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The Formula 1 2011/2012 Off-Season Thread |OT| The Year of the Red Bull
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I doubt it will be broadcast anywhere live. Your best chance of seeing any testing is to get a few mins of highlights at the end of each day.
Myoclonic Jerk
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you will usually find some streams on the net when the tests are running, just wait
Alright, fair enough
Owkaay, now I don't know what to do, guess we'll see
mclaren777
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Tests aren't very fun to watch and you will probably get more enjoyment from simply looking at high-res pictures.
Myoclonic Jerk
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listen to this gentleman
First test can be interesting but after that its typically by the numbers, at the first test you have a much greater chance of things not going to plan and other interesting quirks.
Think of the mclaren a few years back, it shot straight out of the box and was almost a comical mess to drive.
All bar 1, the mclaren.
Think of the mclaren a few years back, it shot straight out of the box and was almost a comical mess to drive.
All bar 1, the mclaren.
brotkasten
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"The car didn't set me on fire like Nick last year, so that's a good thing."
NihonTiger90
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Finally someone with some sense. Do McLaren fans really have no faith in their team? I don't care if McLaren does well or not, but even I know that they picked that design for a good reason. There wasn't this much panic last year when they had the weird sidepods, everyone just thought they were cool and innovative and in the end they didn't make or brake the car.
Foliorum Viridum
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I don't think it's too illogical to have questions about the McLaren design when every other team has gone with a different design.
RomanticHeroX
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It'd be less worrying if McLaren didn't have a pretty consistent trend of starting the year out with at least one major flaw in their car. When literally every other team has opted to run in a different way than you have you're either in a very good position (think Brawn 09) or you're screwed. And when it comes to aero matters I wouldn't put money against Newey.
Edmond Dantès
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Youtube.
There's normally a bunch of round-ups uploaded by people at the track, just keep an eye out in this thread for the links.
Williams have a great live timing site for testing and even Sky Sports this year may have something decent.
Edmond Dantès
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It would be hilarious if Team Brackley used a nose similar to the BGP-001.
Myoclonic Jerk
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I hope that Merc will have McLarens nose..
Edmond Dantès
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I'm hopeful of that, but they're most likely following the step-nose design philosophy as well.
On that note, there are four cars left to be unveiled; HRT, Marussia, Mercedes and Williams.
mclaren777
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Has today's Williams launch been delayed?
mclaren777
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Ahh, I see the problem. It's 11:30pm for me, not 11:30am.
Gotta learn to read calendars better.
Edmond Dantès
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A few reports here and there and blogs from Andrew Benson, but that's it really. The BBC haven't done anything substantial for testing since they started covering F1.
Edmond Dantès
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Just keep an eye on the thread, there will be plenty of links to live timing and plenty of images and a lot of discussion on sandbagging.lol
is there a live stream or anything for the tests?
i cant believe its tomorrow already
mclaren777
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brotkasten
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Perfect.
Edmond Dantès
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Edmond Dantès
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Rachel Brookes
Hmm, I assume Sky have a team at Jerez who will be reporting every hour on Sky Sports News.
Hmm, I assume Sky have a team at Jerez who will be reporting every hour on Sky Sports News.
Edmond Dantès
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Just like the team, but they're still doing a better job than Marussia, which is extremely surprising considering their shaky start. The next Minardi? I think not, but they'll probably be around for a while yet.
I love the look of the McLaren but worry about how well it will perform. If it doesn't have the pace, the nose will be blamed rightly or wrongly. If they're the only team without the step I will be concerned. On that note, can they change it later on if they need to? I know new wings come out throughout the season but the steps seem to be right between the front wing assembly and the chassis. I'm not too familiar with the rules but I don't think you can change the chassis during the season.
there isn't really anything to worry with mcl.
they are continuing their design philosophy from last year where they already sported the lower nose. Everyone else was running the RBR style high nose.
this year mcl is continuing their style and everyone else the rbr style - so the nose reg shouldn't really change up things.
Also you don't really hear teams lamenting the nose regs, the loss of downforce on the rear seems to be a much bigger issue.
they are continuing their design philosophy from last year where they already sported the lower nose. Everyone else was running the RBR style high nose.
this year mcl is continuing their style and everyone else the rbr style - so the nose reg shouldn't really change up things.
Also you don't really hear teams lamenting the nose regs, the loss of downforce on the rear seems to be a much bigger issue.
Adam Scott Aukerman
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Well in a world in which McLaren didn't have a naturally lower car to begin with, I'd agree. But they do, so I don't.
As has been pointed out countless times already, there's never going to be a single solution to any engineering problem in F1, and just as we saw last year, you can have very different looking cars (with largely completely different innards) still be remarkably close on pace. That's what's so fascinating about F1.
As for all the other teams going for the duckbill nose, put it this way; it's easier to implement a step nose and use that to refine and build upon the knowledge and design of your existing car than it is to lower the thing and essentially start from scratch just to avoid the new nose. With this in mind, this will likely also put McLaren in a very good position next winter when everyone else has to lower the rest of their noses.
As for Mercedes, they had a very duckbill looking nose last year, albeit a bit smoother, so I expect they'll have a similar looking one this year.
P.S. I actually rather like the look of Sauber's nose. Madness.
BackwardsSuggestions
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Need a comparison shot with all cars side by side!
Edmond Dantès
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Higher res image of the STR:
A much improved livery and the best of the step-nosed cars in terms of aesthetics.
A much improved livery and the best of the step-nosed cars in terms of aesthetics.
Edmond Dantès
Dantès the White
The Renault RS27.
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