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Yes Boss!

Member
Tons of announcements today:

Daifukkatsu BL DLC for 1200 points in early february

Daifukkatsu BL stand alone retail (same date as DLC) for about $50, featuring a Daifukkatsu/Ketsui mashup as an extra mode (complete with mashup boxart)

Pink Sweets/MMP dated for February 24th in both SE and LE sets (LE will have soundtrack CDs)

Lots of youtubes at the official Cave blog/Shmups/Cave-STG.

Announce Video:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K9jqQ3V66Xc&feature=youtube_gdata_player

Daifukkatsu BL:

http://www.cave.co.jp/gameonline/Xbox360/daifukkatu/black/

Pink Sweets/MMP:

http://www.cave.co.jp/gameonline/Xbox360/muchi-pink/
 
_dementia said:
How's Pink Sweets btw? Does it play like a Raizing game?
It plays like a Raizing game, except your rank can never decrease. You get a spammable bullet cancel shield to hide behind the max rank spews of bullets and lasers. Some of it looks impossible to dodge without bullet canceling. Superplay here:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tTr6osYut2c
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8g1A8BUWIj0
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tTr6osYut2c

Thanks for the announcement links.
 
Now Black Label raises some questions:

- Is the stand-alone disk only the original game + DLC on the same package? If so it is a great promotion, but the time to announce it is odd, since it will not help the current sale of DoDonPachi.

- Will it be a different release, i.e. different set of achievements?

I kind feel bad for getting the game now for almost US$ 100 (LE) + US$ 30 more next year for DLC when you could get both for US$ 65 at that time....
 
My japanese skills are really poor and online translations do not help, but it seems that the retail disc based Black Label only includes the Black Label modes, not the v1.5 modes in Ressurrection release:

"※こちらのパッケージ版には「怒首領蜂大復活Ver1.5」の内容は収録されておりませんので、ご注意ください。"

Am I reading it right?
 

Yes Boss!

Member
Chiaroscuro said:
My japanese skills are really poor and online translations do not help, but it seems that the retail disc based Black Label only includes the Black Label modes, not the v1.5 modes in Ressurrection release:

"※こちらのパッケージ版には「怒首領蜂大復活Ver1.5」の内容は収録されておりませんので、ご注意ください。"

Am I reading it right?
It is a budget release. I very much doubt 1.5 would be on there.

A good analog would be the Rockstar GTAIV and RDR stand-alones.

The big thing is the Ketsui Arrange mode, what you are paying an extra $30 for beyond the 1200 point DLC.
 

Yes Boss!

Member
amishpriest99 said:
Just paid for my Daifukkatsu order from AmiAmi...should have it by Mon/Tues. Can't wait :D. Now for some more Mushi Bug Panic until then...
I'm up to World 4 on MBP. Totally love it even if the controls can get a bit difficult at times. Great how there are tons of hidden things to find and collect...and the big jigsaw puzzle.

Wonder how it is selling? Currently there are about 9000 folks on the leaderboards.
 
amishpriest99 said:
Just paid for my Daifukkatsu order from AmiAmi...should have it by Mon/Tues. Can't wait :D. Now for some more Mushi Bug Panic until then...

I paid mine some days ago. Already got the shipping confirmation, but since I use SAL, it will take 3 weeks to arrive here.
 
Chiaroscuro said:
I paid mine some days ago. Already got the shipping confirmation, but since I use SAL, it will take 3 weeks to arrive here.

I had mine combined with a couple figures (RX-78 Robot Damashii FTW :D) so my order was only available just now. I rarely if ever do SAL since I know the wait would be unbearable.

Yes Boss! said:
I'm up to World 4 on MBP. Totally love it even if the controls can get a bit difficult at times. Great how there are tons of hidden things to find and collect...and the big jigsaw puzzle.

Wonder how it is selling? Currently there are about 9000 folks on the leaderboards.

Yeah, the controls take some getting used to, but I really love the design. The gameplay actually reminds me a lot of Rez/Panzer Dragoon Orta (only PD I've played) crossed with an arena shooter. I even really like the soundtrack :). I hope it is selling well enough that Cave will do some more original games.
 
Thanks for the updates YB! :D

Yes Boss! said:
Pink Sweets/MMP dated for February 24th in both SE and LE sets (LE will have soundtrack CDs)

So happy, yet so sad that it's February as I don't know if I'll be able to afford it that month :( Feb 24th alone is looking like a £150+ day for me with a trio of unmissable Japanese imports - Idolmaster 2, Zettai Zetsumei Toshi 4 and Pink Sweets/Muchi Muchi. Having said that, that would be one hell of a package to get with those 3 all in it!
 
