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[EviLore]

Steve: I'm not playing it as a straight FPS. I'm finding out what the game lets me get away with, basically. Is the hardened sheriff someone not to be messed with when my character's fresh out of the vault? Instead of doing what appears to be a long multi-part quest chain for the storekeep to gain rewards, can I just kill her and take what I want?

This is an open-world non-linear post-apocalyptic wasteland, so it's important to know what the boundaries are, what I can and can't get away with, what I'll be punished for. I asked the game those questions and found my answers, then reported 'em here.

I am extremely glad that I don't play and "enjoy" games the way that you do.

Look, I've just been describing my experiences, describing how the game reacts to the actions I take. I haven't said that it sucks, or that people should avoid it, or that I'm playing it the "right" way, or that it's a pale imitation of Fallout 1 and 2. Spare me your bullshit.

 

[Fallout-NL]

Impressions below.

Damn :-/. That is pretty fucking bad.

 

[crowphoenix]

Traded in some games yesterday and got a surprising amount of money, so I was able to pick this up.

And man is it hard. The wastelands are truly a creepy place, and I've already run into two enemy types that I just can't kill. Even doing some of the side quests, I would have to distract them, and run, hoping that I could bypass them and get to my objective before I got killed. I'm constantly low on ammo and stimpacks, more often than not having to resort to finding a defensible location where I can fight one-on-one with the bat.

I'm still extremely confused about the game, but I imagine in time I'll figure everything out. I put my skills in lock pick, small arms, and speech. I guess, I'm playing a dashing rogue-type. I occasionally wish I'd picked medicine or science instead of speech, but I'm satisfied with my character.

 

[plagiarize]

okay so here goes. i couldn't get into Morrowind because of it's combat and broken levelling system. sorry guys, I just couldn't accept a game that didn't let you learn by failing... trying to manually level as a thief was SO much more expensive than just paying for the training, and the manually levelling thing really appealed to me as i don't like having to guess what will be fun before i can do it effectively, if you see what i mean.

how was the combat broken? well, for me, i just couldn't accept that a hit and a miss looked identical apart from the characters reaction. i'd sneak up close behind someone and put an arrow through the back of their head and nothing would happen. i hated that whether or not my arrow hit was a dice roll that wasn't visually represented in the path of the arrow through the air.

i thought oblivion might be better for me in those areas, and i gave that a try too, but i just couldn't get into the swords and sorcery and trudging all over what i saw as a pretty rote fantasy world.

usually for me i can't play RPGS unless the combat is fun in and of itself. i was hoping that a first person RPG might be different (loved loved loved the first Deus Ex). most RPGS are either boring diablo esque action RPGS where my skill is irrelevant even though it's real time, or they aren't real time at all. i can't personally get into a ROLE if i don't feel like i'm the one pulling the trigger or swinging the sword or what have you. a traditional fantasy setting (i hate that 80% of fantasy games take place in pretty much the same place rather than new imaginative areas) is another hurdle for me to overcome.

i didn't play the first two Fallouts, and based on having given Bethesda two chances already i had zero interest in Fallout 3.

that was until i saw VATS. i can't quite explain why VATS held such appeal to me. the similar 'pause and decide what you want to happen' feature in Mass Effect had had zero appeal to me. i don't like to tell my character what to do and then watch my character do it, I want to do it.

but VATS was so cinematic. the beautiful slow motion aftermath of a head being shot of a body... Fallout 3 jumped into my 'must buy' spot despite being the kind of game i regularly struggle to get into.

in Oblivion, i was fine until I came out of that cave. then i just kind of froze up. there were too many options for me. i didn't know what i wanted to be or do... and it just kind of stopped me doing anything.

