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[Pandaman]

I don't get it.

Why aren't they dropping in the 1.4 video?

blizzard wants all zvp's to be roach/hydra/corruptor into GG protoss victory.

 

[Pandaman]

its funny how blizzard is trying its hardest to prevent micro.
instead of forcing protoss to spread and micro their units they are nerfing banelings drops.

dude no, only terran can micro.

terran = micro
zerg = production [lol]
toss = death ball, production

anything that diverges from that must be stopped.

 

[Q8D3vil]

dude no, only terran can micro.

terran = micro
zerg = production [lol]
toss = death ball, production

anything that diverges from that must be stopped.

dunno, there were few games where i saw protoss micro against baneling drops and winning the game because of that.
its like they are taking out the excitement :/

 

[ultron87]

The only Protoss micro that Blizzard thinks is required is force fields.

 

[Pandaman]

The only Protoss micro that Blizzard thinks is required is force fields.

and blink to get over force fields once the enemy is dead.

 

[Pancakes]

The only Protoss micro that Blizzard thinks is required is force fields.

Bu-bu-but blink stalkers and uh... microing templars.

 

[Boken]

WTF.

 

[Q8D3vil]

super robot ost is the best fucking music to listen to while playing sc2 !!!!

and holden is back to bm worst than ever.

 

[Awesome Animals]

super robot ost is the best fucking music to listen to while playing sc2 !!!!

and holden is back to bm worst than ever.

He's 12, he doesn't know any better.

 

[Holden]

devil, emp has no cd btw. don't deny that

 

[Q8D3vil]

devil, emp has no cd btw. don't deny that

i guess you are right, i need to use ghosts more ;P

 

[Holden]

i guess you are right, i need to use ghosts more ;P

no wonder you ur not grandmaster yet;;;

 

[Q8D3vil]

no wonder you ur not grandmaster yet;;;

i'm ok with that, but i'm surprised that you are still in masters.
i thought protoss was not suppose to win :/

 

[Haunted]

blizzard wants all zvp's to be roach/hydra/corruptor into GG protoss victory.

No, I mean I mechanically do not understand the change Blizzard made that causes the banelings not to drop in 1.4.

 

[Pandaman]

No, I mean I mechanically do not understand the change Blizzard made that causes the banelings not to drop in 1.4.

i dunno, i assume its the same principle they did to keep people from casting infested terrans into an island that was already full.

 

[Q8D3vil]

i dunno, i assume its the same principle they did to keep people from casting infested terrans into an island that was already full.

why don't they make baneling explodes immediately when they drop (like bombs), if you don't hit your target then you will lose the baneling for nothing.
seems a better option than this anyway.

 

[Haunted]

i dunno, i assume its the same principle they did to keep people from casting infested terrans into an island that was already full.

But that actually makes sense because there's no more space and there could be all sorts of collision issues. Baneling bombs don't take up any space!

This change is stupid.

 

[ultron87]

Hopefully it's only an issue because the group of zealots in that video are on hold position and standing perfectly packed. Maybe as things are moving around in combat the banes will still get big enough holes to drop in.

Though if a Protoss perfectly forcefields their whole army into a bubble there won't really be any room.

 

[Pandaman]

Hopefully it's only an issue because the group of zealots in that video are on hold position and standing perfectly packed. Maybe as things are moving around in combat the banes will still get big enough holes to drop in.

this is possible.

Though if a Protoss perfectly forcefields their whole army into a bubble there really be any room.

before 14, this was easier said than done as hugo can attest. if you dont do it right, it turns into 5 banelings wiping out your whole army.

 

[zoukka]

No, I mean I mechanically do not understand the change Blizzard made that causes the banelings not to drop in 1.4.

The baneling is not a baneling until it hits ground and recovers all of its properties. That's the technical reason. They don't detonate until they have their collision box full of space to land in.

 

[MrKnives]

Well what can I say.
Don't know if they aimed on giving the advantage back to Protoss but if so I salute you. Success.

Pretty much my only ways to win over Protoss were either Infestors fungal + Neuraling his Colossus or Bling dropping him.

Back to square one.

 

[cdyhybrid]

Back to Protoss or Terran.

It's true!

 

[Boken]

Back to Roach/Hydra/Corruptor you say?

Shit.

 

[Q8D3vil]

if they NP got through then goody will win the gsl.

 

[Haunted]

The baneling is not a baneling until it hits ground and recovers all of its properties. That's the technical reason. They don't detonate until they have their collision box full of space to land in.

Well, now they don't. Worked just fine before. I'm still unclear why they would even attempt to change this.

I've never heard anyone complain about Stalife drops (same concept) or Banelings dropping on a clump of units as something that should not be in the game.

oh well, we'll see.

