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[japtor]

Played a bit more Don Paccin. Still can't really tell what's going on but for the most part you blow up popcorn and slightly larger enemies, they drop gems of varying sizes that boost your shot, then you go into a boss battle where your robot things attack the boss (automatically?).

If you defeat the boss you get fuel, if not your shot resets to base level and you just continue on and go through another phase of regular enemies until you attack the boss again. I just ran out after failing to beat the boss the first time, from there it looks like you can pay for more fuel or something to continue in the level, or just get a game over and restart the level for free.

It seemed like you get the robot thingys after you beat levels. Hell if I know what to do from there but it kind of looks like you can equip them in different sets and pick which to take into a level.

...and I still haven't seen too many enemy bullets. It'll be interesting to see how this game is at later levels but I'm not sure I'll be able to get there without an english version. Depending how the game progresses I'm not sure I'd want to. It seems like it might be a slow grind, but actually knowing what the hell is happening might make it interesting.

 

[Cosmo Clock 21]

Sounds like CAVE x Puzzle & Dragons; I'll check it out over Thanksgiving weekend. Got way too many pad clones to play already lol

 

[danmaku]

I uploaded my 1+ trillion overflow in Saidaioujou if anyone wants to check it out. As far as I know, it's the only publicly available high scoring replay with the shot/laser type. (｀・ω・´)

Amazing! I can't watch it from work :3 but I'll do it asap.

 

[Cosmo Clock 21]

Played a bit of Dopacchin this morning. Like I thought it's a clone of Puzzle & Dragons; in fact the general framework down to menu layout is near identical. Just replace the dragons with robots and the puzzles with kusoge shmup. There's an overview of PAD mechanics here, and much of the stuff on the page directly transfers over to Donpacchin: http://pad.wikia.com/wiki/Game_Mechanics . Then go play PAD instead because this game is missing a lot of the polish that PAD built up over the course of 18 months.

I was able to play without making a Mobage account. Maybe they did make an account for me and I just didn't notice.

Google Play region locks apps by default. Android users can still sideload the app onto your phone provided you have access to the APK (which usually you can Google).

IAP consists of laundering your yen into Quartz, which can then be used to refill your AP (stamina) gauge, refuel, or roll Rare Gacha. Non-IAP players only get access to Medal Gacha (which probably only gives complete shit), Gold Gacha (costs 1 Gold ticket and seems to give mostly shit), and Silver Gacha (costs 1 Silver ticket and for some reason gives better stuff than Gold Gacha).

As for references to other CAVE games thus far I've seen the stage 1 boss from DOJ, a beetle from Mushimesama, and I think some Ketsui thing.

It's hellaciously stupid that the game locks you to one axis of movement. Part of what makes PAD fun to play in the endgame is that it rewards raw skill; by dumbing down danmaku you lose the ability to let the expanded audience grow into hardcore players. Also the art style is vomit inducing.

 

[SOME-MIST]

reduced to garbage
http://www.siliconera.com/2013/11/26/dodonpachi-developer-cave-releases-hello-kitty-game/

lets hope that this is yet another attempt to get a budget together for a new arcade shooter.

 

[BOTEC]

reduced to garbage
http://www.siliconera.com/2013/11/26/dodonpachi-developer-cave-releases-hello-kitty-game/

lets hope that this is yet another attempt to get a budget together for a new arcade shooter.

Dem IAP monies. Cave knows what it's doing.

 

[SonyToo!™]

I wouldn't touch those phone games with a barge pole but I'm secretly hoping CAVE are putting some of the money into making that multiplayer console shmup we kept on hearing about in interviews last year.

Just think of the possibilities of a CAVEd up twinkle star sprites.

 

[Hansel?]

Was there ever anything released worthwhile on the Wii (and not something like Ikaruga via GameCube BC)?

 

[Tain]

Cave-wise, nah. Might want to check the general shooter thread (http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=387185) if you're just looking for Wii shooters (my vote is Shikigami no Shiro III, there isn't a lot else imo).

