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The Formula 1 2011/2012 Off-Season Thread |OT| The Year of the Red Bull
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Osiris
I permanently banned my 6 year old daughter from using the PS4 for mistakenly sending grief reports as it's too hard to watch or talk to her
I hope so. It may look ugly, but I like the tweets Mike Gascoyne and co give to the fans - insightful.
Plus it was my F1 2010 car, so naturally I am fond of them.
I'm an even bigger fan. Neither yourself or Lucius went to the effort of making sure you were born in the same country as him. Pretty weak, really!
Seriously though, as if we needed more of an excuse to get behind him. Literally.
Hm. Looks like Vergne is hitting around the same times as Ricciardo, Vettel a tad slower than Webber (though we don't know the setup he's running). Is it noted anywhere on the times whether they're running light or not or what compound tyres they're using?
I'm getting a bit excited over here. Even if I wasn't going round 1, I'd still be sporting a fair chub right about now for this season. Exciting stuff
The only way to guess fuel load is to look at the length of the stint. Tyre info isn't shown on the timing we can get, but if you keep an eye on Autosport live then they might tell you when the drivers change tyres.
Osiris
I permanently banned my 6 year old daughter from using the PS4 for mistakenly sending grief reports as it's too hard to watch or talk to her
It was a combination of Gascoynes hiring and a change to the Caterham branding (Including buying/saving the company) that has given me a new respect for them, I've always wanted a Super 7 for track days. So I'm going to be cheering them on in their fight, at least for as long as their not challenging my first team of choice anyway
Diablohead
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car's sound as orgasmic as ever
FIA urged to drop the Bahrain GP.
Why does the FIA even bother with races in countries like Bahrain? There's basically a civil war going on, nobody attends the race anyway, and the track is boring as hell. Fuck the money and take F1 back to somewhere like Imola, or better yet, the States.
Why does the FIA even bother with races in countries like Bahrain? There's basically a civil war going on, nobody attends the race anyway, and the track is boring as hell. Fuck the money and take F1 back to somewhere like Imola, or better yet, the States.
There is 1 US GP this year & 2 next year, how many do you want?
But I agree with Imola or use the free spot to keep Spa!
Do you really think the US GP is going to happen this year?
Should have got me in that car.
Unless I have missed some major news about in the past few weeks, then yes I think it will happen & would be very surprised if it didnt.
Hey, if there's one thing Webber doesn't do, it's get people behind him. Literally.
New rear body and exhaust for Sauber today
And wet tyres?!
mclaren777
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Austin = yes
New Jersey = no
It was fairly icy this morning so teams were using wet tires for the initial exploratory laps.
Random pictures from Day Three
mclaren777
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Would anybody be interested in doing a Skype group call today to talk about the 2012 cars/season?
And I've also found a great angle to see the vent on the bottom of the RB8...
And I've also found a great angle to see the vent on the bottom of the RB8...
mclaren777
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Is anybody interested in chatting on Skype today?
Psychotext
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Careful what you wish for. You'll probably get all the Webber fans on there and it'll be circlejerktastic.
mclaren777
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What an amazing picture!
Well can't say I'm surprised with all the reports from Jerez... but the "we're working very hard" sounds like an excuse from someone that is already seeing the dark future ahead...
http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/97453
http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/97453
And you have a problem with that?
Psychotext
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Not as long as you clean up after yourselves.
Not surprised to read that, Ferrari hasn't looked fast at all this week.
But still plenty of time to improve
MightGoThere
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Kamui's twitter is the best thing that has happened so far this season.
https://twitter.com/#!/kamui_kobayashi/status/167698930312818688
https://twitter.com/#!/kamui_kobayashi/status/167698930312818688
Back end of the mclaren still looks quite basic and crude in places, rear brake ducts are incredibly simple compared to the red bulls so I don't think they have fitted all of the race parts just yet, maybe not until they are sure the exhaust system is working as intended. Even the rear of the body looks a bit bloated compared to how much was cut away last year to make room for the cut away in the U.
I believe that we simply wont see a representative mclaren until the first race the current car just has that 'template' feel.
I believe that we simply wont see a representative mclaren until the first race the current car just has that 'template' feel.
Osiris
I permanently banned my 6 year old daughter from using the PS4 for mistakenly sending grief reports as it's too hard to watch or talk to her
I wonder how LH feels being a teammate in Buttons McLaren and whether he ever saw that coming
I keed of course, but damn man, given how much people said he was entering the lions den, gonna be LH's lackey at MRL etc. JB's done a hell of a lot to turn that around.
Hell, the most impressive thing for me about JB isn't so much his performance on track, but how much work he's done over the years to lose the flaky playboy racer tag and actually go professional F1 driver, there certainly was a low point at the end on his Williams days where he was very much in danger of following the James Hunt/Jacques Villeneuve route into racing irrelevance and obscurity due to living it up and not driving well enough to support the lifestyle/career, hats off to the man, well damn played!
I keed of course, but damn man, given how much people said he was entering the lions den, gonna be LH's lackey at MRL etc. JB's done a hell of a lot to turn that around.
