Testing out my new capture card, weeee (T5)
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Is that with tomsmocomp ? You should not get that much interlacing artifacts with this one.Ferrio said:Ya, I just tried that one just now (some reason dscaler detected my machine was a lot slower than it actually is, therefor not letting me use that filter).
The results
Funky Papa
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Who knows something about this one?
http://www.turtlebeach.com/site/products/videocapture/vidusb/
$129.95 for an USB powered DV capturing device doesn't look that bad.
http://www.turtlebeach.com/site/products/videocapture/vidusb/
$129.95 for an USB powered DV capturing device doesn't look that bad.
Ok, good old conexant CX23881 or BT878 then. I really like these cardsFerrio said:
Give Virtual VCR a try :
http://www.doom9.org/capture/capturing_VirtualVCR.html
Blimblim said:Ok, good old conexant CX23881 or BT878 then. I really like these cards
Give Virtual VCR a try :
http://www.doom9.org/capture/capturing_VirtualVCR.html
Well any idea how to make my picture better in Dscaler? Any tweaks or anything?
It usually works nicely, except there is a big delay (a few seconds) between what the source sends and what is displayed on the PC. So it's impossible to use it for capturing games, unless you have a dual svideo/composite cable (svideo goes to the capture device, composite to tv). I myself use my audio receiver to send the video signal to both my TV and PC, it's much more convenient.Funky Papa said:Who knows something about this one?
http://www.turtlebeach.com/site/products/videocapture/vidusb/
$129.95 for an USB powered DV capturing device doesn't look that bad.
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Apharmd Battler
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I need to get a video capture card. 
I'd like to start posting pics with my impressions.
What do you guys think of this one:
http://www.surpluscomputers.net/store/main.aspx?p=ItemDetail&item=CRD10186
I'd like to start with something cheap to cut my teeth on.
I'd like to start posting pics with my impressions.
What do you guys think of this one:
http://www.surpluscomputers.net/store/main.aspx?p=ItemDetail&item=CRD10186
I'd like to start with something cheap to cut my teeth on.
Nope, RGB or YUV capture is something much more costly than simple composite or S-Video. I'm looking to buy a progressive capture card for the next generation, and it's simply scary how much this costs (count about $2500 for the Xena card from AJA, plus the price of the component -> HD-SDI: $1500).megateto said:
One day maybe...
Simple. Get the cheapest PCI card you can find. Cheap = conexant = support for dscaler and good capture from virtualvcr.Apharmd Battler said:I need to get a video capture card.
I'd like to start posting pics with my impressions.
What do you guys think of this one:
http://www.surpluscomputers.net/store/main.aspx?p=ItemDetail&item=CRD10186
I'd like to start with something cheap to cut my teeth on.
bobbyconover
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Blimblim said:
I take it you're not a Hauppauge fan? I have a PVR-250 and have been trying, on and off, to get good game videos and screenshots out of it for some time now, with limited success. It unfortunately doesn't work in dscaler or quite a few other widely respected programs.
The weird thing is that the raw Mpeg2 captures from this thing look really nice and smooth, but when I encode them (with divx, xvid or whatever) they get this really awful interlaced look to them. I've never been able to figure out how to fix it or filter it out, and it drives me insane. Check this out to see what I'm talking about, particularly on the moving notes : http://www.libblerabble.com/videos/Taiko - CURL.avi - any ideas?
I'm thinking about just taking your cheapest-card-possible advice, and seeing how it goes. I've already found one of the models you mentioned for around $20, so I figure it's worth a shot?
Hauppauge uses connexant chips for the cheapest cards too. No idea what's in these PVR card. Your video looks very nice except for the interlacing.bobbyconover said:
You should really take a look at avisynth for deinterlacing with the tomsmocomp plugin. That's what I use for my videos and it's excellent. Just create the avs file, and open it with virtualdub as you would a standard video
Code:
LoadPlugin("c:\program files\AVISynth 2.5\plugins\TomsMoComp.dll")
AviSource("source.avi")
ConvertToYUY2()
TomsMoComp(1,15,1)Culex said:If you want to shell out the $1000, Pinnacle has a true USB 2.0 component input device. With the software, it captures up to 60fps, too. Of course, component-in is hard to come by, so that's a steal.
Heh, the video guy downstairs here at work actually has that exact setup. No way I'd have access to it, though.
Culex said:If you want to shell out the $1000, Pinnacle has a true USB 2.0 component input device. With the software, it captures up to 60fps, too. Of course, component-in is hard to come by, so that's a steal.
It will not be real-time from analog sources as it encodes them to MPEG before transferring to PC.
Interesting. The problem is that this does not support progressive so you will still get an interlaced image that wil be processed by some software. Also USB capture devices create a delay so you may not be able to use it to make gaming videos.Culex said:If you want to shell out the $1000, Pinnacle has a true USB 2.0 component input device. With the software, it captures up to 60fps, too. Of course, component-in is hard to come by, so that's a steal.
maskrider said:
Maskrider, while you're here, I have a question...
What is the best way to capture video from a PC game? I've tried FRAPs, but was not entirely pleased with the results. It recorded mostly fine on my 3.6 GHz (30 fps videos were perfect and 60 fps videos were only good on lower end games), but it killed my 3.0 GHz. Is there a more efficient, higher quality method for capturing or do you also use FRAPs?
I've got the PVR-250 too. I've managed to tackle the interlacing issue. The PVR-250 got a hardware mpeg2 encoder chip and it dumps it's recording as interlaced mpeg2 onto your HD.bobbyconover said:
Possible options are AVISynth (with mpeg2 plugin and TomsMoComp.dll) or VirtualDub-Mpeg2Mod (deinterlacing with it's own deinterlacing filter or smart deinterlacer).
Deinterlacing with Virtualdub is a bad idea. The plugin API was not designed for stuff like that so it makes complex deinterlacing with motion compensation totally impossible to do.ChryZ said:
I've tested many ways to deinterlace videos, and nothing ever beat tomsmocomp or sangnom with avisynth.
bobbyconover
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Thanks for the PVR-250 tips, Blimblim and ChryZ! I'll definitely try them out and see if I have any better luck.
Blimblim said:
I use Pegasys's TMPGEnc XPress 3.0 (to deinterlace and encode) and Premiere (to cut and process).
The Rage Theatre 200 on AIW 9800 Pro can indeed take analog HD component input from what I know (I tested it on a evaluation board - not on video cards - before, full of problems for sure, mostly immature software), but I was surprised that there was no further development on that in consumer 3D video cards.
