Souless_PJ
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C'mon reviews. Shouldn't be long now. Exciting day in tech with Apple and MS going head to head on the same day. Like the good old days.
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Surface |OT|
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Read the OP!
I would imagine about the moment they are released there will be a flood of reviews.
Edit: I've been looking up articles on the Surface, it looks like people are just trying to write articles about it at this point. I saw one that claimed it has no camera that was written a couple hours ago.
I'm sure it's no coincidence.
http://www.theverge.com/2012/10/23/3542346/microsofts-windows-8-and-surface-event-in-shanghai
First "hands on" video of surface showing its performance.... also a bit of the touch cover performance.
First "hands on" video of surface showing its performance.... also a bit of the touch cover performance.
brotkasten
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yn-neko hates a cat
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Nice OT 
Looks lightning fast.
brotkasten
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Next time you should read the OP.
SquiddyCracker
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RT is totally not interesting to me as it lacks a stylus, but unfortunately the PRO is way too expensive.
I guess I gotta rely on Acer or Samsung.
I guess I gotta rely on Acer or Samsung.
The OP says something about a mechanical keyboard cover?
Can't you just buy a stylus separately?
brotkasten
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Its hard to believe that's simply a Tegra 3 processor. Pretty impressive.
That doesn't mean mechanical, that means physical big difference bro. It can be both physical and rubber dome.
Are we sure that's RT in the first vid and not Pro? (obviously Pro in the second vid as it shows the desktop).
SquiddyCracker
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I don't even think it has stylus support like its big brother.
The RT has a desktop as well, you just can't install programs to it.
yn-neko hates a cat
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No, I can't say for sure but I will posit this: No one has shown a Surface Pro on the planet as far as the internet knows so I'm leaning RT.
Haven't watched the video but desktop is there in RT. And I think there would be more of a fuss about the video if it was a pro, I don't think those things have been seen yet outside of PR pictures.
Ah OK, my bad.
It's seriously fast then. None of the usual iOS quirks when quickly scrolling around a page with video either.
I can't watch the video because my connection to China is apparently absolute shit (I'm talking 1-4KB/s), but if it runs as fast as everyone is saying it does I might feel less anxious about it going obsolete too quickly.
My Omnia 7 uses 2008 hardware and it's still competitive with some of the best smartphones out there. Let's hope it's the same with the Surface.
My Omnia 7 uses 2008 hardware and it's still competitive with some of the best smartphones out there. Let's hope it's the same with the Surface.
brotkasten
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I know the difference, I have a mechanical keyboard with blue Cherry MX. And at 6 mm I highly doubt that they'll use anything else than rubber dome keys.
Bro.
I agree, just saying that the OP doesn't specify rubber dome or mechanical. So you saying read the OP is pointless since it's not specified in the OP.
Edit: Apparently we were wrong, it's Mechanical.
http://www.microsoft.com/Surface/en-US/accessories/type-cover
Pretty much.
I think Moppet thought you were confirming that the type cover has a mechanical keyboard. That's what it seems like when you only look at the single post.
It looks like an awesome device, but I don't think it's worth getting right now for the price. There's just not an established App ecosystem, so you're basically paying that much for probably the best looking tablet on the market (especially with the cover) but the future of the thing is completely unknown.
The only thing that would make me feel a bit easier is that Microsoft seems to be going all-in with regular Windows 8, in terms of tablet/touch integration, so it's likely that they're going to start filling up that App ecosystem very quickly.
For me though, I think I'm going to either wait for a 10" Nexus, or get that new Samsung Chromebook.
The only thing that would make me feel a bit easier is that Microsoft seems to be going all-in with regular Windows 8, in terms of tablet/touch integration, so it's likely that they're going to start filling up that App ecosystem very quickly.
For me though, I think I'm going to either wait for a 10" Nexus, or get that new Samsung Chromebook.
brotkasten
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I'm used to people mixing up mechanical and just physical keyboards. The fact that Microsoft lists the type cover as mechanical doesn't help, so I can't even blame aznpxdd for thinking that. But like I said, I highly doubt they'll put anything spring loaded in a 6 mm thick cover.
