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[FleenerW]

"The Woody Woodpecker!" I loved that, haha.

 

[Hot Coldman]

please tell me this Air Man remix is from the game

 

[Anteo]

Each match in the Melee EVO finals took just as long as that Sheik Yoshi match, if not longer lol.

Ylin vs Puff forever

 

[OminousShadow]

DHD is so fun to watch

 

[Holy Order Sol]

2-stock is the way to go, things being as they are yeah.

Blast zones don't seem too big to me. They used the same moves over and over, got stale knockback. Also they'd launch from the opposite side of the stage. There really wasn't a problem there.

Stale knockback is also dumb as a mechanic in the first place.

 

[sorakirosaki]

please tell me this Air Man remix is from the game

smash run is the most likely place

 

[Durden77]

God I'm going to love playing as Duck Hunt from the look of him. He and Mega Man are looking like the closest things to Snake for me.

 

[SmithnCo]

DHD has some good zoning it looks like.

 

[Nanashrew]

That was his first time playing DHD? He was doing great going toe to toe with Sheik.

 

[Toxi]

Each match in the Melee EVO finals took just as long as that Sheik Yoshi match, if not longer lol.

That might be because Melee tournaments use four stocks instead of two, LOL.

 

[GameGuru59]

For those saying blast zones are too big. Yes they are bigger, but in my opinion, they make the match more exciting. It's just much more interesting when you actually have to go off stage to kill.

 

[theprodigy]

Each match in the Melee EVO finals took just as long as that Sheik Yoshi match, if not longer lol.

with double the stocks?
also Mango matches are actually pretty quick, I think you mean Hbox/Armada

 

[ViewtifulJC]

Each match in the Melee EVO finals took just as long as that Sheik Yoshi match, if not longer lol.

2 stock matches vs 4 stock, ok

 

[StayDead]

lol @ characters being in red % at 90 and they still take till 150 to die

Good DI led to people survivng to 200% in Melee, the blast zones may seem pretty big, but other stages have smaller.

 

[BitStyle]

please tell me this Air Man remix is from the game

I haven't heard it in the game from what I've watched, but that sounds great!

edit: Oh, seems to be from Smash Run

 

[Mockingbird]

Question is, are the coins good for anything in the Demo?

In the Demo probably not. Would be cool if you can transfer it into the full version.

 

[diaspora]

Each match in the Melee EVO finals took just as long as that Sheik Yoshi match, if not longer lol.

Seriously.

last one was also over 4 minutes, dunno which matches you're watching at this point

Have you been watching at all or?

 

[SuperSah]

Stale knockback is also dumb as a mechanic in the first place.

Prevents people from spamming.

 

[Green Mamba]

please tell me this Air Man remix is from the game

Yeah, it's one of the bonus Smash Run only tracks. Almost certainly a My Music song on Wily Castle in the Wii U version.

Prevents people from spamming.

If you keep getting hit by the same move over and over again you deserve to take the full blow.

It also unfairly hits characters with intentionally fewer good moves like Little Mac over the more versatile characters like Meta Knight.

 

[Beelzebufo]

That might be because Melee tournaments use four stocks instead of two, LOL.

...Which is why they use two stocks lol

Are we complaining about the game length? Because the game length is the same.

 

[Anteo]

Good DI led to people survivng to 200% in Melee, the blast zones may seem pretty big, but other stages have smaller.

No good di is gonna save you from a tipper. Good spacing leds to surviving that long.
And people need to figure out smash4, hopefully matches become shorter.

 

[Mik317]

Positioning and keeping you moves from being stale should help with the blast zines, no?

I can only judge from the demo but Link cam kill easy around 90% with the right move and bring near the edge.

 

[Hot Coldman]

Yeah, it's one of the bonus Smash Run only tracks. Almost certainly a My Music song on Wily Castle in the Wii U version.

Oh my goooooooood it's perfect! I was kind of bummed out when I saw the NES Air Man track was the second Wily Castle track, but this makes up for it in spades.

 

[theprodigy]

Prevents people from spamming.

no, damage reduction with stale moves is more than enough for that
if you keep getting hit by the same move, you deserve to take full knockback every time

 

[Pappasman]

I think the blast zones wouldn't be that bad if recovery wasn't insanely easy.

Each match in the Melee EVO finals took just as long as that Sheik Yoshi match, if not longer lol.

This is a ridiculous comparison. 2 stocks vs 4 stocks.

 

[diaspora]

...Which is why they use two stocks lol

Are we complaining about the game length? Because the game length is the same.

