Interfectum
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Interfectum said:
I'm not sure why you're having so much difficulty understanding that other people dislike games you like.
If someone is looking to spend a couple of dollars this week, I highly recommend Freespace 2 which can be found on GOG for 6$. Combined with the mod community that's still updating the gfx regularly it's an amazing deal.
http://www.hard-light.net/
http://www.hard-light.net/wiki/index.php/Main_Page
(A bit off topic since it's not a steam deal, but oh well)
Stallion Free
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Please explain how you don't like the Left 4 Dead games, I can't think of any reasons on my own. I mean Left 4 Dead 2 was one of my least favorite Valve games, but I still play it and like it far more than most other games. I think I am getting close to ~200 hours in it.
Chris Remo
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Why would you need somebody to explain to you why they don't like a particular game? Who cares?Stallion Free said:
Lasthope106
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Javaman said:
This is exactly how I feel. The first L4D has been my least played game of all the Valve games I own. Even at $25 is still too much. For $20 I could get S.T.A.L.K.E.R. COP, which is a much meatier game than L4D2.
Note: This my own opinion. Disregard the above, if you have enjoyed L4D.
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Chris Remo said:
Because I am curious? Sometimes I get tired of hearing why people are madly in love with a game and like to hear from someone who dislikes it?
Schmattakopf
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Except I'm waiting for the Complete Pack to go on sale.drizzle said:
Plus I didn't get into 360 version of L4D. Granted, I only played through the campaign once and haven't tried the multiplayer.
prodystopian
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Kyouji said:
I might be interested. Please PM me if you can find two others. I have feedback in the buy/sell thread.
zombieshavebrains
I have not used cocaine
Stallion Free said:
So can i gush about why i like both l4d1 and l4d2? Not trying to convince anyone that they SHOULD like it i just have a new found love for them. I could do the same with TF2.
Stallion Free said:
I can't speak for him but I can tell you why I didn't like L4D all that much:
* Dearth of content for a full price release.
* The zombie-rush always felt weird to me.
* I didn't like the way the game director would randomly spike difficulty.
* Didn't enjoy the gunplay that much. Weapons felt wimpy, sorely missed iron-sights.
* Gunplay was too run & gun for me, I prefer more tactical.
* I am really, really, REALLY tired of zombies.
* I thought that the graphics engine is starting to look a bit dated (sorry guys!)
I got the PC version $20 during black friday. I had a good amount of fun with it and feel I got my money's worth. At full price I would've felt a bit ripped off.
Since L4D2 doesn't look to add much more to the mix I'm passing until it's really dirt cheap.
I like wmat's reasons.
Also, it's plenty tactical if you play versus, but I can understand the complaint if you prefer playing co-op.
zwarmsbies is cool ]':
EDIT: Oh, I just read the comment that started all this.
lollolal
The bolded makes no sense. There is plenty of content in L4D. The graphics look perfectly great. God forbid any game not have Crysis levels of graphics or have a world the size of a typical JRPG.nexen said:
Also, it's plenty tactical if you play versus, but I can understand the complaint if you prefer playing co-op.
zwarmsbies is cool ]':
EDIT: Oh, I just read the comment that started all this.
lollolal
zombieshavebrains
I have not used cocaine
John said:
Didn't the game not even ship with dedicated servers or something? I remember they added something to do with servers after the game shipped.
TouchMyBox
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Javaman said:
Shameless excuse to post of picture of my kitten
wolfmat
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In all seriousness, I didn't like L4D because of its focus on coop multiplayer, the wonky difficulty levels (nothing really matched my skill, it was either too hard or too easy), the aggressiveness of the zombies (I'm more of a slow-zombie guy) and the annoying characters. To me, they were all like TF2 dudes who didn't quite make the cut. And I don't like TF2, to make matters worse.
Having said that, by the numbers, it's still a pretty good game, I guess. I'm not stupid enough to argue with that.
Having said that, by the numbers, it's still a pretty good game, I guess. I'm not stupid enough to argue with that.
Awesome.nexen said:
Hey, more power to you if you liked it. I can certainly understand its appeal. The poster was just asking for counter opinions so I oblidged him.Twig said:
As for versus - that was more frustrating than fun for me. Couldn't get the hang of it for some reason. I greatly preferred co-op.
zombieshavebrains
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wmat said:In all seriousness, I didn't like L4D because of its focus on coop multiplayer, the wonky difficulty levels (nothing really matched my skill, it was either too hard or too easy), the aggressiveness of the zombies (I'm more of a slow-zombie guy) and the annoying characters. To me, they were all like TF2 dudes who didn't quite make the cut. And I don't like TF2, to make matters worse.
Having said that, by the numbers, it's still a pretty good game, I guess. I'm not stupid enough to argue with that.
Awesome.
Okay game over...
Lone_Prodigy
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I was one of the L4D2 skeptics. I bought L4D for $25 a few months after the game came out (50% off sale on Steam) and sunk over 100 hours into it. It was fun, but lacked a lot of things: the maps weren't balanced for versus, no collision detection among teammates (leads to a lot of corner camping), Boomer vomit broken beyond heck.