JustAnotherOtaku said:
Thanks for the updates YB! :D



So happy, yet so sad that it's February as I don't know if I'll be able to afford it that month :( Feb 24th alone is looking like a £150+ day for me with a trio of unmissable Japanese imports - Idolmaster 2, Zettai Zetsumei Toshi 4 and Pink Sweets/Muchi Muchi. Having said that, that would be one hell of a package to get with those 3 all in it!


Oh no, I will have to sell a kidney in February: Idolm@ster 2, Catherine, and now PS/MMP and DDPF Black Label (will get both DLC and disc). And January was packed too, with GalGun and some other stuff.
 
Yes Boss! said:
It is a budget release. I very much doubt 1.5 would be on there.

A good analog would be the Rockstar GTAIV and RDR stand-alones.

The big thing is the Ketsui Arrange mode, what you are paying an extra $30 for beyond the 1200 point DLC.
I suppose that will save me the hassle of having to get points on my JP account if I can buy the retail disc BL instead.
 
Okay, stupid question time (and sorry if it's in the video's somewhere, can't watch them at work)...is the Daifukkatsu/Ketsui mashup mode something exclusive to the BL retail release?

Edit: Nevermind, read above a bit more closely lol.
 

danmaku

Member
50$ is hardly a "budget price". They really want to milk the shit out of their fans...

who am I fooling, I'll buy it anyway
 
danmaku said:
50$ is hardly a "budget price". They really want to milk the shit out of their fans...

who am I fooling, I'll buy it anyway

I've paid a lot more for a lot less in the past, so I'll definitely be getting it.
 
danmaku said:
50$ is hardly a "budget price". They really want to milk the shit out of their fans...

who am I fooling, I'll buy it anyway
Might be an experiment to test if the market would be okay with such a thing.
I wonder if Daifukketsui becomes DLC for DDPR later on.
 

hipgnosis

Member
Holy shit, that is pretty awesome!

The box-art is great too:

KkrkI.png


That Ketsui/DFK mash is awesome. So getting this even though I don't have the machine to play this yet.

That Ketsui arrange music sounds great also, so badass.
 

Bebpo

Banned
Yes Boss! said:
Tons of announcements today:

Daifukkatsu BL DLC for 1200 points in early february

Daifukkatsu BL stand alone retail (same date as DLC) for about $50, featuring a Daifukkatsu/Ketsui mashup as an extra mode (complete with mashup boxart)

Pink Sweets/MMP dated for February 24th in both SE and LE sets (LE will have soundtrack CDs)

Lots of youtubes at the official Cave blog/Shmups/Cave-STG.

Announce Video:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K9jqQ3V66Xc&feature=youtube_gdata_player

Daifukkatsu BL:

http://www.cave.co.jp/gameonline/Xbox360/daifukkatu/black/

Pink Sweets/MMP:

http://www.cave.co.jp/gameonline/Xbox360/muchi-pink/

Damn you Cave for taking my money!

When you say $50 for the BL/Ketsui mashup. Do you mean 5000yen? Or 3000yen? With the horrible exchange rate that makes a pretty big difference :p

And I'm still waiting for Cave to bring out a best price Death Smiles II. It's the only Cave shmup I've skipped at full price.

*edit, just checked. 5000yen. So it'll be $75-80 to import just for a new mode :\
Might have to pass on this. It sounds a little too hardcore for the money.
 
Yeah, I love Ketsui, but this announcement kinda ticks me off. Unless it uses a ton of new assets an extra $30 for an arrange mode seems excessive. The $15 or whatever for Black Label was bad enough.

How do 360 append discs even work? Do you install them and then play using the original game's disc or what?
 
What the fuck @ Daifukketsui. That's one of the most random things I've ever seen. Love that box art too.

February 2011 is gonna be hard to top: MvC3, MMP+PS, DFKBL DLC, DFKetsui god damn
 

Yes Boss!

Member
Bu..bu..but...that boxart! Surely it is worth the premium! That mode definitely looks to be killer. But, yeah, 5000 yen in four months is gonna equal near $70.

I love that Cave is trying all these formats and pricepoints. Fun stuff.

Seven Cave home releases this year.

Crazy.
 
iconoclast said:
What the fuck @ Daifukketsui. That's one of the most random things I've ever seen. Love that box art too.

February 2011 is gonna be hard to top: MvC3, MMP+PS, DFKBL DLC, DFKetsui god damn
I'm waiting for the non-BOHICA version of Marvel3 and I don't have a J-360 so I'm thanking my lucky stars. I would be broke as hell come spring otherwise.
 

InfiniteNine

Rolling Girl
Holy shit! Do want. I need to find that job faster so I can buy these when they come out.