 

[MrKnives]

On September 13 2011 04:13 Zelniq wrote:
i was bored just now and just tested this in unit tester and it's basically bullshit. Currently (before patch), you can't unload banelings on top of a clumped up army with no gaps, moving drop or no moving drop. the only way it works is if there are tiny gaps in the army. which is why it works in the 'pre-patch 1.4' video.

i need further testing for 100% confidence in this but it seems all this talk is just for nothing..PTR does nothing

...

 

[ultron87]

It does look a little weird in the 1.3 baneling drop video where the baneling actually drops several overlord lengths away from the overlord into the first available hole in the zealot group. They might've just reduced the range that that can happen at.

Edit: Or according to that post nothing was actually changed.

 

[zoukka]

Only increased Ultra range can appease the cerebrates.

 

[Corran Horn]

gg.

see you guys for hots.

you better log in more fool.

 

[Pandaman]

you better log in more fool.

guess it depends how the patch goes through.

 

[Corran Horn]

guess it depends how the patch goes through.

If you dont log in. Ill drive up to canadaland and destroy all your bagged milks. How will you get your milk then...HOW!

 

[Pandaman]

If you dont log in. Ill drive up to canadaland and destroy all your bagged milks. How will you get your milk then...HOW!

in a can.

 

[jasonng]

That was my mission when I went up the Great White North a few weeks back. Trust me, you'd be incredibly distracted by their poutine to care about their bagged milks.

in a can.

Okay, now you're just trolling.

 

[Corky]

Go into your Starcraft II Variables.txt file (Documents>Starcraft II) and add/change these two: frameratecap=60
frameratecapGlue=30

Locks gameplay at 60fps and menus at 30fps

thanks

 

[Q8D3vil]

why are you quitting sc2 panda

infestors still imba

 

[ultron87]

in a can.

 

[Corran Horn]

why are you quitting sc2 panda

infestors still imba

He is like idra, cant use infestors.

 

[ShallNoiseUpon]

If you dont log in. Ill drive up to canadaland and destroy all your bagged milks. How will you get your milk then...HOW!

All it takes to destroy Canada.

 

[Pandaman]

Okay, now you're just trolling.

why are you quitting sc2 panda

infestors still imba

because it would take too much effort to learn another skill based race like terran.
and i have too much self respect to play protoss.

 

[zargle]

why are you quitting sc2 panda

infestors still imba

How can you quit Sc2 when pony threads keep getting locked and shifted? It is your only escape now.

 

[V_Arnold]

because it would take too much effort to learn another skill based race like terran.
and i have too much self respect to play protoss.

It does not take too much effort, I think.
It is fun to struggle again.

I love playing as Terran, even when I got stomped on.
I might as well have stopped playing SCII if it was not for the race change.

I still love Zerg's feel, but learning to play another race is like reliving your childhood

 

[zoukka]

Only fanbois play one race.

 

[profit]

OMG I played EGIdra today on EU ladder and he was top 8 bronze!

....

I really wonder why people do that?

 

[Q8D3vil]

http://i.imgur.com/efrY5.jpg[MG]


because it would take too much effort to learn another skill based race like terran.
and i have too much self respect to play protoss.[/QUOTE]
the baneling drop nerf seems to be fake and np won't make it because of thors.

the only thing i'm afraid of is the immortal all in that require 4 bunkers to survive it.

 

[Pandaman]

the baneling drop nerf seems to be fake and np won't make it because of thors.

the only thing i'm afraid of is the immortal all in that require 4 bunkers to survive it.

I admire your capacity for hope, but i do not share in it.

these 'encouragement' buffs are a problem i dont see going away.

 

[Corran Horn]

the baneling drop nerf seems to be fake and np won't make it because of thors.

the only thing i'm afraid of is the immortal all in that require 4 bunkers to survive it.

Oh noes...a protoss all in that require something that you get 75% of your minerals back.

 

[Haunted]

...

Zelniq is trustworthy.

 

[Q8D3vil]

Oh noes...a protoss all in that require something that you get 75% of your minerals back.

except what am i going to put inside them ? i go mech tvp :/

tanks inside bunkers, make it happen blizzard.

I admire your capacity for hope, but i do not share in it.

these 'encouragement' buffs are a problem i dont see going away.

btw, did you start college ?

 

[jasonng]

because it would take too much effort to learn another skill based race like terran.
and i have too much self respect to play protoss.

IdrA? Is that u?
LOL oh wait, IdrA has too much self respect to play terran. mah bads.

 

[Pancakes]

Sigh, GAF is boring without the Pony thread.

I think I might actually start laddering today .