Fallout 3 though, has a world that i genuinely want to explore. it doesn't take itself as seriously as The Elder Scroll games which have always felt like they had a stick up their ass to me, again... sorry.

the combat is kind of clunky... but not overly so. i can see where my bullets go even if i don't have a Deus Ex style crosshair.

i don't like my travel options... fast travel seems like a cheat, but walking back and forth to get new supplies and so on takes way too long, so i do fast travel quite a bit.

and VATS is awesome. the parts in the vault early on definately felt very Deus Ex. i already kind of want to replay that part to see how differently things can turn out for little Titty McGee the good natured but violent bisexual gunslinger.

hey, if you don't pose a threat to her she won't kill you. she might try to bribe you with sex or just talk you into a better deal, and she has been known to shack up with prostitutes.

i love the world and the exploration. i've gotten sucked into side quests when i was adamant that i would just focus on the main quest. sorry Dad, Titty is likely to try and help out any good looking man or woman even if that does mean delaying the search for you. you wanted her to stay in the vault anyhow, so she doesn't think you'll mind.

you can see the gaps in the way the world works. for me it's things like sleeping in the bed of a massacred family. that should have an impact on your character stats if you ask me. there should be a 'creepyness' along with Karma that goes up every time you do something like that.

i've been focussing on the small firearms, repairing, charm (or whatever that's called) and medical stuff. i'm not much of a hacker or a lock picker, but i want to be able to survive out and about as much as possible. money hasn't been too hard to come by thanks to Titty's smart mouth, even if she did sell all her weapons for a night with a whore the first chance she got.

i don't really care if she's a smart build or whatever... but i would have liked some presets as like i said, i really don't have much patience for that sort of thing.

 

[Beaulieu]

Instead of doing what appears to be a long multi-part quest chain for the storekeep to gain rewards, can I just kill her and take what I want?

Just so you know, Ive done less than a third of the multipart quest, and was rewarded with

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a perk that gives me immunity to crippled members when Im at high radiation toxicity.

You couldnt get that by killing her, and I guess that untill the end of the quest, ill get other stuff like that.

PS ; I really like the game, I dont think ill finish fable 2 because of it.

 

[Proc]

i don't really care if she's a smart build or whatever... but i would have liked some presets as like i said, i really don't have much patience for that sort of thing.

as would've I. I'm going to be focusing on social skills and the other fun sounding ones. A stat trainer for PC would be great to have after one play through.

 

[joeblackisback]

I hate this game. I hate it because I know I'm going to have to play it over and over again to see how scenarios play out differently based on my actions. So far I've played it pretty straight, and I just completed the Blood Ties side quest. I have resisted so far, but I'm having a really hard time suppressing my desire to be a huge dick to everybody I meet.

Also, I didn't have to kill the sheriff of megaton, as somebody in the saloon did it for me. I then proceeded to kill him and strip them both. Taking people's clothes kind of makes me feel like a perv, actually, but whatever.

Is anybody else finding that the guns just aren't effective against some enemies? I had an easier time just beating a radscorpion to death with a bat than shooting him with the assault rifle I got from the sheriff.

One last thing to note. I ran into a super mutant brute on my travels and, to no one's surprise, he killed the shit out of me. What made me laugh, though, was that when my lifeless body went flying, it took that trip SANS left arm. God knows where that thing went, but it certainly wasn't connected to the bloody stump of my shoulder anymore... :lol

 

[dammitmattt]

Look, I've just been describing my experiences, describing how the game reacts to the actions I take. I haven't said that it sucks, or that people should avoid it, or that I'm playing it the "right" way, or that it's a pale imitation of Fallout 1 and 2. Spare me your bullshit.

You sure did read into my comments. My point is that when I play these games, I don't immediately test the limits of the engine. I enjoy playing it through the first time the way that the developers wanted me to, only fucking around on subsequent playthroughs.

All games can be broken to some extent, but I prefer to find that out later rather than sooner, hence my original comment.

Such hostility, young man!

 

[Zeliard]

As soon as I stepped out of the vault, I didn't head to Megaton, I sort of wandered around and fought some enemies. Eventually I ended up at a run-down elementary school and entered it. Anyone end up there before going to Megaton? The school is where I ended my playing session last night since it was getting late, after fighting a few bandits in there. Still have more of the building to explore. So far, I'm enjoying it quite a bit. Yes, unfortunately, the issues EviLore highlighted do exist (it's evident even from the events/NPCs in the vault), and I had no real expectations it wouldn't be that way, but the game is otherwise more solid than I had anticipated.