 

[SOME-MIST]

Might as well ask shmup (shoot to the core) GAF since CAVE hasn't, but off the top of my head... milestone shooting collection 2, castle of shikigami 3, and if you're into rail shooters.. Sin and Punishment: Star Successor

 

[Hansel?]

Appreciate the responses. Guess it goes to show how much I know about the genre despite enjoying it quite a bit (not realizing Cave was its own specific thing). But I'll take a look and see.

 

[StarCreator]

Appreciate the responses. Guess it goes to show how much I know about the genre despite enjoying it quite a bit (not realizing Cave was its own specific thing). But I'll take a look and see.

Cave is the name of a company.

 

[Yes Boss!]

I want my Don Paccin!

Looks like it is going to be right up my alley!

 

[hipgnosis]

Started playing Mushihimesama Futari again. Now playing Black Label Maniac, gonna try how close I can get to a 1CC on that mode. Holy shit I love this game, still my favorite Cave title. I could play this forever and never get bored.

I've been also playing Saidaioujou. Super awesome game as well. The difficulty gives me those DOJ feels. Never have gotten past the mid-boss on stage 3 in Arcade HD, but I'm improving. Playing this game has made me better in Futari also.

 

[Cosmo Clock 21]

Quick and dirty Donpaccin tutorial

Seems to me like getting high scores revolves around balancing EXP gauge fillup (for shot upgrades) and maximizing your gem counter (at 100) before you enter attack phase.

 

[SOME-MIST]

welp, I finally made the shmups top 40 leaderboards for Progear (JPN). I died right before the last boss in stage 5 a few days ago..

made it to the same spot again a day later.. so I'm hoping to have the 1CC soon. nothing feels better than progress in CAVE games

 

[STG!]

welp, I finally made the shmups top 40 leaderboards for Progear (JPN).

Nice job! I've taken a little break from playing Progear, working on Ketsui now after just 1CC Mushihimesama Maniac mode, but I'll get back into it soon. I want to join the 100+ club, and 2-ALL it.

 

[SOME-MIST]

Nice job! I've taken a little break from playing Progear, working on Ketsui now after just 1CC Mushihimesama Maniac mode, but I'll get back into it soon. I want to join the 100+ club, and 2-ALL it.

thanks
yeah, I saw you up in 80 mil and I still can't even fathom how to score that well. I'm still stuck around 700k on S1 and 2.5 mil on S2. I still haven't watched any replays, but so far I found bolt/rivet most effective for my play style. I also can't handle the default setup like all the big scorers

 

[BOTEC]

Nice job SOME-MIST. I remember Progear was the game I tried to get serious at, but I gave up after a few days. I'm perfectly happy being a slacker STG player. I just like to shoot stuff and watch it blow up.

 

[STG!]

There's some things I haven't figured out as well, so you're not alone!

Those are some good scores to finish stage 1 and 2 with, although hitting the big streaming sections (and milking Tobiou) on those two stages will increase your score dramatically.

Since you're playing as Bolt you should check out this superplay by R., the rest of the parts are in the same youtube channel. Amazing what he pulls off, you can even use some of these strategies with Ring as well.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XvWHz6SKoWI

 

[SOME-MIST]

Nice job SOME-MIST. I remember Progear was the game I tried to get serious at, but I gave up after a few days. I'm perfectly happy being a slacker STG player. I just like to shoot stuff and watch it blow up.

thanks
I get hooked on specific shmups and after playing 'em enough, the 1CC seems more realistic. after that I usually just tough it out for a month for the clear. there's something about Progear and Akai Katana that get me hooked.

There's some things I haven't figured out as well, so you're not alone!

Those are some good scores to finish stage 1 and 2 with, although hitting the big streaming sections (and milking Tobiou) on those two stages will increase your score dramatically.

