that's why they also need to work on more end game content outside of DZ
Sounds like they're covering all angles
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that's why they also need to work on more end game content outside of DZ
Sounds like they're covering all angles
Horseticuffs
Full werewolf off the buckle
I was just talking with my bro last night about how, as a PvE dude, I love the emergent gameplay of the DZ. You've got crazy, unpredictable NPCs coming from everywhere AND the tension of potentially rogue agents all over. To me it's what I always wanted in Destiny as someone who didn't have the time to dedicate to raiding.
wesleyshark
Banned
I'm leveling a second character right now that will be a high skill build. Figured it would be easier to roll a separate character instead of trying to change things on my main and carry different armor and mods.
firehawk12
Subete no aware
I don't even know what they could do to make PvE more viable outside of rotating out the blueprints as soon as possible. I suppose the easiest fix would be ways to earn division tech without ever setting foot within the dark zone.
excaliburps
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Noob question, but are Performance mods any good? I mostly use Superior Advanced Electronics/Stamina/Firearms mods due to the much needed stat boost. Performance mods mostly give weird buffs that are kinda useless, right? Or am I missing something?
noomi
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Hmmm, nice. Will try that.
When a rogue pops up on the radar, if I quickly switch to the main map I am never able to locate that icon quickly enough though... So for the most part its a guessing game.
VE3TRO
Formerly Gizmowned
We saw a guy last night on our radar about 3 zones away so we took about a good 5 minutes to him. Got there and the rogue emblem was flashing on the map but nothing there.
After looking around I saw his body on the floor but I don't think he'd been killed so he must have disconnected or glitched.
Luckily on the way back a single guy with man hunt popped up so we chased him down and got him. He purposly did it and he dropped like 8 greens lol.
noomi
Member
This happens to my group ALL THE TIME!
It seems after you kill a rogue, if they chose not to respawn and their body just stays on the floor the icon will remain there until they respawn.
more challenge level missions, incursions/raids and the daily/weekly accomplishments could leave you with plenty to do without touching DZ, but yes, they have to balance out the gear and currency drops so it's just as worthwhile as DZ, especially if they're making DZ even more ruthless (which I also think is a great thing)
wesleyshark
Banned
Lmao. Troll level: Acceptable
It's also bugged. I've seen rogue timers remain even after the person respawned. Quite annoying.
I imagine that is a void that will be filled by "the raid". In fact, with gear set items dropping in there, Im curious to know how DZ itemization will evolve to match it.
Never used them. Had two high-end drops yesterday. Both were performance mods. They just don't do enough when balanced against what a stat boost mod would.
Doc Holliday
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SumptuousLemur
Banned
State of the Game stream sure was boring. No patch or fixes this week, no update on Operations (with April next week I'm guessing we won't see them until the end of April) and not much else.
They did state they will be changing Division Tech, didn't explain how but that is good news since they Tweeted they had no plans to do so earlier last week.
They did state they will be changing Division Tech, didn't explain how but that is good news since they Tweeted they had no plans to do so earlier last week.
Well, that's lame. Gotta be a bug.
Cob32
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Yea I was kinda hoping it was before dark souls 3.
firehawk12
Subete no aware
Well, if the only way to get geared up for the incursion is through dark zone, you're kind of screwed anyway. Right now people are using exploits in order to farm bosses in the PvE levels over and over again because it's just easier than dealing with dark zone. If nothing else, it's an easy source of parts without having to deal with the pain of needing to extract useless purples from the DZ.
I suppose it's wait and see, but I find it strange that none of this was put into the game in the first place. I guess they just assume that all the "hardcore" players just want PvP... which I find odd when a game like Diablo 3 exists.
So it's the AIs opening all the division tech boxes leaving them empty... lolJust make believe the players are npc's with amazing AI, problem solved
wesleyshark
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wesleyshark
Banned
They can't fix what they haven't nailed down as a fix.... They only just figured it out.
They said it was hard to replicate as it doesn't affect everyone that creates a backpack.
wesleyshark
Banned
Well, you went rogue....
Who knows, but I would be surprised if they tune these things under the expectation that everyone doing them has bis gear. If they are then they'll have to nerf them a day later because in a game with layer after layer of RNG that's a really unfair assumption. People would be using exploits regardless, especially in this game where there are no consequences and the dev takes weeks to patch them.
DeathSr
cartoon_soldier
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Keep getting disconnected today morning
wesleyshark
Banned
There's no place for humor in the dark zone.
arts&crafts
Member
Although that happens to me a lot and sometimes people realize it was a mistake, but when there are 4 or 5 red players shooting you, you dont have time to see who was a mistake.
VE3TRO
Formerly Gizmowned
What scrubs lol.
I hope the enemies get laser turrets that scissor us into oblivion. And napalm bombs that cover the ground wherever you walk. Also I would like for every enemy to have a riot shield and cycling immunity. They should one shot you behind cover as well.
You make me sad.
firehawk12
Subete no aware
Yeah, when they say the incursion is so hard that they can't even finish it, I have to wonder if that's because of the mechanics or if it's because they aren't properly geared.