There's no question it's a more impressive effort than Oblivion, particularly when it comes to the character-building (though this is obviously helped greatly by Fallout's SPECIAL system) and the world itself. The real-time combat is as clunky and non-entertaining as I had imagined it would be, but VATS is solid and fun (though targeted shots should have more importance, as EviLore mentioned). Another thing I'm liking so far is the music. I only have one radio station so far and it's talk radio, so not so much the songs, but the general vaguely ambient music when you're just walking around the world. It's spot-on and beautifully eerie. I have to get further in the game before I can make any more judgements on it (such as on the writing, which so far hasn't been particularly stunning, but it's still very early on).

The graphics are also a lot more impressive to me playing the game than they were looking at screenshots or even videos. The view distance in particular is absolutely massive and hugely impressive, and the lighting is often starkly beautiful from an artistic point of view. Indoors, it doesn't look very good (at least inside the vault), but outdoors is beautiful. I think they nailed the look. Most impressively and importantly, the game is very well-optimized. I have literally every value at its maximum setting (through the frontend), plus 16x AF and 4xAA @ 1680x1050, and I get 60 FPS indoors and 40-45 FPS outdoors. This is with a Q6600, 2gb RAM and 8800GTX.

The only technical issues I've been having are some occasional, random crashes to the desktop, which also unfortunately necessitates a reboot or the game won't launch back up. It seems to mostly happen either when an NPC interaction or VATS is triggered, though still fairly randomly. I've searched the net and it seems this issue is affecting quite a few other people - lots of complaints about it on the bethsoft forums. Hopefully it gets patched up soon, since those types of things suck when you're trying to get immersed in a certain game world.

 

[AgentOtaku]

PC version does have mod support, right? I heard some wacky rumour that it wouldn't...say it ain't so, GAF.

PC version didn't ship with an SDK ....Bethesda says they may still put one out down the road

 

[plagiarize]

I hate this game. I hate it because I know I'm going to have to play it over and over again to see how scenarios play out differently based on my actions. So far I've played it pretty straight, and I just completed the Blood Ties side quest. I have resisted so far, but I'm having a really hard time suppressing my desire to be a huge dick to everybody I meet.

Also, I didn't have to kill the sheriff of megaton, as somebody in the saloon did it for me. I then proceeded to kill him and strip them both. Taking people's clothes kind of makes me feel like a perv, actually, but whatever.

Is anybody else finding that the guns just aren't effective against some enemies? I had an easier time just beating a radscorpion to death with a bat than shooting him with the assault rifle I got from the sheriff.

One last thing to note. I ran into a super mutant brute on my travels and, to no one's surprise, he killed the shit out of me. What made me laugh, though, was that when my lifeless body went flying, it took that trip SANS left arm. God knows where that thing went, but it certainly wasn't connected to the bloody stump of my shoulder anymore... :lol

weirdly, super mutants are something i've found easier fighting WITHOUT VATS. seems that continuous fire on them puts them down quicker than VATS, retreat, VATS, retreat, etc.

i ran into two near a baseball net while doing the blood ties quest... one had a missile launcher. he killed me a few times before i just used my assault rifle in real time on him. i haven't run into a regular old mutant yet actually i don't think.

don't try and use bottlecap mines when someone has a missile launcher. deary me. you drop them right by your feet, a missile hits near you and sets off the bottlecap mine as well, and your torso goes flying through the air in slow motion missing most of it's limbs.

i'm loving the gore.

 

[fin]

Played for 3 hours last night. I'm not going to want this game to end.

 

[neoism]

Will someone tell me were

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"The Family is for the Blood Ties quest I looked in all 3 locations that guy on the bridge said and I can't find them.

 

[plagiarize]

Will someone tell me were

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"The Family is for the Blood Ties quest I looked in all 3 locations that guy on the bridge said and I can't find them.

i couldn't either BUT just after i went to bed i remembered

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that guy saying something about them going to their hideouts at night or something, so i'm going to talk to him again to find out WHEN they use their hideout and check them out either at night or day depending on what he says

 

[MrCompletely]

you can see the gaps in the way the world works. for me it's things like sleeping in the bed of a massacred family. that should have an impact on your character stats if you ask me. there should be a 'creepyness' along with Karma that goes up every time you do something like that.

