Suing landlords for breach of contract

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genjiZERO

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So I need to sue my landlord for breach of contract. Basically he’s kept my security deposit for over 55 days. In the state I live in the maximum a security deposit can be held after termination of the lease is 45 days. When I contacted him (on day 50) he tried to claim damages (which were BS, and without sending me a bill of particulars). I’ve now threatened to sue for breach of contract, and I’m pretty sure it’ll go to court. Has anyone here dealt with this scenario before? Any advice would be great. I should also note that I originally requested to be present at the final inspection (which was ignored), another violation of state statute.
 
how much was your deposit?

"I should also note that I originally requested to be present at the final inspection (which was ignored)"

yeah, that's weird, since that's the whole point.
 
levious said:
how much was your deposit?

"I should also note that I originally requested to be present at the final inspection (which was ignored)"

yeah, that's weird, since that's the whole point.


$1125. Now he's trying to keep half. The damages claims are all BS - all wear and tear stuff. I have photos and documentation. I knew way back when that it was going to boil down like this that's why I sent the letter (knowing it was going to be ignored) requesting to be present.
 
Depending on the contract, you may have already agreed to not sue. Many tenant agreements force you to agree to arbitration, and you give up your right to sue..
 
lawblob said:
Depending on the contract, you may have already agreed to not sue. Many tenant agreements force you to agree to arbitration, and you give up your right to sue..

I thought you can't give up your right to sue, and that contracts that say that are unenforceable. Plus mine doesn't.
 
I had the same thing happen when in PA for college. The rule in PA was the landlord had to send you an itemized damage bill, via certified mail, within 30 days of the end of the lease. We sent him a certified letter, noting that we would not pay the extra damages assesed and would be taking him to small claims court since he did not meet the deadline. The deposit was then returned.

You should being doing everything by certifieid mail, keeping a copy for your records. No phone calls, normal mail etc - you need to be able to "prove" what you said and sent.
 
genjiZERO said:


the general rule of thumb in virginia if your a tenant goes: "you're screwed"

In seriousness, I wouldn't pay an attorney to do anything for you. Find a template for a letter demanding security deposit from landlord on the internet. Go to your county courthouse and talk to their civil/small claims division and seek general guidance. Hopefully a properly worded claim letter would be enough to get your landlord to give in.
 
levious said:
the general rule of thumb in virginia if your a tenant goes: "you're screwed"

In seriousness, I wouldn't pay an attorney to do anything for you. Find a template for a letter demanding security deposit from landlord on the internet. Go to your county courthouse and talk to their civil/small claims division and seek general guidance. Hopefully a properly worded claim letter would be enough to get your landlord to give in.

This was my reply letter yesterday

Dear So and So,

According to Article 2 Landlord obligations § 55-248.15:1 section A paragraph 1 of the Virginia Residential Landlord and Tenant Act:

"The security deposit, any accrued interest and any deductions, damages and charges shall be itemized by the landlord in a written notice given to the tenant, together with any amount due the tenant within 45 days after termination of the tenancy and delivery of possession."

The security deposit was due to be returned on 15 August 2008. On 20 August 2008, 5 days after the security deposit was to be in my possession, I sent a letter demanding my security deposit for breach of contract, and failure to comply with the Virginia Residential Landlord and Tenant Act. The conclusion of your response emails, a deduction of $555.00, is unsatisfactory as it is violation of contract and Virginia statute. Furthermore, I disavow any knowledge of proposed damages, and so any resulting deductions are inappropriate.

In addition, on 30 June 2008 I requested to be present at the final inspection. The line from the letter: "I would also appreciate it if I could be present at the final inspection." My request was ignored. According to section C paragraph 1 of § 55-248.15:1:

"If the tenant desires to be present when the landlord makes the inspection he shall so advise the landlord in writing who, in turn, shall notify the tenant of the time and date of the inspection, which must be made within 72 hours of delivery of possession."

This is my final notification to compel you to comply with the terms of the lease, and the Virginia Residential Landlord and Tenant Act. If I do not receive the full amount of the security deposit ($1125.00) by Wednesday 24 August 2008 I will file for a Warrant in Debt in General District Court in City, Virginia.

Sincerely,

GenjiZero
 
According to this page:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-adv/classifieds/rentals/vafaq.htm

The landlord needs to do the inspection within 72 hours of the end of your tenancy to make sure that any damages are from you and not from someone else. Doesn't sound like your landlord did the inspections within the allocated time (but he may claim he did later). Also, under Virginia law, you have the right to be present during the inspection and the landlord must present you with an itemized sheet.

