Xbox 360 slim
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Your entire post history is dunking on Windows or Xbox/Microsoft, or defending sony. Lol, you're such a joke dude. Drop the charade and join iconera.
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The Year Without An Xbox: How will Xbox not putting forth an effort to sell Xbox Series consoles this year affect the gaming industry going forward?
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Ar¢tos
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Maybe you should take a look at your post history before accusing others of fanboyism...
You even posted the same "article" about a PS5 with a dildo in 2 different threads.
I mean, I love dildos, but a gaming forum might not be the ideal place for Linking those.
Xbox 360 slim
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I haven't played on Xbox in over 5 years. It's just too fun interacting with PS diehards on here.
No competition for Sony. Means all Sony fanboys take it up their asses with the wallet.
Xbox 360 slim
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They'll gladly pay sony whatever they want. Some guy on here legit said, 7th gen comp made Sony remove the PS2 backwards compat, Linux, and other feautres to make the PS3 cheaper. So therefore, no comp would have been better. Too far gone. Gamers get the industry they deserve.
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Unknown?
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A false narrative, Microsoft hasn't been competition for some time and right now even less than ever but Sony is the only one doing holiday deals.
Microsoft has the most fierce competition ever and they just gave up.
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Well, we should be seeing ports of God of war and spiderman to the Xbox series family. Since they're not competition anymore, right?
Unknown?
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No, we should see Steam taking their position.
Fess
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Does it matter? A decade ago you couldn't play Forza Motorsport 6 on PC either. Or Halo 5. A rare miss here and there didn't change the "everything is on PC" talk. It was all about the writing on the wall. A PC port, late or not, was expected around 2015, and the concern and trolling were constant because of that.
And today the same goes for Sony's games.
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Fess
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Even if all parts would be available, with RAM and GPU prices going rampant I don't think people will build their own Xbox Magnus to satisfaction without paying a lot more. I've seen DF try to build PCs for console budget and they're always a bit fat compromise.
There are games with presets for the Deck but that's an area where I'm hoping Valve will step in to improve things on Steam Machine.
I had a docked Steam Deck as my first living room PC. It was essentially a console. Superb user experience,
But it was too weak for modern games. And modding through Linux was a speedbump too much for me personally.
Seems like the same people start a lot of anti-Xbox threads 
Anyway.. Xbox's hardware exit strategy will benefit Sony / Nintendo in the short term.. but unless the console market starts expanding again, Sony will be making many similar moves to Xbox (as they already have in some cases).
Anyway.. Xbox's hardware exit strategy will benefit Sony / Nintendo in the short term.. but unless the console market starts expanding again, Sony will be making many similar moves to Xbox (as they already have in some cases).
Anti-Xbox? I said nothing negative about Xbox just spoke on the situation.Seems like the same people start a lot of anti-Xbox threads
Anyway.. Xbox's hardware exit strategy will benefit Sony / Nintendo in the short term.. but unless the console market starts expanding again, Sony will be making many similar moves to Xbox (as they already have in some cases).
Both titles were 2015 xbox one games. That is when the strategy changed. Anything post 2015 they released on PC. Yeah, it matters because that's what I'm referring to. we're talking about the people perpetuating this talk now. The exact specific people only. The people who were giddy and endorsing the even more redundant Series X with power king memes and saying how awesome it is just a few years ago. who have changed their tune and are now berating the "redundancy" of a console which is still getting games that aren't releasing on PC.
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Arsic
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Not totally wrong OP. This Black Friday I looked for series S deals for under $300. They do not exist and this console doesn't deserve more than $270 this late in the console gen plus the current state of Xbox overall. I just wanted a NG1&2 machine…
So I spent that same money I allotted on a meta quest 3. Minus the motion sickness it's been a great time.
So I spent that same money I allotted on a meta quest 3. Minus the motion sickness it's been a great time.
Again that guy
Unknown?
is right. What happened was that Sony was selling PS3 hardware at a massive loss. They aimed to recoup this loss by selling a certain amount of games to users. This didn't pan out because xbox 360 took away a lot of third party sales from the system and it became increasingly difficult to recoup costs. They were forced to cut costs on the hardware to "compete" and suffered losses throughout the gen which would have been worse had they not cut back. Their own fuck up for expecting no competition but what
Unknown?
said is correct.