I've definitely shacked up and cuddled with some mangled corpses for warmth, but why should that count against you? It's the wasteland. Anyone who isn't bat-shit insane would do the same thing... it's a matter of survival.

 

[Leonsito]

Game.es!

I have no idea why, but they seems to start selling the games already on some shops, I was lucky.

Also, they changed their release date on the web page, so that is what made me go to the store and ask and it seems that it's only for the 360, PS3 version still keep the 31/10 release date.

If they give you problems print this http://www.game.es/ficha/ficha.aspx?SKU=056085 that shows they they already have them in stock. Maybe they got it earlier on madrid because the warehouses are here? not sure about asturias but it's worth a try, oh yes

Oh shi-

First Fable 2 early release and now Fallout 3

 

[joeblackisback]

Will someone tell me were

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"The Family is for the Blood Ties quest I looked in all 3 locations that guy on the bridge said and I can't find them.

That's because they're not in any of those places.

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if you go to the seneca station, you run into a ghoul ultrajet maker and he tells you they're east somewhere. That somewhere ends up being a huge train depot called Meresti, I believe. It's surrounded by a fence (with a gate, obviously) so you should find it no prob. Be careful in the tunnels, though, there's booby traps all over.

 

[MMaRsu]

So I played this a bit, not on 360 but it is really fucking cool, the beginning at least .

Can't wait to pick this up!

Oh yeah, in the beginning I was pretty much a fucking asshole and I love it haha

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Lol butch running up to ask me to save his mum, I did save her though, then I shot his fucking head off, loser.

Hahahaha

 

[Zeliard]

PC version didn't ship with an SDK ....Bethesda says they may still put one out down the road

I hope they do. Fallout 3 is a tighter, more impressive and potentially more versatile skeleton of a game than Oblivion was, the latter of which ended up with some great mods that improved it hugely. Modders could do some really good things with Fallout 3 given the opportunity.

 

[fatigues_gasolini]

Ugh, played for a few hours last night, go to setup a Windows LIVE account, and go back into the game to find out it wiped ALL my saves. Time to start over.

 

[∀ Narayan]

I had to stop, last night, right when I got to Megaton. I got really tired and just couldn't play.

I'll give the game a go when I clean my room. All I can say is - I'm very impressed.

I gave my guy a warhawk hair-do and grizzled samurai facial hair. I also made all of his hair white. He looks awesome. :lol

 

[plagiarize]

So I played this a bit, not on 360 but it is really fucking cool, the beginning at least .

Can't wait to pick this up!

Oh yeah, in the beginning I was pretty much a fucking asshole and I love it haha

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Lol butch running up to ask me to save his mum, I did save her though, then I shot his fucking head off, loser.

Hahahaha

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i gave him a bat and told him to man up. i went to see how he was doing after a while and as he beat the last radroach to death and he went nuts about how awesome i was and how i was now his best friend. i think he (the game) thought i'd fought with him.

stupid butch

 

[Zeliard]

So I played this a bit, not on 360 but it is really fucking cool, the beginning at least .

Can't wait to pick this up!

Oh yeah, in the beginning I was pretty much a fucking asshole and I love it haha

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Lol butch running up to ask me to save his mum, I did save her though, then I shot his fucking head off, loser.

Hahahaha

With Butch, I

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told him to beg for his mom's life, and then told him to fuck off even after he did so. Afterwards, I was walking around and heard his mom screaming for help, so I went in the room she was in and killed the roaches surrounding her, and then talked to her. After she thanked me, I gave her forehead a quadruple dosage of bullet medicine via VATS. Butch came in running after that in rage and tried to attack me, so I shot his leg off. Needless to say, my character is an evil bastard.

Good times.

 

[Jugendstil]

I'm enjoying the game quite a bit. I'm still right at the beginning (just explored most of the elementary school and got to Megaton) but combat isn't that challenging. Just using the pistol from the vault, I've been able to headshot most enemies. Not to say that it's unsatisfying, but weren't people saying how difficult the combat is? I'm sure it gets trickier when fighting multiple enemies or super mutants, but my low level character is already surprisingly resilient.