On another note going back to Espgaluda II from Dodonpachi Dai Ou Jou I'm actually doing a lot better dodging all the bullets. :lol I'm still far from 1ccing it but I'm actually dodging a lot of the stuff that would kill me on sight.
 

hipgnosis

Member
Rummy Bunnz said:
How do 360 append discs even work? Do you install them and then play using the original game's disc or what?
It might not be an append disc though. Should be a separate release. Not sure though.
 

Yes Boss!

Member
Oh yeah, Japanese 3DS that month. Gonna be a pricey month for me, that is for certain ;-(

Man, I'm almost more excited for the Black Label/Ketsui Release than the one this week. I'm viewing it as a stand alone title. I played too much of the iPhone Resurrection over the last few months and it stole most of the thunder for the 360 title. Though, I've not played any shooters this week in an attempt to build the hype back up.

Let's see if NCS actually gets them out today.
 

Tain

Member
Honestly, I'm kinda hoping that the trend of Arrange modes not being worth it sticks and that I don't have to think about Daifukketsui. I wasn't planning on playing Black Label, either, but the ketsui one sounds like it might be awesome. :[

And man, that MMP/PS box art is mighty embarrassing. I'm sure the game is no better! Can't effin' wait either way, though; I'm looking forward to those two more than DFK.
 

Danny Dudekisser

I paid good money for this Dynex!
Ketsuipachi looks fucking insane. I generally don't care too much about black label shit or arrange modes, but yo. This looks nuts.
 

Bebpo

Banned
Tain said:
Honestly, I'm kinda hoping that the trend of Arrange modes not being worth it sticks and that I don't have to think about Daifukketsui. I wasn't planning on playing Black Label, either, but the ketsui one sounds like it might be awesome. :[

And man, that MMP/PS box art is mighty embarrassing. I'm sure the game is no better! Can't effin' wait either way, though; I'm looking forward to those two more than DFK.

:mad:

I really liked Ibara so I've been waiting excitedly for Pink Sweets since the PS2 days. So glad we're finally going to get it.

I don't know anything about Muchi Muchi Pork though. But hey it's a free game with my Pink Sweets! :)
 

Yes Boss!

Member
Bebpo said:
:mad:

I really liked Ibara so I've been waiting excitedly for Pink Sweets since the PS2 days. So glad we're finally going to get it.

I don't know anything about Muchi Muchi Pork though. But hey it's a free game with my Pink Sweets! :)
Be sure to go for the LE on that set...it comes with a Cave Festival mode that populates the Pink Sweets bosses into MMP!

Edit: Looks like the Festival version will come with all first-run discs, SE and LE! Just be sure to get your preorder in early.
 
Can anyone do a quick list of all the Cave shmups, past, present, and future releases for the 360 and Iphone?

I've been out of the loop, I just noticed new DDP and Pink Sweets ports incoming. I plan on importing a new 360 and buying a copy of every Cave game, and I want to make sure my collection is complete.

I figure I'll need at least a grand to get this project off the ground.
 

Bebpo

Banned
Post-PS2 gen Cave home releases:

Past:
Dodonpachi Daioujou Black Label
Death Smiles (US release as well)
Mushihime-sama Futari (region free)
Espgaluda 2 (region free; iphone version as well)
Ketsui
Ketsui Death Label (DS; boss rush only)
Death Smiles 2
Guwange (XBLA US release as well)

Present:
Dodonpachi Daifukkatsu (iphone version as well)

Future:
Dodonpachi Daifukkatsu Black Label w/Ketsui mode
Muchi Muchi Pork x Pink Sweets double game collection

Might've missed something.
 

Tain

Member
Bebpo said:
:mad:

I really liked Ibara so I've been waiting excitedly for Pink Sweets since the PS2 days. So glad we're finally going to get it.

I don't know anything about Muchi Muchi Pork though. But hey it's a free game with my Pink Sweets! :)

nonono

I meant that I'm sure the game is no less embarrassing. In terms of pig women. Because it will be animated and have sound, unlike the box.
 

Danny Dudekisser

I paid good money for this Dynex!
There's also rumors about Ibara and Ibara Kuro coming to XBLA, though that's obviously less definite. Still... something to consider.
 

RyanDG

Member
Chacranajxy said:
There's also rumors about Ibara and Ibara Kuro coming to XBLA, though that's obviously less definite. Still... something to consider.

Its not so much of a rumor as it was Cave stating that they were specifically considering it.

Edit - Oh! Sorry, didn't see the XBLA part of that at first. I didn't hear that one yet. I just heard that they were considering their options of a port. Didn't realize that XBLA was being considered for it.
 