I think the fact that people are farming the bosses in the PvE levels shows that there is some demand for some PvE content that allows for farming. I hope that they introduce something soon, because I assume they're going to patch out the PvE boss farming at some point just like they patched out the BK farming.
I'd love a permanent PvP area if that also meant there could be a permanent PvE area. Give everyone what they want and make everyone happy... that's a novel idea.
arts&crafts
Member
The game doesnt drop any loot (except materials) you have to craft loot
For example after 100 hours i hit level 50 DZ last night, bought 3 HE armor blueprints and a marksman rifle blueprint. I crafted them all and now I am full HE. Before that I was using a purple level 28 glove..
noomi
Member
Division tech farming too :/
Agreed. When the last patch was borked I managed to get 15mins of free for all action on the DZ and it was intense.
There is a permanent PvE area. It's called the rest of the map.
I would just consider that an extension of crafting since technically purple farming would fall under that too.
Meus Renaissance
Member
I'm a Lv13, and I'm finding the encounters for The Tech Wing really tasking. Help, please.
wesleyshark
Banned
🎶 Just me and my workbench at the end of the world 🎶
TheLetdown
Member
I spent Phoenix Credits to recalibrate my mask twice to get the 2 mod slot, after trying a few before and getting no good drops.
Then, last night I get as a CM reward a Firearms mask with a natural 2 slot. Sometimes the game just trolls you like that.
Especially since it happened after a bit of a disaster of a DZ trip with matchmaking randoms.
cantona222
Member
How do missions behave diffirently if I play by myself or with 3 people (Difficulty wise)?
Pick up a "yellow casual jacket", so I'm hoping its a over the top yellow jacket, like, neon yellow, totally over the top. The thing isn't even yellow, its green, brown, and black, the hell?
I hope they sort out their naming scheme of appearance items at some point. I'm not a fan of random names, "trendy" "modern" "cool" when they don't always mean the same thing, my modern scarf is black and my modern jacket is white.
Also, I want more items, where's some cool masks or hoods, or shit, the enemies have them, why can't I have a cool cape, lol.
On normal and hard the number of players affects enemy numbers and their difficulty. So on normal on yourself you might walk into a room with 3 guys, with more players there might be double or triple. Then on hard the same but instead of normal enemies you get purple and yellow ones which are harder.
When you get to level 30 it unlocks challenging on some missions which is always the same regardless of how many players there are.
I hope they sort out their naming scheme of appearance items at some point. I'm not a fan of random names, "trendy" "modern" "cool" when they don't always mean the same thing, my modern scarf is black and my modern jacket is white.
Also, I want more items, where's some cool masks or hoods, or shit, the enemies have them, why can't I have a cool cape, lol.
On normal and hard the number of players affects enemy numbers and their difficulty. So on normal on yourself you might walk into a room with 3 guys, with more players there might be double or triple. Then on hard the same but instead of normal enemies you get purple and yellow ones which are harder.
When you get to level 30 it unlocks challenging on some missions which is always the same regardless of how many players there are.
I agree. I've seen you mention Diablo and I've said often that I wish the devs would pull away from the MMO-lite design that they seem to be going for and look at Diablo for inspiration. Instead of pve becoming "raid or die", I'd much rather see stuff more along the lines of Greater Rifts and Adventure mode to give pve content some replay ability.
wesleyshark
Banned
Fucking lol
shanafan
Member
I think the DZ is appropriately being what it is supposed to be. To get high level gear, there needs to be a challenge associated with that. What better than other players presenting that challenge than just bullet sponge bosses over and over again. I love the feel of the anxiety it presents as well.
The players who are griefing others in the DZ are playing it right. If they grief you, then get back in there and take them out. That's the point of it.
If someone is blocking an entrance, well go use another entrance
Then the current state of the game isn't for your play style then. You can play missions on a higher difficulty to get better loot, so there is that. But, the DZ is one of the main points of the game.
The players who are griefing others in the DZ are playing it right. If they grief you, then get back in there and take them out. That's the point of it.
If someone is blocking an entrance, well go use another entrance
Then the current state of the game isn't for your play style then. You can play missions on a higher difficulty to get better loot, so there is that. But, the DZ is one of the main points of the game.
Ruthless_Barbarian
Member
So, can we craft HE backpacks or not?
If someone is blocking an entrance, well go use another entrance
There's no space for logic and options in the Dank Zone. Get that outta here.
wesleyshark
Banned
Dark Zone Changes
Changes to the Dark Zone have moved the statistics of players engaging in the areas content into a more desired range. The developers are happy with the current state of the Dark Zone and have found that people are, on average, spending twice as long in this area than other areas of the game.
Can't wait to
get back into the dz tonight
Changes to the Dark Zone have moved the statistics of players engaging in the areas content into a more desired range. The developers are happy with the current state of the Dark Zone and have found that people are, on average, spending twice as long in this area than other areas of the game.
Can't wait to
gank scrubs
From what I can tell, as long as you don't log out with more than 40 items in your backpack you are good to go.
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