The slipperiest of slopes - USA wants social media info from Visa applicants

I wonder if we'll reach a day where you'll be held fully responsible for what you put on the Internet.
 
It's a common sense and 100% reasonable thing to do.

The OP's trying to bend it to compare to China's extreme state control of all aspects of its citizens' lives does not speak well for the OP.
 
Just delete your social media profiles.
Ever since i did that like 8 years ago i feel liberated.
Everyone started to call me and knew instantly who were my friends and who to hang with.
 
I wonder if we'll reach a day where you'll be held fully responsible for what you put on the Internet.
Well months ago One of my coworker was fired becouse putting photos on facebook but he was at home "sick" i don't know the english Word for One Is sick and stay at home from work but payed,but theres some rules,he goes out to play soccer, becouse he was not sick,Just to have a week of relax,but someone have see the photos and showed to the boss
 
The State Department regulations say people will have to submit social media names and five years' worth of email addresses and phone numbers.

I find it more worrying that they demand information about your email adresses and phone number. Social media info is mostly information that people make public on purpose (and is optional anyway), but they're just admitting that they'll also go through your private communications, which shouldn't be legal.
 
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There's so many people that gloat about their crimes, or affiliations with real hate groups on social media. I mean if a guy has a message cheering on ISIS after they commit a terror act, do I want this guy coming into the country?

If you don't like it, just delete all your social media accounts or better yet don't have any to begin with. Social media is mankind's worst invention by far, there's a reason why we don't randomly engage with strangers on the streets about heavy topics. Plus it allows a vocal minority that wouldn't have a voice otherwise to pool together and make themselves feel important and try to make everybody as miserable as they are.
 
It's a common sense and 100% reasonable thing to do.

The OP's trying to bend it to compare to China's extreme state control of all aspects of its citizens' lives does not speak well for the OP.

I'm only comparing it to China by saying this is a slippery slope. Which it is. What if, the old great what if, every country adopts this approach? Should some people be viewed higher or lower in society because of their thoughts? Take neogaf as an example, it wasn't long ago that mods abused their power because of your thoughts on here. Sure it was only being banned from a website, now the government wants to ban people from working? How far is it until undesirables arent welcome in the country at all?

If you see nothing wrong with comments, taken out of context, sometimes years after the fact, affecting what happens in real life, then..well, I don't know what. That level of thinking is alien to me.

I would be interested to hear your reasons why this should be acceptable and what, if any, far reaching consequences you can see or think of?

Show me your point of view, I may be missing something that is keeping my thinking in a narrow field of view.
 
I'm only comparing it to China by saying this is a slippery slope. Which it is. What if, the old great what if, every country adopts this approach? Should some people be viewed higher or lower in society because of their thoughts? Take neogaf as an example, it wasn't long ago that mods abused their power because of your thoughts on here. Sure it was only being banned from a website, now the government wants to ban people from working? How far is it until undesirables arent welcome in the country at all?

If you see nothing wrong with comments, taken out of context, sometimes years after the fact, affecting what happens in real life, then..well, I don't know what. That level of thinking is alien to me.

I would be interested to hear your reasons why this should be acceptable and what, if any, far reaching consequences you can see or think of?

Show me your point of view, I may be missing something that is keeping my thinking in a narrow field of view.

It's very simple.

It seems after most terrorist attacks, it comes out after the fact that these guys were posting blatant support for terrorism on social media. Those are not the people that should be allowed to enter the US.

I think in the long term this will just make people with evil intent more cautious about what they post, or stick to darker corners of the web. But in the short term, it will prevent people who might want to commit attacks, and who were stupid about their online presence, from gaining access to the country.

Don't forget that there are currently a lot of displaced ISIS fighters.

I'm looking at it from a pragmatic perspective of harm reduction based on what I see as the circumstances in the real world today, not an ideological pool of what-ifs.
 
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