This is the big thing. Windows has the largest install base of any ecosystem on the planet. Even if only a tiny percentage shift to Windows 8 PCs, it's still going to be a significant number and a huge incentive for developers to join the platform.
Depends on what you want.... I would say day 1 they will have the best games ecosystem out there with the xbox launch lineup. Games are about half the apps I have on my ipad so to me that is a huge deal for surface.
Yeah, it's definitely going to be interesting to watch to say the least.
Hmm, well I had a Nexus 7 for a few weeks and I never really liked the games on it. I know the iPad/Phone has more games than Android devices, so I don't know if that's why, but none of the games really interested me. I'm usually at college for a singular block of time, with no breaks in between, so the only time I use the thing is when I'm home. When I would hunker for some gaming, I never thought about even playing a game on the thing when I had a 360 and PS3 right under my TV. Could be just me though.
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can't help but feel like they've missed the boat on corporate a little.
the latest dell tablet with win8 has a 'productivity dock'
which will help to 'replicate a desktop environment with connections for ethernet mouse/keyboard and monitor'.
but nevermind, still pretty keen on the pro for home.... would love to sit at my lounge table doing some work on that thing. curious to see how keyboard only working will actually go in practice.
not overly worried about the appstore at the moment. I imagine it will take off pretty quick a lot of desktop apps will probably try and expand out to RT tablets by coding RT versions.
the latest dell tablet with win8 has a 'productivity dock'
which will help to 'replicate a desktop environment with connections for ethernet mouse/keyboard and monitor'.
but nevermind, still pretty keen on the pro for home.... would love to sit at my lounge table doing some work on that thing. curious to see how keyboard only working will actually go in practice.
not overly worried about the appstore at the moment. I imagine it will take off pretty quick a lot of desktop apps will probably try and expand out to RT tablets by coding RT versions.
Test the waters. If the pre-orders are any indication, the waters seem to be hot...or would it be luke-warm?
Other companies are releasing RT devices.
Asus Vivo Tab RT
Samsung ATIV Tab
Dell XPS 10
IdeaPad Yoga 11
brotkasten
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The Vivo Tab RT will be available this Friday.
can't help but feel like they've missed the boat on corporate a little.
the latest dell tablet with win8 has a 'productivity dock'
which will help to 'replicate a desktop environment with connections for ethernet mouse/keyboard and monitor'.
but nevermind, still pretty keen on the pro for home.... would love to sit at my lounge table doing some work on that thing. curious to see how keyboard only working will actually go in practice.
not overly worried about the appstore at the moment. I imagine it will take off pretty quick a lot of desktop apps will probably try and expand out to RT tablets by coding RT versions.
Now that's the future for me, a desktop I can slide out and carry as a tablet? I can't wait until we plug our smartphones into a dock on our desk and it connects with the screen, mouse, keyboard and larger HDD to give us truly flexible computing.
Except for shitty Asus tab, none of the other devices have a release date, or a price point.
For $600 and with hilarious Asus tablet 'quality control'. Seriously folks, stay away from Asus tablets.
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exactly this. Executives would get boners from this stuff. the love for tablets at higher corporate levels borders on retarded. Pro would have been pretty uniquely positioned to fill that space. Group policies -> docking undocking -> domain membership etc.
feels like a huge miss for MS. Looks like Dell knows what's up, but they lack those awesome covers. Microsoft should just let OEMs copy the hell out of it.
brotkasten
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I didn't say anything about quality or price. You said no one else is releasing any RT device.
Well it's made by Asus so it might as well not exist.
brotkasten
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agreed.... imagine how much better the surface implementation would be if they could get it to use that magnetic dock connector so you just drop it in and it all syncs up.
To me even the ipad isn't that great when it comes to games (despite how much love it gets from those in the industry). But being able to play ilomilo, hydro thunder, toy soldiers and more on my tablet is something that interests me. Some screenshots here: http://playxbla.com/?p=18142