Since you're playing as Bolt you should check out this superplay by R., the rest of the parts are in the same youtube channel. Amazing what he pulls off, you can even use some of these strategies with Ring as well.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XvWHz6SKoWI

R.'s scoring is mindblowing.. he has an entirely different stage 1 approach than me. only watched through the first stage so far, but I picked up a few things from watching. playing risky for score (at least for me right now) is too crazy.

 

[SOME-MIST]

last two days were nothing but hours upon hours of attempts. got the final boss to phase 2 twice, and as long as my board keeps working (I think I'm having a connection issue again since I keep getting a "blue screen" instead of it booting), I should have it this weekend.

will be updating the hi-score thread once I get the clear.

 

[Ms. Tea]

Just a little PSA: limited coupon code for Espgaluda 2 Platinum from Solaris. I'd asked them why their pricing on Espgaluda 2 was higher than their other Cave Platinum releases, and they told me that a) their distributor charges them Y800 more for that game for some reason, and b) gave me a coupon code for Y600 off that game! They say the coupon is good for 5 uses and I've already used it - no idea if it's expired yet. Spoilered the code (and crossposting in the other shmup thread).

Spoiler

esp2coupon

Solaris's service has been awesome every time I've ordered from them.

 

[Dash Kappei]

Just a little PSA: limited coupon code for Espgaluda 2 Platinum from Solaris. I'd asked them why their pricing on Espgaluda 2 was higher than their other Cave Platinum releases, and they told me that a) their distributor charges them Y800 more for that game for some reason, and b) gave me a coupon code for Y600 off that game! They say the coupon is good for 5 uses and I've already used it - no idea if it's expired yet. Spoilered the code (and crossposting in the other shmup thread).

Spoiler

esp2coupon

Solaris's service has been awesome every time I've ordered from them.

Thanks! Just ordered a copy, I was actually missing this from my shmups collection 'cause I've never liked EspII (nor understood its intricacies, lol) but this might be a good chance to finally learn how to love the (smart)bomb!

 

[Coda]

I really wish Progear either had a Dreamcast port or a PS2 port.

 

[SOME-MIST]

I really wish Progear either had a Dreamcast port or a PS2 port.

if it were a port, it probably wouldn't be DC or PS2, but keep voting! I know I do every day and it's been battling for the top spot.

http://www.capcom.co.jp/game/public/fan/statistic/answer/1025?redirect_stop=1

プロギアの嵐 is progear.

 

[Coda]

Yeah I guess I meant back in the day, but I'd easily take a 360 port any day. Just voted though, sorry if I missed it but if this gets voted top spot it will be released or what?

 

[sixteen-bit]

lol yeah, what's the poll even for?

 

[SOME-MIST]

probably nothing tbh, but if anything other than a popularity poll...we will probably find out this month once the voting ends.

hopefully they're thinking of throwing a cps2 collection port together with the top contenders.

 

[Mikhal]

Capcom Arcade Cabinet Volume 2 is what I'm guessing.

 

[Jucksalbe]

Capcom Arcade Cabinet Volume 2 is what I'm guessing.

That'd be great. Loved the first one.

 

[Phoenix Fang]

Capcom Arcade Cabinet Volume 2 is what I'm guessing.

I think that's too late for them to even bother with unless its going to be on PS4 and Xbox One.

 

[Mikhal]

I'm thinking they'll just put it everywhere they can port to if they decide on a Capcom Arcade Cabinet 2.

 

[SOME-MIST]

I think that's too late for them to even bother with unless its going to be on PS4 and Xbox One.

not necessarily. there's still a much larger consumer base for the PS3/360 compared to new consoles. Granted, some games have been in development for over a year, but that's probably partly why many games releasing in 2014 are still exclusive to last gen consoles

i.e.

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Lightning Returns: FF13, Castlevania: Lords of Shadow 2, Tales of Symphonia Chronicles, South Park: The Stick of Truth, Dark Souls 2, Final Fantasy X/X-2 HD, Murdered: Soul Suspect, Persona 5, Tales of Xillia 2

these are 360/ps3/xb1/ps4
Thief, MGS5, Destiny, Dragon Age: Inquisition, Mad Max, The Evil Within

last gen consoles are still relevant.