Tain

Member
Given how poorly Ibara sold (from what I hear), I think it's a good candidate for an XBLA release. I would love to be able to play a good port. Wouldn't mind trying Kuro either.
 

shintoki

sparkle this bitch
Ibara to XBLA would be another day 1. I really, really want Pink Sweets/Muchi Pork to either be Regional free or brought over.
 

Yes Boss!

Member
Bebpo said:
Post-PS2 gen Cave home releases:

Past:
Dodonpachi Daioujou Black Label
Death Smiles (US release as well)
Mushihime-sama Futari (region free)
Espgaluda 2 (region free; iphone version as well)
Ketsui
Ketsui Death Label (DS; boss rush only)
Death Smiles 2
Guwange (XBLA US release as well)

Present:
Dodonpachi Daifukkatsu (iphone version as well)

Future:
Dodonpachi Daifukkatsu Black Label w/Ketsui mode
Muchi Muchi Pork x Pink Sweets double game collection

Might've missed something.
The only things I would add is:

Deathsmiles had a Platinum release (region-locked, also available as a games-on-demand via the J-Marketplace)
Deathsmiles Black Label DLC (1200 MS points, J-Marketplace)
Mushi Futari also had a Platinum release (region-free!)
Mushi Futari Black Label DLC (available on most Marketplaces worldwide, including NA)
Mushihimesama Bug Panic for iPhone/Touch (spin-off adventure game with a chibi Princess Reco)

And yay, I woke up to a shipping confirmation for Daifukkatsu from NCS. The wait begins!
 
_dementia said:
Might be an experiment to test if the market would be okay with such a thing.
I wonder if Daifukketsui becomes DLC for DDPR later on.


Usually Cave's LE are priced around 9.000yen, so 5.000yen i don't think is an exaggeration

Luckly i can buy those games with japanese prices, so despite the low change between euro and yen (grrrrrrrr), i will probably buy Daifukkatsu Black Label (it should be around 4.000yen)

honestly i like their decision, when i read the news i thought "damn, another 1200mps release" but when i saw the retail version i really was happy

i hope this will become the standard for future (especially for shmups):
you want just the update ? digital delivery
you want the update, a special cover and some other features ? retail version priced less than usual


so Cave, please make Ibara+ Ibara kuro as retail and digital delivery !
i don't wanna spend 100 euros or more for PS2 version :D
 
Just noticed that the Play x Play for Daifukkatsu is up on the Japanese Inside Xbox. These are always fun to watch.

Hikari fights Hibachi
:lol
 

danmaku

Member
My order from P-A arrived sooner than expected! :D
I put a few credits in the 3 main modes (360, and the 2 arrange) and here are some first impressions:

- The graphics are great. Espgaluda 2 had nice pastel colors (and I still prefer that style), but here everything is as bright and vibrant as possible. Later levels looks more like a disco than a space battle :lol it's a pleasure to see it running at 60 ultra-smooth fps with the obscene amount of stuff they put on screen. I think it's kind of a "point of no return" for Cave, they can't really make a game more crowded than this.

- Music... er... it's quite difficult to hear it, there's stuff exploding all the time!

- The 360 mode (=arcade in HD, no low-res mode this time) has 3 basic settings: Bomb, Power and Strong Style. Both Bomb and Strong style have autobomb... sooo disappointing. Coupled with the bullet-cancelling hyper, it makes the game far too easy. I reached the final stage on my first credit, and I wasn't even trying hard! I don't like this choice. I'm not a Cave god, actually I'm far from even being a "good" shmup player, but I love the feeling of "impossible" challenge that bullet hell games give me, and I think that having so many lives (in the end, that's what autobomb means) spoils that feeling. Oh well, I'll stick to Power mode. The scoring system is the traditional 'pachi chaining system, but much easier to keep than the past games, with a lot of bullet cancelling to increase the chain meter. The unlockable mid-bosses from DDP are a great idea!

- Arrange A is similar to DOJ, but you can switch between shot power up and laser power up anytime with a button instead of being force to choose one at the beginning of the game. Chaining is still done DFK-style, much easier than the original DOJ.

- Arrange B is... bizarre. I can't even understand what's going on. It's a pure score run, 1 level only. I'd better wait for a guide, as things seem to happen totally at random :lol

I need to play some more and see if the scoring system "clicks". I don't know if it'll last as long as Futari but surely it's gonna be a fun ride. Also, Aksys should be seriously considering this game for a localization. It's easy, it looks totally crazy and it hasn't a potentially off-putting theme like Death Smiles. Don't be fooled by the artworks, you see the robotic girls only for a few seconds during the game, this isn't a cute'em up, just a space shooter with some bizarre things thrown in.
 
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