 

[TheExodu5]

Coming from someone who hates Oblivion, I'm pleasently surprised by this game. Even though it plays like a shooter, it really does feel like an old-school CRPG, and I love it. This is mostly due to the awesome VATS system.

From what I'm hearing, people are saying they're having trouble getting passed parts on the map due to strong enemies. I really hope that's the case! I want to be motivated to level, so I can get stronger and explore more. This is where Oblivion failed so hard, since your skills and levels never mattered a single bit, as everything was the same level you were.

getting 60fps min on default High settings, anti-aliasing turned off as I'm running at 1920x1200. Screenshots size has been reduced. running on q6600 SLI GTX280 4gig 1066 corsair dominator 780i chipset 300gig velociraptor

Holy f'ing shit. You're making my PC cry! :lol

I'm still surprised how well the game runs though. With many character models on screen (even in a small indoor environment), the game definitely chugs quite a bit. But when I stepped outside, and saw beautiful terrain in every direction, running at a buttery smooth 60fps, I was really impressed. Running at High, 1440*900 (windowed mode), 2xAA, on an E6600 + 8800GT rig.

I wish I had your setup to really max this baby out though.

 

[SteveMeister]

A spoiler about Butch:

Spoiler

If you don't kill him while you're still in Vault 101, you may just run into him again later in your travels...

 

[TheExodu5]

A spoiler about Butch:

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If you don't kill him while you're still in Vault 101, you may just run into him again later in your travels...

Kind of figured that.

I wonder if Amata

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will try to kill me later on, seeing as how she was pretty pissed that I killed her dad

. :lol

 

[Zeliard]

A spoiler about Butch:

Spoiler

If you don't kill him while you're still in Vault 101, you may just run into him again later in your travels...

I figured/hoped that would be the case. In fact, I basically

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killed everybody in the vault that I could, knowing full-well that I could likely miss quests or other things from them later on and save those things for another playthrough. My next time through I'm going to play the polar opposite of my current character, to see how different an experience it'll be.

 

[Pellham]

I restarted the game last night after realizing I needed a higher repair skill to do the pipes quest in megaton. I went with 8 charisma (as opposed to 7) and was amazed at how much that 1 point made a difference in talking to people. Everyone liked me more, including the bullies. :lol Only asshole who still hated me was Jericho, I'm going to have to kill him later since he won't join me due to being too nice.

A spoiler about Butch:

Spoiler

If you don't kill him while you're still in Vault 101, you may just run into him again later in your travels...

What about the other kids, like Freddie, Paul, and Wally?

 

[SteveMeister]

Steve: I'm not playing it as a straight FPS. I'm finding out what the game lets me get away with, basically. Is the hardened sheriff someone not to be messed with when my character's fresh out of the vault? Instead of doing what appears to be a long multi-part quest chain for the storekeep to gain rewards, can I just kill her and take what I want?

Simms is a low-level character. You're supposed to be able to kill him off when you're at a low level, too. Try that with Jericho

You could kill Moira, but you won't get the XP you'd get for completing her quests, and some of the rewards she gives you are not things you can loot from her. Plus, her quests send you out to places in the Wasteland where you might just find additional quests and interesting locations to explore along the way. In addition, one of my favorite things about Fallout 3 is exploring the NPCs' themselves. Many of them have some pretty fascinating things to say.

 

[TheExodu5]

I solved the FPS "skipping" issue completely!! Yay!

I was looking for "FPS" related search strings in the fallout3.ini file and tried switching...

iFPSClamp=0

...to...

iFPSClamp=60

Now it runs absolutely flawlessly. I played for two hours and explored both indoor and outdoor locations and I'm getting a 100% flawless 60 fps with no skipping or blemishes of any kind. Looks fantastic. 4xAA 16xAF and mostly Ultra settings. The image quality looks like a bullshot on my Pioneer (which is to say, insanely smooth and clean). Furthermore, loading is insanely fast between everything (like 2-3 seconds) so the whole game feels very seamless now. The game just FEELS fantastic (I'm using the 360 pad, by the way).

I'd recommend ALL PC users make the above change as it seems like it should result in a smoother experience for everyone.