People assume that x length with 2 stock is inherently worse than x length with 4, when that is hardly the case when it comes to both viewing and playing as shown by the stream.

 

[Nickle]

Does the Smash Demo support download play?

 

[Holy Order Sol]

Prevents people from spamming.

Doesn't even have this intended effect which is to address something that isn't actually a problem anyway.

 

[Error404SwagNotFound]

Five minutes isn't really "forever"

Five minutes for less than a standard round in a competition setting is a long time. Not sure the standard will be four stocks this time.

 

[woodland]

The black smash lightning may be affecting your judgment of what could kill or not. The effect doesn't mean the move will kill, just that it was really powerful.

Normally I ignore that since I hate the aesthetic, but when players are regularly getting strong hits off-stage and not dying, that's questionable. Only reason I brought the black lightning up was because it shows the most damage, and someone didn't die after it multiple times.

 

[Unicorn]

In the Demo probably not. Would be cool if you can transfer it into the full version.

pretty sure they do.

 

[Kid Ska]

So what can you use coins for? I assume you can insert various numbers of them into a trophy machine for increasing chances at a new trophy?

 

[FleenerW]

Question is, are the coins good for anything in the Demo?

In the Demo probably not. Would be cool if you can transfer it into the full version.

I've heard you can, actually.

 

[Beelzebufo]

People assume that x length with 2 stock is inherently worse than x length with 4, when that is hardly the case when it comes to both viewing and playing as shown by the stream.

Exactly haha. I guess some people just can't see the forest for the trees. Or love complaining about everything.

I think the blast zones wouldn't be that bad if recovery wasn't insanely easy.
This is a ridiculous comparison. 2 stocks vs 4 stocks.

But the whole reason the default number of stocks is lower is because it takes longer to kill people. Everyone's pointlessly complaining about how long it takes to kill people, when matches are set up to take the same amount of time.

 

[Zane]

Any Marth impressions?

 

[emb]

People assume that x length with 2 stock is inherently worse than x length with 4, when that is hardly the case when it comes to both viewing and playing as shown by the stream.

I don't know, I've been pretty annoyed with a lot of the matches I've spectated. Instead of anything cool happening towards the end of each stock, it's like the person just keeps coming back (with like 5-10 seconds of nothing while they just float back) and getting hit off stage again, repeat ad nauseum.

 

[Formless]

Any Marth impressions?

I heard Lucina > Marth, for some reason?

 

[ViewtifulJC]

But the whole reason the default number of stocks is lower is because it takes longer to kill people.

that's the whole problem, Beelz. You figured it out.

 

[Letterbomb]

Having people regularly get the black smash lightning off-stage and survive doesn't seem big to you?

Black lightning doesn't mean "should be a guaranteed kill". It just represents heavy impact. 64, Melee, and Brawl all have survivable situations from heavy hits. I think people are exaggerating a bit about the blast zones. If anything, it just gives more important to DI, which is not a bad thing in the slightest.

 

[Mockingbird]

pretty sure they do.

You're right! http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/632937-super-smash-bros-for-nintendo-3ds/70071292

Pretty neat. Better than nothing.

 

[Toxi]

Oh my God shut up announcers about shitty Sword Art Online

Any Marth impressions?

Apparently he controls like Melee Marth underwater.

 

[Beelzebufo]

that's the whole problem, Beelz. You figured it out.

So there's no problem, because it was already solved lol. This couldn't be more clear.

 

[theprodigy]

that's the whole problem, Beelz. You figured it out.

Beelzebufo is almost Deckard Cain tier in trolling, ignore him

 

[Kriken]

Really enjoying this small tournament

 

[Zane]

Apparently he controls like Melee Marth underwater.

preorder cancelled

 

[Mr. Smiley]

Severa color :3

 

[TheChits]

please tell me this Air Man remix is from the game

This absolutely must be a song in the Wii U version

 

[Moonlight]

Lucina lookin' nice.

 

[diaspora]

I don't know, I've been pretty annoyed with a lot of the matches I've spectated. Instead of anything cool happening towards the end of each stock, it's like the person just keeps coming back (with like 5-10 seconds of nothing while they just float back) and getting hit off stage again, repeat ad nauseum.

It's generally a back and forth exchange of people hitting each other to the brink without knowing if they're coming back relying on who can space more effectively.

 

[ViewtifulJC]

Beelzebufo is almost Deckard Cain tier in trolling, ignore him

I'm getting that impression. Or maybe English isn't his first language perhaps? Bit unfortunate conversation here.