Quote:
"If you have specific questions about the law or need advice about a dispute, you can call the Virginia Division of Consumer Protection at (804) 786-2042, or 1-800-552-9963." (more numbers in the above link)

Also you may want to call your local department of housing for whatever county you live in. You probably want to get it resolved before you go to civil court since it can get time consuming and expensive. If you have proper documentation and pictures you should be fine. Sorry to hear about your troubles, the landlord probably spent your money and just doesn't want to give it back; happens all the time with small landlords.
 
Doctor_No said:
According to this page:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-adv/classifieds/rentals/vafaq.htm

The landlord needs to do the inspection within 72 hours of the end of your tenancy to make sure that any damages are from you and not from someone else. Doesn't sound like your landlord did the inspections within the allocated time (but he may claim he did later). Also, under Virginia law, you have the right to be present during the inspection and the landlord must present you with an itemized sheet.

Quote:
"If you have specific questions about the law or need advice about a dispute, you can call the Virginia Division of Consumer Protection at (804) 786-2042, or 1-800-552-9963."

Also you may want to call your local department of housing for whatever county you live in. You probably want to get it resolved before you go to civil court since it can get time consuming and expensive. If you have proper documentation and pictures you should be fine. Sorry to hear about your troubles, the landlord probably spent your money and just doesn't want to give it back; happens all the time with small landlords.

thanks. I've been looking into the legalities of it for days now. I've got loads of pictures. My old roommate's father is an attorney and I agreed to let him call the landlord and deal with this out of court one more time.
 
This shit makes my blood boil. Slum lords are standing beside pedophiles in my mind. Just the lowest of the low. They will do anything to scrape every cent from an arrangement.


Go get em dude... and when you win... sue for your court costs to be covered!
 
That really sucks man, I am glad I have never had to deal with any shit like this. Good luck.


edit: It would have been fucking awesome if you would have actually signed the letter "Genji Zero":lol :lol :lol :lol
 
El_TigroX said:
This shit makes my blood boil. Slum lords are standing beside pedophiles in my mind. Just the lowest of the low. They will do anything to scrape every cent from an arrangement.


Go get em dude... and when you win... sue for your court costs to be covered!
In some states a landlord found to be in the wrong of this kind of situation would by default be required to pay the attorney fees of the plaintiff.
 
Cianalas said:
In some states a landlord found to be in the wrong of this kind of situation would by default be required to pay the attorney fees of the plaintiff.

if you end up taking him to small claims court you should have no problem getting your fees tacked on.
 
Cianalas said:
In some states a landlord found to be in the wrong of this kind of situation would by default be required to pay the attorney fees of the plaintiff.

In the state I live in you can. You can get court costs too. I have an attorney calling him tomorrow.
 
Also: don't accept any check he sends you for less than an amount you are satisfied getting out of this mess.
 
My college once changed me $25 for a missing ice tray. But the funny thing was that they made us leave our doors unlocked after we left for the year, so anybody could have stolen it. I complained to residence life and they eventually dropped the charge.
 
Ha! You think thats bad...Rowan(my college) charged me $50 cause I "over-vaccumed" my room. The infraction wasn't on the university check-list, someone hand wrote it in..:lol

Haven't paid that BS in 4 years...
 
Zep said:
Ha! You think thats bad...Rowan(my college) charged me $50 cause I "over-vaccumed" my room. The infraction wasn't on the university check-list, someone hand wrote it in..:lol

Haven't paid that BS in 4 years...

that's bollocks. How is it even possible to "over-vacuum"?
 
lawblob said:
Depending on the contract, you may have already agreed to not sue. Many tenant agreements force you to agree to arbitration, and you give up your right to sue..


That's generally unenforceable pretty much across the united states.
 
genjiZERO said:
In the state I live in you can. You can get court costs too. I have an attorney calling him tomorrow.


Yep. You're doing the right thing.

Your next move is to have the attorney file the Writ and send a letter to that effect so that he is aware of your intent to remedy in the courts.

If he doesn't comply before court - don't settle it, because that is grounds for you to lose out on getting your fees paid, unless he agrees to pay the fees.
 
Phoenix said:
That's generally unenforceable pretty much across the united states.


Really? Damn, I should have taken a real estate class... I admittedly know basically nothing about landlord / tenant law. :lol
 
My old landlord stole my Wii (came in while I was at work, didn't tell me he was gonna be there.) AND tried to get out of returning the deposit.

Fucking asshole.
 
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