I tried the L4D2 demo and wasn't terribly impressed. New items, new guns, new SI, did they need a new game for this? My friends were buying it though so I waited for a sale and bought it.
The demo doesn't do it justice. The game is a lot better and fixed a lot of the issues with the first game. The new levels are quite good (I like the atmosphere of Heavy Rain (wait isn't that a PS3 game?) and the Parish Bridge finale). I do miss the original cast, but the new characters aren't bad.
I tried the L4D2 demo and wasn't terribly impressed. New items, new guns, new SI, did they need a new game for this? My friends were buying it though so I waited for a sale and bought it.
The demo doesn't do it justice. The game is a lot better and fixed a lot of the issues with the first game. The new levels are quite good (I like the atmosphere of Heavy Rain (wait isn't that a PS3 game?) and the Parish Bridge finale). I do miss the original cast, but the new characters aren't bad.
speculawyer
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Damn . . . that L4D2 4-pack is quite the deal.
Hellsing321
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I'd be interested in joining a L4D2 four pack group if anyone needs an extra person.
potissimus
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I'll send you a PM Hellsing. I also know someone else interested, so post if there's one more out there who wants in on a four pack.
zombieshavebrains
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Lone_Prodigy said:
That happened to me. I couldn't even finish the demo. When i played the Heavy Rain mission i was blown away. I used to live Houston, TX (pretty close to New Orleans) and we would get storms just like that. So to add that with zombies blew me away.
wolfmat
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Stupid achievement shit and cartoon nonsense, coupled with annoying and over-the-top sound effects and gimmicky game modes? Just not my thing.zombieshavebrains said:
Doesn't mean I have a vendetta with TF2 freaks, I just can't stomach what it does. I like FPS games that have medium-to-slow pacing and a realistic theme. My favorite FPS ever is SWAT4. Diff'rent strokes for diff'rent folks.
wolfmat
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Well, it's less the gamemodes themselves, more how they're presented, together with game-specific quirky stuff. The announcer, the flashy stats screen, the weird character specials.. I find all that annoying. It's just not what I want to sink my teeth into. I don't want to actually use the spy how he's supposed to be used, or run around healing dudes with that HP gun.Twig said:
Maybe there's a great game below the presentation layer, but I can't get past it. That while I enjoyed TFC. I think it's really the presentation that annoys me. Especially the character blurbs and the announcer. Drives me nuts.
For content: You can see everything that game has to offer in a single day, yet it cost the same as other Valve titles that took me weeks to burn through. Nothing particularly mind blowing ever really happens in any of the levels either. It's all just more zombies, zombies, zombies + a handful of special zombies. I'm actually for smaller, better games but the cost should come down and the content should be more varied. To make matters worse any sense of pacing is removed by letting the director populate the levels and the sense of overall story arc is damaged due to the episodic nature of the presentation.Twig said:
For engine: I'd really have to sit down and pick it apart again to feel comfortable giving more solid reasons, but it looked dated to me when it first launched. I expected more from a big name like Valve and was disappointed when I finally got my hands on the game. On the plus side I did like the look of the player character models and iirc the shadows were nice.
Had other areas of the game piqued my interest more I could have overlooked any one of these points. It just didn't gel with me.
You're nuts!!!wmat said:
You went through all four campaigns in one day? What did you play on, easy?nexen said:
Moreover, you're treating a multiplayer game, a game that's meant to be played over and over, like it's a single player game. Left 4 Dead is not Half-Life 2 and has never professed itself to be Half-Life 2. The overarching story is... not really supposed to matter at all. I think you're looking for something in this game that it is not trying to be.
And as for the engine complaints, well... we'll just have to agree to disagree. Hating something because it "looks dated" is the most appalling opinion I've ever run across.
But I will not argue further as it's just opinion.
wmat ur still nuts tho
Schmattakopf
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I don't think it was his point, but I got through the whole campaign on Advanced in one day.Twig said:
Twig said:
Hm. I never said I hated it. I said I enjoyed it for $20 and would have felt ripped off if I had paid more than that. I just felt it should have been a bigger game.
And, yes, I did go through all four in one day, unless I'm misremembering.
I've paid L4D's original asking price for games that offered both a lengthy single player game as well as compelling multiplayer with loads more content. (BFBC2 most recently). It just felt like they were offering half a game for the price of a full one to me. That is really my biggest gripe, the more I reflect on it. If I were to pick a game to attack though L4D would be extremely low on my list. I'm only doing so now because someone asked and bitching is fun
gregor7777
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Half Life sucks
Hasphat'sAnts
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gregor7777 said:
YOU suck!
Schmattakopf
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I don't know about dedication. I really couldn't get into it. Finished the campaign and never touched it again.Twig said:
Wickerbasket
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L4D wasn't "pick up and play" friendly enough for me. I like being able to play something for 15-30 mins then quit. It required a lot of time in sequential blocks to get through.Desaparecido said:
I still put 13 hrs into the game, but it's my least favorite game Valve has published.
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