EndlessFloydian
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Super Mario 64 DS releasing on Wii U VC in Europe
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Saw the Mario RPG thread earlier. Didn't see this one yet. Lock if old
Mushroomer25
Member
Best version of Mario 64. Hopefully this hits the US store soon.
NOLA_Gaffer
Banned
I dunno if I'd say best version, but it's definitely an interesting case study in how to remake a game and introduce a bunch of new elements all at the same time.
Crimsonclaw111
Member
Finally a really analog stick version. Mario 64 can now be retired.
Triscuitable
Member
It's a supremely long shot, but I'm hoping Nintendo allows for the analog stick to actually function like it did on the N64.
E_Darkness
Member
Won't it still control like it is on a d-pad?
claude.labonte
Member
I loved this DS remake! <3
chronic_archaic
Member
This game is so much better on 3DS. Even though you don't have analog control it still plays way better than it did.
Crimsonclaw111
Member
Oh. Well that sucks then, never mind and carry on.
Seven Force
Banned
Should play marginally better than on a DS, even if it's still technically locked to 8 directions.
Still my favorite version of the game, though.
Still my favorite version of the game, though.
Hero of Legend
Member
I adore this version. Particularly that it's on the go, it was my first portable 3D platformer, and how Nintendo completely overhauled all the models to look like their current selves, like if they were lower-poly GC models... if that makes sense.
BUT, while back then I managed to 100% the game and didn't remember having any issues with the controls, they are now a problem, particularly when you have to turn around and they walk in a circle to do so, and other nitpicks.
I do wish Nintendo at least future-proofed it where they could've had the analog touch controls be able to be mapped to the 3DS' Circle Pad. I've been playing my newer copy these days on 3DS and the pad helps at least. The fix is there, but that perfection can't be accessed without some careful reconsideration... or something, I don't know, I ain't a programmer!
BUT, while back then I managed to 100% the game and didn't remember having any issues with the controls, they are now a problem, particularly when you have to turn around and they walk in a circle to do so, and other nitpicks.
I do wish Nintendo at least future-proofed it where they could've had the analog touch controls be able to be mapped to the 3DS' Circle Pad. I've been playing my newer copy these days on 3DS and the pad helps at least. The fix is there, but that perfection can't be accessed without some careful reconsideration... or something, I don't know, I ain't a programmer!
I still prefer the handling of the original (obviously analog controls are superior), but I agree all of the additions were smart ones.
An HD remaster of SM64DS with true analog controls would be GOAT.
FaintDeftone
Junior Member
I thought this game was awful to control without an analog stick. If this version improved the controls I would buy it in a heartbeat. Doubt that'll happen, though.
The Circle Pad on the 3DS already improves the controls a lot. It's still only 8 directions, but at least it feels right.
Hero of Legend
Member
Hell even a 3D one with 3D Land-quality graphics would be so beautiful.
Oh, for sure I'd be just as happy with a 3DS remaster. The game would look amazing in stereoscopic 3D.
woopWOOP
Member
100%'d this on 3DS not too long ago. Quite doable with a control stick. The only downside is that you have to hold Y the whole time if you want to run (so doing air dives becomes a little more awkward) while not holding Y makes you walk at a slower pace... only to suddenly go full speed after a while. Pretty annoying when you're trying to tip-toe on small bridges.
Other than that the new star locations and extra maps are fun to check out if you've only played SM64 before.
Other than that the new star locations and extra maps are fun to check out if you've only played SM64 before.
PeakPointMatrix
Member
Ewwww
Tom Nook Sawyer
Member
Boooo. It has terrible controls, shoe-horned in mechanics, and overall worse graphics, aside from character models.
+ a garbage run button
this version will still remain the garbage version until they add real analog stick and camera controls
whitemex88
Member
Just give me those mini games
Sir_Crocodile
Member
Without the thumbstrap it's useless unless they either:
-give it analogue controls
-make run default and walk on button press
-give it analogue controls
-make run default and walk on button press
NOLA_Gaffer
Banned
Because the 3DS already plays DS cartridges.
you can probably still find it on the shelf at your local best buy
amazingly, it's 11+ years old.
Kibbles
Member
I remember going to look for Mario Kart 7 and saw Mario Kart DS was more expensive and still like $35 I think it was.
Heavy's Sandvich
Member
Anyone going to play this with the thumb pad thing?
I never touched this game, just seemed like a cash in on the GOAT.
Will of course smash it out when it releases finally.
I never touched this game, just seemed like a cash in on the GOAT.
Will of course smash it out when it releases finally.
The Spoony Hou
Member
As far as I know, the touchscreen in the original allowed analog control. Maybe Nintendo will be awesome and work that into the analog stick
.I suspect a digital version would make money than what SM64DS does at retail nowadays.
Im always flabbergasted when people praise the four new levels in this game. They're straight up the weakest level designs Nintendo made for a 3d mario. Never liked how this version added some safety nets to a few of the original courses to ease the challenge either.
Now the minigames tho, thats the worth the price of admission.
Now the minigames tho, thats the worth the price of admission.
Best case, Nintendo would map the analog stick to a circular area on the touch screen, which doesn't sound like it would be too hard to implement.
Even if they did that, I still would be reluctant to play the incredibly low-res DS version on a bigger screen though. Ideally Nintendo will at some point release an HD version with all the content of the DS version, so it can be enjoyed without any of DS' restrictions.
Even if they did that, I still would be reluctant to play the incredibly low-res DS version on a bigger screen though. Ideally Nintendo will at some point release an HD version with all the content of the DS version, so it can be enjoyed without any of DS' restrictions.
Soodanim
Gold Member
I've always been interested in this, but I think I remember someone detailing how the default walk eventually goes into a run anyway, which ruins the idea of having a run button. I can see that being annoying for the times you do want to walk.
Do Nintendo have a history of fixing ports?
Edit: Reading the SMB4 Japan thread it seems they of have a history if fixing games! Gives me hope.
Do Nintendo have a history of fixing ports?
Edit: Reading the SMB4 Japan thread it seems they of have a history if fixing games! Gives me hope.
Conrad Link
Member
I remember really enjoying it at DS launch, I was already such a huge fan of Mario 64 it was cool as having a handheld version with even more content now.
Mario 64 is so wonderful.
Even though the 'new' controls took some getting use to it was just so cool having dem 3D Mario graphics handheld.
Mario 64 is so wonderful.
Even though the 'new' controls took some getting use to it was just so cool having dem 3D Mario graphics handheld.
Shuggananas
Banned
Finally I can play poker on Wii U !
Saiyan-Rox
Member
You could ask the same thing for GBA and all the other DS games on Wii U
Robin64
Member
The Wii U play Wii discs, and yet...
Putosaure
Member
As far as I know, the touchscreen in the original allowed analog control. Maybe Nintendo will be awesome and work that into the analog stick
If they managed to do this, I'm in. Otherwise, I'll stick with the original cartridge.
The fact that The time between now and the release of SM64DS is greater than the time between the original and SM64DS still blows my mind.
wow, I feel silly. I was thinking the same thing since they haven't had a VC release on 3ds since like...February or March I think.
You could and you should. I hope with NX this finally won't be a matter anymore and we will get all VC games on all platforms.
Weren't they the same minigames included in NSMB, though?
(Glad to hear the additional levels weren't worthwhile since I never got to play 'em and always kinda wondered.)
I really hope that's the case. I think Nintendo has hinted NX will absorb Wii U's VC architecture. Assuming NX will include a handheld and console, which it seems like it will, I expect there will be a plethora of newly-handheld VC from N64 to DS and maybe even Wii (and GCN?) games.