Hell, the most impressive thing for me about JB isn't so much his performance on track, but how much work he's done over the years to lose the flaky playboy racer tag and actually go professional F1 driver, there certainly was a low point at the end on his Williams days where he was very much in danger of following the James Hunt/Jacques Villeneuve route into racing irrelevance and obscurity due to living it up and not driving well enough to support the lifestyle/career, hats off to the man, well damn played!
They said that they already have upgrades for the first race on car launch. Their exhausts will change and so will some bodywork parts. This first test in Jerez is meant to be for drivers to get first impression of the car and team to get some real-life data, to compare them to those from simulator. Mclaren is doing on-track vs simulator testing (drivers in Jerez, Barcelona itd., reserve driver in Woking) and comparing data.
Not encouraging words for Ferrari from Pat Fry...lost in flow-viz
So why do you guys think most teams have gone the retarded nose way, instead of doing like McLaren did? It's apparently still possible to have a continuous nose-to-body, but it seems every team has opted for the seemingly stranger solution.
First argument that comes to mind for me is that it would be a lot of redesign to shift around the stuff that would need to be lowered in order to get the McLaren-nose, but surely they'd do that if it had an aerodynamic advantage? So does the new nose-shape have an aerodynamic benefit? It seems like it would create some turbulence in the air between the bump and the driver, as opposed to the old, sleek design.
And have there been any further speculations to the Red Bull slots?
Seems like they try to slot the hot air a bit down near the rear, there?
First argument that comes to mind for me is that it would be a lot of redesign to shift around the stuff that would need to be lowered in order to get the McLaren-nose, but surely they'd do that if it had an aerodynamic advantage? So does the new nose-shape have an aerodynamic benefit? It seems like it would create some turbulence in the air between the bump and the driver, as opposed to the old, sleek design.
And have there been any further speculations to the Red Bull slots?
What an amazing picture!
Seems like they try to slot the hot air a bit down near the rear, there?
Edmond Dantès
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Indeed, Jenson's detractors are very quiet these days. He has proved himself to be a top tier driver alongside Alonso, Vettel, Hamilton. The equivalent of the four 'aliens' in MotoGP (Stoner, Pedrosa, Lorenzo and Rossi), as the fans and commentators refer to them as.I wonder how LH feels being a teammate in Buttons McLaren and whether he ever saw that coming
I keed of course, but damn man, given how much people said he was entering the lions den, gonna be LH's lackey at MRL etc. JB's done a hell of a lot to turn that around.
Hell, the most impressive thing for me about JB isn't so much his performance on track, but how much work he's done over the years to lose the flaky playboy racer tag and actually go professional F1 driver, there certainly was a low point at the end on his Williams days where he was very much in danger of following the James Hunt/Jacques Villeneuve route into racing irrelevance and obscurity due to living it up and not driving well enough to support the lifestyle/career, hats off to the man, well damn played!
It pains me not to mention Schumacher, but on current form, he isn't among the upper echelon of F1.
Last years winner had it so everyone else copied it. If you cant get it banned get it copied.
The reasoning is a little more complicated by I truly believe its as much follow the leader as it is independent team innovation (and all end up with the same full-retard nose).
Edmond Dantès
Dantès the White
I wonder how Hamilton and co would fare against the nineties Schumacher.
His ruthlessness back then was unparalleled, so it wouldn't be a pretty site.
His ruthlessness back then was unparalleled, so it wouldn't be a pretty site.
I was one of those that thought button would find it hard to compete with Hamilton but I'm more than happy to admit I was proven wrong. The guy was awesome for mclaren last year and had in my eyes, a better season than his title winning year. I just hope that the top teams all have fairly comparable cars for Australia so we can have an amazing season from the start.
To those that have been watching the testing, how is the Ferrari looking? I'm at work during the times it's on and haven't been able to see any yet.
To those that have been watching the testing, how is the Ferrari looking? I'm at work during the times it's on and haven't been able to see any yet.
Ah well. Another season of watching Alonso dragging a dog of a car to good finishes.
Those quotes from pat fry are not exactly confidence building. Is there something fundamentally wrong with the car or just that they are off the pace?
Osiris
I permanently banned my 6 year old daughter from using the PS4 for mistakenly sending grief reports as it's too hard to watch or talk to her
Edmond Dantès;34988837 said:
I'll be honest, I don't think there's a single driver currently on the track who is as driven & ruthless as Schumacher was during those days, not even Schumy now, but if there was one who could be called close it would be Hamilton, it's just unfortunate that Hamiltons ruthlessness comes across as rashness due to his inexperience and inability to be quite as inch-precise as Schumacher was, you couldn't leave Schumy an inch in those days and not get punished for it.
Hamilton does show that same hunger and ability to pounce on the slightest opportunity, he just seems to lack the finesse and peripheral awareness to make it pay off, if he gets those (and he IS still young) then all bets are off and he'll truly join the greats.
http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/97464
HRT won't make it until the final test. I think they'll keep delaying, and the first time they'll turn a wheel will be FP1 in Melbourne. Jeez.
HRT won't make it until the final test. I think they'll keep delaying, and the first time they'll turn a wheel will be FP1 in Melbourne. Jeez.
Not for the first time either, last years effort was even more pathetic.
They should rename into Hilarious Racing Team
Edmond Dantès
Dantès the White
Edmond Dantès
Dantès the White
There doesn't seem to be anywhere for the air to go in the image of the RB8 without the front nose cone.
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