The Switch 2 (Eating Crow thread)

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This thread is just to have fun, please don't take anything personal.

This are some quotes from the Switch 2 spec leak thread back in 2024. About the Switch 2 being close to the PS4 Pro when docked.

Did you were on the right side or the wrong side?

Never beating graphically intensive PS4 games, even docked, with that memory bandwidth. It's going to be on par with PS4 graphics.
Can't wait to see the "it's between a Pro and a Series S" crowd to backtrack and state how much power doesn't matter when Nintendo will underclock the console so much it will barely reach Steam Deck camp.
Delusional Nintendo fanboys who think Switch 2 will come even close to PS5 or even Series S at a mere 7W TDP? Delusional fanboys who think DLSS is a magic solution despite being known to offload computing from GPU to CPU?

Yup, business as usual.
Upscaling from 540p to 1080p is bad business no matter what upscaling or reconstruction technique used. There simply isn't enough pixels to work with to make a decent image. This is why upscaling techniques really only becomes viable when base resolution is minimum of 1080p. And there will absolutely be a TDP limit even when docked. Why? Because the cooling is still the same. Docking does not magically add huge fans to cool down a 300W power output. Just look at Switch 1. You'll see even in docked, its TDP is highly modest compared to other consoles. Because it's still restricted by its handheld cooling.

If you're expecting more than from a Steam Deck, you're delusional. DLSS under these restricted settings (weak CPUs, low amount of compute units, low base resolution) is not at all comparable to a beefy PC using DLSS with a high-end CPU to support it. Such comparisons are meaningless.
This is where the Nintendo delusionist begin to show their true colors. Nvidia GPUs besting amd gpus in the desktop space has absolutely nothing to do with performance in the low power space. Keep in mind that at each price level where they compete, Amd is better in rasterization than Nvidia.

We don't even know what process node Nvidia is using for this chip but if it's Samsung 8nm, it's not going to be touching the Z1 extreme in the Rog Ally talk-less of the Series S. Some seriously low iq takes in this thread. Also, DLSS has a fixed cost to it and unfortunately, mobile hardware will not have as many tensor cores as desktop. We're talking about a tdp limited chip and people here are dropping clown level takes. Absolutely ridiculous.
Yes it's not.

It's actually more expensive cause Nvidia.

So you expect an Nvidia powered handheld on par with the Series S to cost 400 dollars?

When AMD powered handhelds cost 1000 dollars with the similar specs.

Yeah right.
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switch2 flopped

There were 2 at my Walmart 2 hours ago, and 5 at my Meijer. That's not me saying Switch 2 isn't selling though, there was a line at GameStop last night lol. I'm actually happy to see units in the wild, always good seeing an L for any scalpers at any release.
 
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Man, the Nintendo defence force has never been stronger on GAF and to think that it mainly consists of only 2 people! A few other posters should be taking notes.
 


switch2 flopped

I can imagine him dressing up, picking his car, driving all the way to his local walmart, to have his gotcha moment before 10 in the morning where a whooping 9 Nintendo Switches were left on the shelves.

I haven't seen him posting videos about Series S piling on shelves while the X and the PS5 were constantly sold out
 
here's a factual statement:

The GPU of the Switch 2 is not as powerful as the one of the PS4 Pro...

The GPU of the Switch 2 while docked is maybe 30 to 40 percent faster in raster performance than the base PS4's GPU.

so I am not sure how the tweet in the OP is wrong here
 
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My local Walmart had plenty as of 4:00 EST or and so did my Gamestop even though they had a pretty nice line already waiting last night at around 8:00
Same for my local Target as well. I don't necessarily think it's a lack of demand, more so I think Nintendo allocated a ton of stock for the US. I expect initial shipments to be sold out by the weekend, however.
 
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here's a factual statement:

The GPU of the Switch 2 is not as powerful as the one of the PS4 Pro...

The GPU of the Switch 2 while docked is maybe 30 to 40 percent faster in raster performance than the base PS4's GPU.

so I am not sure how the tweet in the OP is wrong here
Because it's misleading bullshit. You already understand why. Switch 2 haters are a strange breed.
 
Same for my local Target as well. I don't necessarily think it's a lack of demand, more so I think Nintendo allocated a ton of stock for the US. I expect initial shipments to be sold out by the weekend, however.
I agree that its a lot of stock, its why I removed his it flopped comment even if it was a joke :)
 
here's a factual statement:

The GPU of the Switch 2 is not as powerful as the one of the PS4 Pro...

The GPU of the Switch 2 while docked is maybe 30 to 40 percent faster in raster performance than the base PS4's GPU.

so I am not sure how the tweet in the OP is wrong here
This is the fact right now…

From "ElAnalistadeBits" X account:

"Switch 2 has better textures, global illumination and higher level of detail than Xbox Series S and PS4 Pro in Cyberpunk 2077. It also offers better general performance than PS4 Pro version"
 
This is the fact right now…

From "ElAnalistadeBits" X account:

"Switch 2 has better textures, global illumination and higher level of detail than Xbox Series S and PS4 Pro in Cyberpunk 2077. It also offers better general performance than PS4 Pro version"

it runs at half the resolution of the Series S, and at half the framerate of the Series S.

so, what's slightly less than half as powerful as the Series S GPU? the PS4's GPU

texture quality is memory based and not really much dependent on GPU performance.
 
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