 

[Jotamide]

Capcom Arcade Cabinet Volume 2 is what I'm guessing.

That would be too good. My money is on a sub-par iOS port.

 

[Tain]

I'm thinking they'll just put it everywhere they can port to if they decide on a Capcom Arcade Cabinet 2.

I didn't even think of this. That would be wonderful. Man.

 

[Dash Kappei]

Wait, Capcom Arcade Cabinet's emulation is not shitty? Time to spend some spacebucks then...

if it were a port, it probably wouldn't be DC or PS2, but keep voting! I know I do every day and it's been battling for the top spot.

http://www.capcom.co.jp/game/public/fan/statistic/answer/1025?redirect_stop=1

プロギアの嵐 is progear.

Voted

 

[system11]

Wait, Capcom Arcade Cabinet's emulation is not shitty? Time to spend some spacebucks then...

Well, it's not shitty, but it's not entirely accurate either. I made a list of faults with Black Tiger alone when it came out, but I forget where I posted it.

 

[Coda]

Having a Capcom Arcade Collection 2 is cool and all but it's not as cool as just a release of Progear (even if it was just on the marketplace online). I tend to not really dig collections, I dunno just seem like the games don't ever play to their best strengths. I know it's not realistic to do so in this market though now which is why I said earlier that I wished there was a PS2 or Dreamcast port because I'd love an original copy with box art and all, I just love that feeling of owning a certain shmup, pulling it out of your collection and saying it right to its face that you are going to pwn it.

 

[5amshift]

Where is the best place to buy Ketsui (PS3)?

Amazon, or AmiAmi. Do not go through Play-Asia.

 

[Quixzlizx]

Amazon, or AmiAmi. Do not go through Play-Asia.

Unfortunately, AmiAmi is sold out. I had to get my copy through Play-Asia.

 

[Yes Boss!]

Nothing wrong with P-A. Usually a little more expensive and the cheap shipping option can often take a bit longer to arrive, but a solid outfit.

 

[Dash Kappei]

Where is the best place to buy Ketsui (PS3)?

Solaris is the cheapest by a long shot.

 

[Quixzlizx]

Nothing wrong with P-A. Usually a little more expensive and the cheap shipping option can often take a bit longer to arrive, but a solid outfit.

I wouldn't expect to get any pre-order bonuses from them, though. I preordered Mushihime-sama Futari from them and didn't get a 1.01 DLC code : (

 

[Mr.McFist]

I have become addicted to shmups and am trying to acquire all region-free Cave releases. Where can I buy Muchi Muchi Pork! & Pink Sweets [Cave the Best Version] NEW at the cheapest price? The title seems to be out of print and unavailable at pretty much every site I've checked except amazon and ebay and don't particularly want to buy from there.

 

[danmaku]

Eurotaku still has it in store: http://www.eurotaku.com/webshop/product_info.php?products_id=3887

It's the standard version, not the re-release, though. They even have the LE!

 

[Mr.McFist]

What is the likelihood that Ketsui PS3 or Dodonpachi Saidaioujou Standard Editions will become as difficult as Muchi Muchi Pork! And Pink Sweets to find stock outside of amazon and ebay any time soon.
Any suggestions for best price on Ketsui PS3 or Dodonpachi Saidaioujou Standard Editions?

 

[Ms. Tea]

Solaris has good prices on both - Y6783 for SDOJ (or Y5567 used), Y6783 for Ketsui PS3 (Y5352 used).

(Not affiliated, just a happy customer!)

 

[nailbombxx]

Solaris is the cheapest by a long shot.

I've never bought any imports from anywhere but Amazon or Play-Asia, I can just use my American debit card to pay for things on Solaris, right?

 

[Mr.McFist]

Thanks for the link but I just bought both titles.
Got Dodonpachi Saidaioujou from YESASIA for US$61.99 with use of a $5 coupon that I forgot I even had and Ketsui from Nippon-Yasan for US$50.28.