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Fess
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Can't use the exact specific people, many are banned or go under alts or are on other boards.
Scrap the itty bitty details and the general consensus is the same:
* 10 years ago Xbox fans in general didn't like that PC ports of Xbox games were coming. PS fans in general applauded the change.
* Today PS fans in general don't like that PC ports of PS games are coming out. Xbox fans in general are applauding the change.
* MS started with games exclusive or timed to their own launcher. Steam versions arrived later.
* Sony started out with Steam. Their own launcher with exclusives or timed could arrive later.
* MS started out with paid online. It's rumored to be free next.
* Sony started out with free online. It's paid now.
You don't see it? Even if it's wobbly when you look close the circle is full. There are differences but it's mostly comical at this point.
And we haven't seen a new title in the Gran Turismo IP since GT7 to verify the strategies. But we can see that, Spider-Man, Last of Us, Horizon, Uncharted etc are on PC. Pretty sure we can add GT to the list soon, if that is through GT8 or GTSports 2 then so be it, same thing.
They did? Which ones? can you give examples? I can find numerous that were stanning for xbox post 2016 up until xbox practically gave up on consoles recently which quickly changed their tune. Xbox fans were not generally upset. I'm not sure where you're getting that from. Especially when they were still endorsing xbox with ALL of their games coming to PC day one. Now they find it difficult to endorse PS when it's getting all the games + the PS exclusives (timed or otherwise)
There were certainly people who had an xbox to play xbox games before that might have simply moved on but those aren't the specific fans I'm referring to.
Not sure I agree with that some PS fans dislike it but xbox fans are not applauding it. They're trying really hard to use it as console war ammo. Ammo they weren't using against xbox for a literal decade.
Ok? I'm not sure what youre getting at. This doesn't change the point.
and Astrobot? What about that, was that not after spiderman, LOU etc? Yes it was.
I'm not discussing their strategy or what will happen (some PC folks were suggesting the dates will reach day one almost 3 years ago). Demon's souls remake has been waiting how many years? I'm saying the xbox fans shouting out "redundant console" for a console that is getting exclusives even today is stupid when they were hyping up the most redundant console of all not long ago, that console being the xbox series. Xbox has been more redundant for a decade already but they hyped that up until the wheels fell off only recently, then they could no longer pretend so they made "consoles redundant". What kind of stupid logic they're using I will never know.
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Fess
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Diehard fans (shills?) are always stanning on everything their favorite company does, you know the type as well as me. The initial reaction among regular fans was the same though, it was a general concern for the purpose of the console and sometimes a sense of having wasted money on hardware no longer needed. Even though exclusives still existed, as pointed out, and the same goes for PS5 now, but "everything is on PC"…
Go back and search the early port threads in 2015 and compare with the first ones from Sony if you want. Small differences aren't important as I see it. The threads were there with roughly the same talk. Same, but different.
Next up. Launcher war! We already see it through Xbox App and Play Anywhere and SteamOS and eventually with Sony IF their own launcher appears with some bonus features.
I was around that time and I remember only a handful of people saying that there was little reason to own xbox, among them people like demigod who I wouldn't categorise as an xbox fan even if he owned one before. It's difficult to catagorise an xbox user from an "xbox fan" except the very obvious ones, and I'm not sure I can say in general those obvious people were concerned much. I was once an xbox user too and left with Quantum Break release.
The actual "xbox fans" I'm referring to were the type of people suggesting that it was an awesome move and one that only MS could make because "they own windows" and how "they're winning either way even if you go to windows store!".
As I said before:
the normal people post 2016 who simply said either "well I don't care either way I'm sticking with console" or "I'm going PC and didn't buy a Series X/S" are not who I have an issue with in this thread.
