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Terri Schiavo

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SickBoy

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Just curious what people think of this case, where the family has been fighting the husband for at least five years over whether Terri Schiavo's feeding tube should be removed.
 

xsarien

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The entire case is sad, just completely sad. But given her state, I think her family needs a strong dose of reality. They should pull the plug, I can't imagine anyone wanting to "live" like that.
 

ManaByte

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SickBoy said:
Just curious what people think of this case, where the family has been fighting the husband for at least five years over whether Terri Schiavo's feeding tube should be removed.

The interesting thing about this is that the family has found some evidence that leads them to believe she was attacked before going into her current state. That leads them to believe that the ex-husband just wants to kill her to shut her up in case she can ever talk again and tell people what really happened. Also, the ex-husband wants her to be immediately cremated after she starves to death so there's no chance of an autopsy.
 

xsarien

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ManaByte said:
The interesting thing about this is that the family has found some evidence that leads them to believe she was attacked before going into her current state.

They're also banking on the ultra-slim chance that one day, out of nowhere, she'll suddenly come out of the state she's currently in. It's called denial, and it can be very cruel.
 

IJoel

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What i find disturbing is that she'll die after a week or two without a feeding tube. That seems like an awful long time and well... if she even has a bit of consciousness and ability to feel pain, it would be really painful.

Not so sure on it. I can't really take a stand without knowing much more than I really know now.
 

ManaByte

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xsarien said:
They're also banking on the ultra-slim chance that one day, out of nowhere, she'll suddenly come out of the state she's currently in. It's called denial, and it can be very cruel.

And letting someone starve to death over a week isn't cruel?

IJoel said:
What i find disturbing is that she'll die after a week or two without a feeding tube. That seems like an awful long time and well... if she even has a bit of consciousness and ability to feel pain, it would be really painful.

Not so sure on it. I can't really take a stand without knowing much more than I really know now.

She's not in a coma, she's conscious and responds to people so yes she will feel pain as she starves to death.
 

SickBoy

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One of the depressing aspects of the case beyond the obvious, IMO, is that the imbalance that put her into this state is believed to have been caused by an eating disorder.
 

Teddman

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ManaByte said:
She's not in a coma, she's conscious and responds to people so yes she will feel pain as she starves to death.
Not getting into this debate, but she is absolutely not "conscious" and her responses to stimuli have all been deemed consistent with a vegetative state by experts.
 

Drensch

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She's not in a coma, she's conscious and responds to people so yes she will feel pain as she starves to death.

Actually that's not true. Only the family is pushing that line that she repsonds. Doctors who have examined her say hat she does not respond, she only has nerve impluses that have nothing to do with cognitive function. Due to the state she's in she won't feel any pain when she dies. Moreover, if euthanasia was legal, it wouldn't even be an arguement. She could be killed much easier. But for some reason, keeping a body in some state of "life" is more important to people than quality or suffering. People should be able to die with dignity instead of using science to animate a corpse.

Her family needs to let it go already. And while we're at it Jeb"fixing elections" Bush needs to keep his fucking nose out of shit like this.
 
LinesInTheSand said:
It's pretty obvious the husband has something to hide...

yeah like maybe he doesn't want to live with a vegetable for a wife for the rest of his life, and perhaps she expressed to him before this happened that she wouldn't want to live this way either (who the fuck would?)

the family are being extremely selfish and are in denail in this case IMO. All hoping for some miraculous, 1 in a trillion recovery that could happen 10, 20, or even 30 years down the road.
 

ManaByte

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Ninja Scooter said:
yeah like maybe he doesn't want to live with a vegetable for a wife for the rest of his life, and perhaps she expressed to him before this happened that she wouldn't want to live this way either (who the fuck would?)

Except he remarried and really has nothing to do with her now. He just wants to eliminate any possibility of her ever talking again.
 
Ninja Scooter said:
yeah like maybe he doesn't want to live with a vegetable for a wife for the rest of his life, and perhaps she expressed to him before this happened that she wouldn't want to live this way either (who the fuck would?)

the family are being extremely selfish and are in denail in this case IMO. All hoping for some miraculous, 1 in a trillion recovery that could happen 10, 20, or even 30 years down the road.
at least get your facts straight before answering my post. thanks.
 
I think the situation is sad on all sides but, that being said I would not want to "live" like that. And I doubt most people would. However her living or dying won't allow her family to move on. There is too much pain involved in this case.
 

xsarien

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ManaByte said:
And letting someone starve to death over a week isn't cruel?

I was speaking in the metaphorical sense. Doctor assisted suicide.

ManaByte said:
Except he remarried and really has nothing to do with her now. He just wants to eliminate any possibility of her ever talking again.

He hasn't remarried. He has a new family, but he's not married to the woman.
 

DCharlie

And even i am moderately surprised
"Except he remarried and really has nothing to do with her now. He just wants to eliminate any possibility of her ever talking again."

.....

Oh, he doesn't want her to talk incase she confirms the theory that she was abused/attacked by the husband that may have caused the state, that has suddenly come up after years of bitter fighting between him and the family? is that it?
 

Pellham

Banned
my position is that since this guy has gone off and started a new family, he shouldn't have any say in what happens to Terri Schiavo.

That doesn't mean that she should be kept alive in her current state, just that her parents should be the ones to make the decision.
 
He didn't remarry... He has children with another woman, but he remained married to Schiavo, presumably because he stands to inherit a bit from her death. He couldn't do that if he remarried. There's obviously more to the story than what we're seeing in the media. The husband is hiding something. His responses to preliminary investigation have just been too shady.
 

ChrisReid

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Error Macro said:
He didn't remarry... He has children with another woman, but he remained married to Schiavo, presumably because he stands to inherit a bit from her death. He couldn't do that if he remarried.

Yeah, this is major. Whether it's just greed or something more sinister, the facts are that he's remained married to a vegetable for 15 years while raising a new family. While he's telling the family to move on, he obviously hasn't done so himself, most likely to get the giant inheritance. Whether she should die now or not, the husband's role in this matter should have ended long ago. He shouldn't even be the husband anymore.
 

fse

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KILL HER ALREADY. fuck its sad? yes, is it right to let her be a veggie for all her life? who the fuck cares.
 
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