Loving the game too. I thought it would just be Oblivion with guns, but the atmosphere and dialog are so much more engaging. Can't wait to play more!!

What exactly do you mean by FPS skipping? At the birthday party, with all the character models, my framerate dropped to 30-40 and the game felt really choppy. I thought it was perhaps because I was running in Windowed mode, but maybe it was this skipping you were referring to. Maybe I'll try fullscreen...I hope I can get the constant 60fps you're talking about. I just got out of the vault, and it's a smooth 60fps...I'm just afraid running into 10 character models on-screen will kill the framerate again.

 

[Zeliard]

I restarted the game last night after realizing I needed a higher repair skill to do the pipes quest in megaton. I went with 8 charisma (as opposed to 7) and was amazed at how much that 1 point made a difference in talking to people. Everyone liked me more, including the bullies. :lol Only asshole who still hated me was Jericho, I'm going to have to kill him later since he won't join me due to being too nice.

Interesting. My charisma is at 7 and the bullies hated me.

 

[Pellham]

Interesting. My charisma is at 7 and the bullies hated me.

Yeah, I had 7 previously. This time around I was able to convince the bullies to leave Amata alone without even talking to Butch.

 

[EviLore]

Simms is a low-level character. You're supposed to be able to kill him off when you're at a low level, too. Try that with Jericho

Too late, he's a corpse already an' all. Just doing some final cleanup of the town before I set off the bomb, at this point.

 

[Zeliard]

Too late, he's a corpse already an' all. Just doing some final cleanup of the town before I set off the bomb, at this point.

Are you doing some quests in the town before destroying it, or just ignoring those and killing NPCs?

 

[bounchfx]

I'm loving it so far.

I also enjoy reading about people pushing the game to it's limits and seeing what can be done.

sure, some is disappointing but at the same time you can't expect too much. it is a game.

 

[JayDubya]

So basically, Evilore's account could mostly be remedied by a couple of things: a) making the Sheriff stronger, and b) having the consequences of murder being greater.

And well, maybe c) having children be kill-able, the same as anyone else.


And you can kind of see why each of the things is the case. Sort of. The Sheriff of the first town you come into should be pretty stout and require some character optimization, solid tactics, and a bit of luck to take down. He should totally be do-able, however. Optimizing everyone in town for a good screw-the-quests-give-me-all-your-stuff-and-die-motherfuckers murder spree is not generally the main concern for game balance, so it's kind of understandable that this was exploitable, and as others have said, Morrowind and Oblivion certainly had that problem as well, albeit due to level scaling.

It also sounds like they put too much good stuff in the Megaton armory. I wonder what fraction of a fraction of that you gain access to through doing the right thing. Sounds like some good thief skills might pay off if you don't want to be a sociopath.

I'm debating waiting until I have a nice PC to play this. PC titles pricedrop faster and copies seem to be readily available longer. Also, modding may be neccessary like with Oblivion, and apparently the game is most impressive on a PC, which is not a surprise.

 

[Rodeo Clown]

So I make my way through all the Supermutants (somehow) and end up at (Spoilers for about 5 hours in?)

Spoiler

the National Archive. I meet up with Sydney and we go down the rotunda elevator. We're fighting through to find the Declaration of Independence and she gets stuck in a room. I tried pushing her out the spot she's in, telling her "Let's go," but nothing. She just stands there.

Pic of what happened: http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3182/2984464190_6e2e873a54_o.jpg

 

[Justinian]

Are you doing some quests in the town before destroying it, or just ignoring those and killing NPCs?

Just let EvilLore complete his genocidal act!! Don't burden his conscience with guilt at having missed some quests.... besides, I'm sure karma will have its way eventually

 

[Haunted]

Impressions below. Discussion of Megaton, the first town, and nothing particularly plot or quest related, so not much to worry about in terms of spoilers:
[snip]

I have said it before, and I maintain that stance: since Fallout, only the Gothic games (the first one in particular) have evoked that same sense of absolute freedom of choice for me.


Trade-offs. :/

 

[EviLore]

Are you doing some quests in the town before destroying it, or just ignoring those and killing NPCs?