It's those who very recently hyped xbox, went out and bought series x, (knowing every single xbox game is on PC day one since 2016) and now, all of a sudden, are pretending that another console (which still has exclusives, timed and permanent) is pointless because their platform died. only when xbox collapsed not when they bought that pointless SX/S. It's those specific people I'm talking about when I said:
If you actually think about it you're just talking about regular PC fans/users in general here:
because why would "xbox fans" be reminding playstation fans that their console isn't needed when they are apparently "xbox fans". fans of the most redundant console which doesn't get ANY exclusives whatsoever since 2016, timed or otherwise. At least PS gets some and even more timed. It makes no sense logically for them to be saying that. That's my point. They're either not really "xbox fans" but just regular PC users or hypocritical twats berating the usefulness of console B for the sake of console wars while supporting (being fans of) the even worse situation of console A. Which I hope you agree makes no sense.
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Fess
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From my perspective nothing of the constant concern/trolling over consoles makes sense. It'll be even worse going forward since it's clear that everything is moving over to PC in one way or another, unless Sony simply pull out. And PC gaming, and Steam in particular, is moving very focused into the living room now. At some point people will question what makes consoles so special that skipping everything else makes sense.
I honestly think with ram prices high I think things will get pushed back. We probably won't see the Magnus for another two years so hopefully by that time prices have cooled off a bit. Yea and modding through Linux seems like a pain in the ass compared to windows a big reason why I'm not on the Linux wave and still on Windows 10.
Fess
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A couple months ago I would've said:
"The platform is already dead in retail so I guess pushing it back further wouldn't change much."
But now we know that a slick Steam Machine will arrive early next year at literally the exact same spot that Microsoft wants to place the supposed big bulky powerhouse Xbox Magnus. Console-like living room PC.
This complicates things!
I don't think a delay is going to fly now…
What Magnus will have over Steam Machine is essentially more convenient multi launcher capabilities. Power is said to be better too but if DF is needed to show that Magnus is better then they could just pack it up right now, it needs to be far far ahead.
Best case scenario would've been to have the console out by the time GTA6 arrives… Running a highly boosted Series X version.
But that's not happening.
Second best scenario would be to have it launching with Gears of War E-Day, Forza Horizon 6 and Fable, with Halo Campaign Evolved out during the launch window and The Elder Scrolls 6 unveiled during launch PR and out within the first year. Everything needs to be best of the best on performance and visuals for the living room, nothing should surpass it unless you have a beastly PC.
Could that happen? Sure. But is it likely? Nah.
I personally dont think consoles by PlayStation and Nintendo require any kind of concern/trolling now or in the future. I'm not sure what skipping everything else means because there isn't many things skipping the console either. You have to realise that PS is getting previously exclusive PC games now too. Flight sim, gears, halo, etc. It's begun to get some of those day one now even, while retaining some exclusive releases too (some permanent some timed). When I think of games that didn't come to my PS5 or Switch within the past year or so it's usually popular early access stuff like R.E.P.O that I can think of, then when I think of games that didn't come to my PC but come to my switch or PS it's games like
Zelda: Echoes of Wisdom, Mario Party,
Death Stranding 2, Ghost of Yotei, Astrobot, etc. I'm sure there are plenty more titles I don't pay attention to for PC only but I think the things console only users are "skipping" in comparison is being overblown. All while PS is getting the benefit of previous big PC titles like Forza Horizon and Flight Sim it didn't have before. The console is seeing more of a benefit imo but that may not be the case for people who value games like R.E.P.O etc.
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As long as Sony provides hardware that's cheaper than a pc they will be fine. You act like steam moving in the living like it's some game changer no the fuck it isn't. Ain't nobody going to give flying fuck about that pc disguised as a console it ain't the steam deck where its a portable and on the go. Besides console style pcs are nothing new matter of fact I had one of the first ones the Alienware x51 and it didn't do shit in the pc landscape when it came out. Like some of you don't realize how niche these things will be. Sony and Nintendo dominate the tv when it comes to gaming besides when it comes to pc and tv you always have the option putting a laptop, portable or desks top to the tv anyway If it's really that important. Sony will always have its place as long as they don't go too crazy with the price and continue to bring game changing first party games to the platform.
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Katatonic
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MS isn't owed seat at the table.