Sweden makes paying for e-thots illegal
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Kadve
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Explain how that would help against my points though? Prostitution is one thing yes, but girls being forced into it either by society or by people taking advantage of them is not. And a blanket plan closes out legal loopholes that would otherwise exist.
Or are you saying Sex trafficking/slavery isn't a thing? Cause they totally are.
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Angry_Megalodon
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So, law enforcers should go after them, not after the adult people who willingly participate in a sex transaction.
The hypocrisy and double standard of this law is through the roof, punishing only one side while keeping the facade of "being feminist" it is so fucking pathetic.
About male prostitution, gay or straight, not a single word, of course.
Angry_Megalodon
Member
Some of your premises are wrong, so that's why you dont understand.
- First, religious people dont hate women. The institution of marriage was created to PROTECT women from men fucking around.
Said this, feminism IS indeed a fringe cult that operates with the same logic as the most extremist religion.
They are against this because it's NOT THEM who control OnlyFans or related sites. Feminism is ingraned in the public powers and public powers want to control every aspect of your life, sex included. Sex above all, actually.
It's about control. Only about control, nothing more.
And this is the same reason why sex androids will be banned. This is textbook comunism. First, pervert society. Then, take control.
As I said in my previous post, no socialist country will ever get to the actual reasons why women decide to become online prostitutes. It's their rotten society and lack of values that provoked it.
Cyberpunkd
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You just started, and you are already wrong.
Northeastmonk
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You can watch vlogs from women who work at the bunny ranch in Nevada. They're obviously getting by and doing fine.
OF feels like a rip off. It's turned a lot of young women into whores at an early age and I think it's mainly due to its accessibility. Maybe "whore" is the wrong word. They're basically screwing themselves if they want out because their content is all online now. You can't tell a family owned business to hire a woman who sells her body online. They don't want that type of conflict within the community. At 18-20 something you don't know how life works. You're still buzzing from being under your parents in some way, shape or form.
I am all for decriminalizing sex work because you're never going to stop it and you force those who do into human trafficking. Who talks bad about Nevada and the Bunny Ranch? You rarely do and when you do see someone they're floating about how awesome it is. Everywhere else? It's drugs, pimps, murder, and everything else.
Did we need to stop kids from watching porn so easily? Yes. That was getting out of hand. Do we need to stop young girls from posting nude pics online for money? Probably. I see these 18 year olds online selling their OF page and you can tell they barely have any work experience. I guess if brothels were legal, they'd choose that, but at least that could have a screening process and other women in the same business. It's also much easier for a woman, mentally to show naked photos online.
OF feels like a rip off. It's turned a lot of young women into whores at an early age and I think it's mainly due to its accessibility. Maybe "whore" is the wrong word. They're basically screwing themselves if they want out because their content is all online now. You can't tell a family owned business to hire a woman who sells her body online. They don't want that type of conflict within the community. At 18-20 something you don't know how life works. You're still buzzing from being under your parents in some way, shape or form.
I am all for decriminalizing sex work because you're never going to stop it and you force those who do into human trafficking. Who talks bad about Nevada and the Bunny Ranch? You rarely do and when you do see someone they're floating about how awesome it is. Everywhere else? It's drugs, pimps, murder, and everything else.
Did we need to stop kids from watching porn so easily? Yes. That was getting out of hand. Do we need to stop young girls from posting nude pics online for money? Probably. I see these 18 year olds online selling their OF page and you can tell they barely have any work experience. I guess if brothels were legal, they'd choose that, but at least that could have a screening process and other women in the same business. It's also much easier for a woman, mentally to show naked photos online.
Bojji
Member
How about legal prostitution + 2x crackdown on human/sex traffickers?
In USA prostitution is illegal but yet you have this:
In countries where prostitution is legal girls don't have to work on the streets and are not afraid to call the cops if their customer is problematic. In germany they even pay taxes.
Kadve
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You're twisting my argument. A blanket ban makes it 10 times easier to deal with sex traffickers. As you will never create situations where someone will just claim "No she totally wants to be a prostitute. She said as much didn't she?" and then that would be it as you have to look at everything from a case-by-case basis.
Yes, Sweden have taken the easy route here. But i for one believe its the right choice.
Bojji
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Easier for authorities? Maybe. But every crime solving should be done on case-by-case basis. Women being there illegally? - huge circumstantial evidence that it could be sex trafficking. Police/border patrol should do their job.