Mainly just the quest where you (Megaton obvious "spoiler" that Bethesda has talked about openly a bunch)

Spoiler

set off the nuke in the middle of town

. Figure that's appropriate ;b.

 

[Deadly]

So I'm hesitating on which platform I should pick this up. PC would be my prime choice but I'd have to upgrade it completely (I'm still on AGP :lol ), does the 360 version run really well? and is the controls pretty good or is keyboard+mouse the ideal form of play?

 

[Y2Kev]

weirdly, super mutants are something i've found easier fighting WITHOUT VATS. seems that continuous fire on them puts them down quicker than VATS, retreat, VATS, retreat, etc.

i ran into two near a baseball net while doing the blood ties quest... one had a missile launcher. he killed me a few times before i just used my assault rifle in real time on him. i haven't run into a regular old mutant yet actually i don't think.

don't try and use bottlecap mines when someone has a missile launcher. deary me. you drop them right by your feet, a missile hits near you and sets off the bottlecap mine as well, and your torso goes flying through the air in slow motion missing most of it's limbs.

i'm loving the gore.

They're bigger and therefore easier to hit IMO. Vats is good for getting them to drop their weapon though.

 

[Zeliard]

Just let EvilLore complete his genocidal act!! Don't burden his conscience with guilt at having missed some quests.... besides, I'm sure karma will have its way eventually

I'm just wondering because I can see easily myself going on some major rampage once I go to Megaton after finishing with the school, given the way my character trajectory is going so far. :lol

It's been confirmed that if your speech is high enough in FO3, you can once again (as before) lie to NPCs and tell them their quest has been completed even if you didn't even attempt it, and they'll believe you and reward you. I'm wondering if there's still the option of killing an NPC after they've already given you a certain quest and pick up your reward from their lifeless body (I guess that's provided they actually have it on them, which if it's something like bottle caps, they should).

 

[kamorra]

PC without a doubt

Your PC is fine and you'll still get all the achievements on your Gamertag if that is an issue for you since it's a LIVE enabled game.

How does this work? Do I have to input the Gamertag and PW from my 360 in Fallout 3? Or do I have to download some kind of client? Do the achievements show up on my 360 like I had played the Xbox version?

 

[MrCompletely]

minor item spoiler:

Spoiler

I picked up a naughty leopardskin print nighty that gives a +10 buff to speech. It's pretty hilarious that I have to don my pajamas to talk some sense into the insane people; who's crazier, the insane person or the person who needs to wear pajamas to talk to people?

 

[JayDubya]

Hrm. If you're going to nuke Megaton, you may as well kill everyone and loot everything. Otherwise, logically speaking, it would all be obliterated, and even if it weren't, walking back in that area should lead to an agonizingly slow death.

There's probably some magic Rad-X and Nuke-B-Gone or whatever available, but hopefully not that early on. :lol

 

[Ysiadmihi]

My framerate keeps going from 30+fps to downright unplayable...randomly. As in I can be in the middle of a fight where the where the game is running very smoothly, then suddenly it becomes unbearably choppy. This even happens indoors when I'm just walking around or talking to people. Setting the texture size to medium seemed to help for about five minutes, then it started up again...any ideas?

 

[plagiarize]

How does this work? Do I have to input the Gamertag and PW from my 360 in Fallout 3? Or do I have to download some kind of client? Do the achievements show up on my 360 like I had played the Xbox version?

you get a live access code on the manual that's like a CD key. you put that in and sign in with the same passport account that you used when you joined xbox live. the achievements show up like any other achievements. you'll be able to see and voice chat with all your 360 friends while playing the game.

you won't be able to have your 360 signed in while playing the game that way though.

here's my gamercard. you'd never know i played it on PC.

http://live.xbox.com/en-US/profile/profile.aspx?pp=0&GamerTag=plagiarize

 

[dammitmattt]

Hrm. If you're going to nuke Megaton, you may as well kill everyone and loot everything. Otherwise, logically speaking, it would all be obliterated, and even if it weren't, walking back in that area should lead to an agonizingly slow death.

There's probably some magic Rad-X and Nuke-B-Gone or whatever available, but hopefully not that early on. :lol

But only AFTER you've completed the quests that you find in the town!