you in NA? Lets be practice buddies ;__;
Crimsonlink
Member
You play which race? I'm Terran on NA ladder.
unknownstranger
Member
Yeah. Real ID is Derek#1345
Good lord, SKT is fucking STACKED now! If they get another Terran ace to back up FanTaSy, they should damn well near unbeatable on paper.
So WJS is straight dead now, huh? That's really a shame.
Crimsonlink
Member
I'd say Jin Air and SKT1 are the two teams at the top that can either take 1st place. Mostly cause sOs is good at PvP and Maru is a beast in TvT/TvP. Their Zergs I forget but I think Effort is a good one on their team.
Man I look forward to a Maru vs Rain rematch but its disheartening that its not Maru PRIME anymore... ;_;
Man Byun/Creator vs Maru is gonna be so awkward lol.
Man I look forward to a Maru vs Rain rematch but its disheartening that its not Maru PRIME anymore... ;_;
Man Byun/Creator vs Maru is gonna be so awkward lol.
And wow, this happened too: TL-IM partnership sends HerO back to Proleague
Shame that TaeJa doesn't join him. Don't care all that much for HerO.
Shame that TaeJa doesn't join him. Don't care all that much for HerO.
Crimsonlink
Member
Taeja got the better deal. He can focus on WCS or whatever tourney he wants and win them. HerO is stuck playing for IM for the most part.
Proleague has a ton of PvP is really the only bad thing I can say about it.
Maybe a P nerf will come if enough Ts lose to P lol.
Yoshichan
And they made him a Lord of Cinder. Not for virtue, but for might. Such is a lord, I suppose. But here I ask. Do we have a sodding chance?
MaximusBlack reached GM last night.
His reaction:
http://www.twitch.tv/lagtvmaximusblack/c/3384914
His speech:
http://www.twitch.tv/lagtvmaximusblack/c/3385704
His reaction:
http://www.twitch.tv/lagtvmaximusblack/c/3384914
His speech:
http://www.twitch.tv/lagtvmaximusblack/c/3385704
Been working on my expo timings lately, namely my 3rd and I'm doing SO much better because of it. Previously I'd get in a 'zone' and not get my 3rd up until my main was almost mined out, effectively putting me on 2 bases every game even though I technically had 3.
I'm keeping my unspent resources low, average supply block time has dropped from 50 seconds 10 seconds and everything is falling in place. There's no better feeling in the world then doing better at this game.
Edit: And I just started playing again about a week ago, first thing I noticed was I couldn't click on enemy units/buildings any more. I ask a buddy about this and he only says "Oh yeah, they just made that change." So I thought it was permanent, but last night I'm poking around in the options and see the check box to disable that. What idiot at Blizzard thought ANYONE would want that option to be default???
I'm keeping my unspent resources low, average supply block time has dropped from 50 seconds 10 seconds and everything is falling in place. There's no better feeling in the world then doing better at this game.
Edit: And I just started playing again about a week ago, first thing I noticed was I couldn't click on enemy units/buildings any more. I ask a buddy about this and he only says "Oh yeah, they just made that change." So I thought it was permanent, but last night I'm poking around in the options and see the check box to disable that. What idiot at Blizzard thought ANYONE would want that option to be default???
-COOLIO-
The Everyman
atop a mountain o cheese.
With everything I've heard about the current Kespa teams & SC2 I can't imagine that being a financially beneficial decision for him. The team would be a monster though!
TaeJa will be too busy winning every season of WCS AM to waste his time with Proleague
Yoshichan
And they made him a Lord of Cinder. Not for virtue, but for might. Such is a lord, I suppose. But here I ask. Do we have a sodding chance?
My statistics the past 3 months:
Terran average APM: 187
Terran win rate: 39%
Zerg average APM: 172
Zerg win rate: 42%
Protoss average APM: 134
Protoss win rate: 52%
herp
Terran average APM: 187
Terran win rate: 39%
Zerg average APM: 172
Zerg win rate: 42%
Protoss average APM: 134
Protoss win rate: 52%
herp