Most of Europe has legal (or not prosecuted) prostitution and I don't think countries suffer from that (western Europe has other problems with males coming there illegally)
Trilobit
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Sweden was very religious. Like incredibly so. Just back in the 50's or so many were active Church-goers. But it's a very extreme country in many ways so when it swings it swings big and fast, so now it's basically one of the most atheist countries out there.
But if you listen to Swedish politicians many of them have an almost religious way of speaking and a lot of the Protestant thinking is still immersed in the populace. The politicans take on an almost "priestly" role sometimes. So Swedish mentality and politics makes more sense from that point of view rather than looking at it strictly as being an atheist country.
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Cyberpunkd
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Et voila, most likely a good explanation, thank you.
Reizo Ryuu
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Yeah I believe in those green countries they even pay taxes, heck iirc in the netherlands they take it a step further by having them register their "business" with a special department of the government, and no middlemen (aka pimps etc) are allowed; I saw a video once how they have police everywhere in these areas, so a prostitute can just call the cops on a special number if a customer gets rowdy and they'll arrive within seconds.
Imagine that, them actually have a legal way of getting protection instead of being exploited by several parties because the whole affair is deemed criminal behaviour
regulation is obviously the way to go, instead of this weird puritan ultra-repressed conservative blanket ban on consenting adults that just makes things 1000x worse overall for everyone involved.
daffyduck
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Are you from Reddit?
poodaddy
Gold Member
Na, he's not. I'm an atheist, but many religious institutions, in my experience, are concerned with the safety of women and children first and foremost, far before men, so he's factually right from my experience, which is quite a lot in this area as I and my wife volunteered to hand out food and supplies to people at a church for four hours three days a week for a year straight during the pandemic. You're talking out of your ass with zero experience on the subject, a common theme for you.
You're telling us they don't even what the real thing, over there? O_O
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Jsisto
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There needs to be some combination of this, as well as harsh penalties on the dating websites for their predatory monetization. Back in the day they actually used to be functional for meeting someone or atleast having a conversation. It's sick what they've done to them and guys generally realize it's pointless now.
Nocty
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same reason people pay for hookers really. It's just another form of the same issue (lack of confidence or ability to get a real partner)
some dudes just really get off on paying some random hoe to make custom content for them. There are many reasons,
Funny short story for you. I had a friend who was injured during his service in iraq back during bush era war. He lost his leg and with it all of his confidence with women, and gained a ton of weight from depression / anxiety / lack of activity. He started paying this swedish cam chick to make custom videos and pics for him on a weekly basis, This was the days before onlyfans obviously, so things then were a little more tricky (payments via paypal etc, easily charge-backable and what not.
anyway, a few months of this going on, he somehow convinced her to meet up for a real date, which he ended up paying for fully, but they ended up dating long term. It didnt work out, but they were together for quite a while and had genuine love out of it, so it 'can' happen. That small % chance keeps a lot of simps on the hook.
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HRK69
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I can't even imagine the level of post-nut clarity these guys must experience
ReBurn
Gold Member
At least hookers actually let their customers touch them.
Nocty
Member
well that is precisely my point. All they have to do is allude to that being a 0.01% chance possibility and they hook simps like flies to shit.
Never underestimate how thirsty sexually deprived men can get. They will cling to anything. We are living in an era where dudes will sit all day long on an e-thots twitch stream, pay thousands of dollars in tips just to hear them make pokemon noises and say their username on live while they jack off.
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Wimbledon
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I just got on OF the other day just to verify the escort I'm seeing June 5th. I may keep it but having the extra verification does matter to me. Because a lot of women lie in there photos of how they look now.
Thankfully her account was free, she's Brazilian and German mix , can't fuckong wait
I do see a lot of escort profiles on sites though where women have an OF who are in the profession. They won't have the reviews link anywhere on the profile which makes me cautious to go out and even see a girl if there isn't at least something to verify who she is.
i do find it funny though, have sex with the girl , then subscribe and become a fan. As if she's a real life subscription model.
Thankfully her account was free, she's Brazilian and German mix , can't fuckong wait
I do see a lot of escort profiles on sites though where women have an OF who are in the profession. They won't have the reviews link anywhere on the profile which makes me cautious to go out and even see a girl if there isn't at least something to verify who she is.
i do find it funny though, have sex with the girl , then subscribe and become a fan. As if she's a real life subscription model.
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