mass vikings or rines i guessmr stroke said:Quick Noob question-
I keep getting smoked when playing TvP and someone goes mass Void Rays. What is the best Terran counter for mass Void Rays?
mr stroke said:Quick Noob question-
I keep getting smoked when playing TvP and someone goes mass Void Rays. What is the best Terran counter for mass Void Rays?
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5 base toss...Hugoboss21 said:hahahahha destiny losing to mass roaches
Pandaman said:5 base toss...
doesnt look like losing to me.
Infestor is like the all-purpose zerg backbone nowPandaman said:that game was a good demonstration of why infestors are the way they are.
zerg has no mobile anti air that can attack into voidray supported armies without them.
yep. zergs couldnt walk so blizzard gave them one of those fancy powered chair things rather than attempt surgery.FieryBalrog said:Infestor is like the all-purpose zerg backbone now
yeahQ8D3vil said:me too, they should be nerfed
lol, reapers are the most fucked up unit in the game.finalozzo said:yeah
Q8D3vil said:lol, reapers are the most fucked up unit in the game.
they got nerfed because of fucking 2v2, what a joke.
...Dooraven said:hey flux vanes got removed due to 4v4
the joke is that 5 reapers can kill all your drones in 5 seconds.Q8D3vil said:lol, reapers are the most fucked up unit in the game.
they got nerfed because of fucking 2v2, what a joke.
Pandaman said:people who don't use reapers complaining about them, no shocker there.
reapers are amazing, but terrans dont understand units they cant build 50 of and win with.
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no, flux vanes was removed due to tvp. it was insanely overpowered. a flux vaned void ray was faster or equal speed with anything terran has that can shoot air. this includes stimmed marines.
it was stupid how terrans had to sacc 10 health on the offchance toss wasn't paying attention/misjudged his range and then have the void rays float away without getting touched.
league ?finalozzo said:the joke is that 5 reapers can kill all your drones in 5 seconds.
reapers main problem is the build time imo.people who don't use reapers complaining about them, no shocker there.
reapers are amazing, but terrans dont understand units they cant build 50 of and win with.
yeah i totally agree with that.Haunted said:HotS will not have reapers, you heard it here first.
Haunted said:HotS will not have reapers, you heard it here first.
One interesting note that most StarCraft gamers will want to know is that the Reaper is currently not where Blizzard wants it and will be addressed in Heart of the Swarm. To quote Browder specifically: "The Reaper not in a happy place. It was a bit of a mis-step for us. The players showed us what it was capable of and we nerfed it into obscurity. This will be addressed in Heart of the Swarm."
Sounds like someone's getting a fast ticket to the farm/dog heaven/other euphemism for death.Dooraven said:http://www.gosugamers.net/general/news/14810-dustin-browder-talks-esports-and-hots-at-gdc-2011
I dunno, that quote seems to imply that reapers are still in HoTS
Pandaman said:people who don't use reapers complaining about them, no shocker there.
reapers are amazing, but terrans dont understand units they cant build 50 of and win with.
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no, flux vanes was removed due to tvp. it was insanely overpowered. a flux vaned void ray was faster or equal speed with anything terran has that can shoot air. this includes stimmed marines.
it was stupid how terrans had to sacc 10 health on the offchance toss wasn't paying attention/misjudged his range and then have the void rays float away without getting touched.
remember flux vanes was nerfed twice, original vanes gave void rays a speed of 3.32Hugoboss21 said:i agree that flux vanes was to good, but it wasn't faster then stimmed marines T.T
yea, a speed difference equivalent to that of a slow ovie.Hugoboss21 said:it went from being a stimmed marine speed to not being one
it really wasnt. it was really easy to one base 1 star it into flux and crush pretty much everything at the time. i dont even want to imagine what they could do nowadays.dude i agree that flux vanes was too good but it was a huge commitment getting a fleet beacon where it could be usefull ( early void pressure )
At least they're aware of their shortcomings...Hugoboss21 said:
im not really discussing this, im telling you this. tvp was broken, it was nerfed, problem solved. if colossi did infinity damage you'd still complain they cant attack air.Hugoboss21 said:spending 450/350 JUST for flux vanes? thats a huge commitment
Hugoboss21 said:
Pandaman said:that game was a good demonstration of why infestors are the way they are.
zerg has no mobile anti air that can attack into voidray supported armies without them.
Pandaman said:im not really discussing this, im telling you this. tvp was broken, it was nerfed, problem solved. if colossi did infinity damage you'd still complain they cant attack air.
Hugoboss21 said:WATTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTT
i don't even build colossi in pvt and pvz why would i complain about that, but ya they suck, high templars are just so much better;;;
oh and why the heck do u complain about the overlord so much??? They allrdy do so many fucking things and you want more!?!
no. I told you, 5 seconds. If you have your speedlings at the base ok, if not they will rape your drones.Q8D3vil said:reapers main problem is the build time imo.
if zerg get early speed then its useless.
the problem is that you have to open reaper so you don't know if the zerg is going speed first or fe.
im simply pointing out that the difference is equal to the movespeed of the slowest unit in the game.Hugoboss21 said:oh and why the heck do u complain about the overlord so much??? They allrdy do so many fucking things and you want more!?!
bah, blah, blah holden tells us more how putting the lowest health supply depot thats uniquely disadvantaged by being targettable by air into combat situations and takes the same production as our armies is a good thing.Hugoboss21 said:more like a zerg thing, ur the one complaing all the time the overlord is the slowest unit of the game and the worst drop of the game When it is actually probably the one of the most usefull unit of zerg
why would i have a link from a year ago handy?Dooraven said:Panda you keep on saying Flux Vanes was imbalanced in PvT but I can't find anything on Blizzards patch explanations about that at all, is there any link?
Pandaman said:bah, blah, blah holden tells us more how putting the lowest health supply depot thats uniquely disadvantaged by being targettable by air into combat situations and takes the same production as our armies is a good thing.