Tom Cruise says he can run 17mph.

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On Regis and Kelly he said while they were filming MI3 that he had some people on the set record his running speed. There is no way in hell this is possible. Of course all of the dumb whores in the audience appluad him and drool.
 
You can run a lot faster when you don't have all that excess thetan weight slowing you down.
 
MagicJackBauer said:
There is no way in hell this is possible.

Yes it is. The last time i checked, the top human running speed was at 28MPH. Of course, you wouldn't be able to sustain it for a great deal of time, but it definitely is possible.

Top athelets can dash at a speed of 23.03 mph (~36.85 km/h, 10.24 m/s) within a short distance like 200 metres sprint.

It's from Wikipedia, though, so take it for what you will.

Maurice Green, the world record holder in the 100m dash, ran about 10.2 m/s (almost 25mph). An average human like me can do about 10mph, yes. So there is a lot of variability in humans, at least, when we train singlemindedly. But an average human would need to run in order to outpace even a fast-walking tyrannosaur, if our models are accurate.

From a Cornell website, but that's from 2002.
 
Zaptruder said:
17mph will complete a hundred meter dash in approximately 13.5 seconds.

It's not *that* fast.
exactly... if it's a sprint, with his physical condition, I could actually easily see him doing this.
 
MagicJackBauer said:
On Regis and Kelly he said while they were filming MI3 that he had some people on the set record his running speed. There is no way in hell this is possible. Of course all of the dumb whores in the audience appluad him and drool.

And of course message board posters with nothing better to do will post jumping on the "Hate Tom Cruise Bandwagon" without even checking to see if its possible.
 
Olympic runner strain their bodies to be in such a great shape so they can run at those speeds. Tom Cruise is nowhere near being in their league.
 
I used to be able to sprint around that fast. Of course, there's no way I could keep it up for longer than a minute for that matter.
 
MagicJackBauer said:
Olympic runner strain their bodies to be in such a great shape so they can run at those speeds. Tom Cruise is nowhere near being in their league.

You're not listening, 17 mph is not that fast.

13.5 seconds 100m, girls on high school track teams can run that.
 
I've hit 12 MPH on three different treadmills before, and I'm a fatass. I believe it's possible, just as it's possible Kevin Costner could throw a baseball in the 80's.
 
We have found evidence which supports this fact:

mi39ry.jpg


BEFORE

shot_trailer_mi3.jpg


AFTER

17mph not possible? I'm sorry but impossible is this man's job.
 
distantmantra said:
Maybe 17mph for 10 seconds!

I thought drugs were frowned upon by Scientology, because Cruise is clearly smoking crack.
Seriously.

What the hell happened to this guy? I can't stand to watch him do anything for more than 2 seconds now. And as a result I might skip out on the next Mission Impossible movie. It'll probably suck, though. The first movie was great.
 
pinkatrophe said:
Yes it is. The last time i checked, the top human running speed was at 28MPH. Of course, you wouldn't be able to sustain it for a great deal of time, but it definitely is possible.

That's why this is hilarious.
 
MagicJackBauer said:
Olympic runner strain their bodies to be in such a great shape so they can run at those speeds. Tom Cruise is nowhere near being in their league.

o.0
Clearly you've never run the 100m sprint... 17 mph isn't fast at all....

I mean, really, wtf @ this thread. If I could take a shit on this thread, I would.
 
Cold-Steel said:
We have found evidence which supports this fact:

mi39ry.jpg


BEFORE

shot_trailer_mi3.jpg


AFTER

17mph not possible? I'm sorry but impossible is this man's job.

A little off topic...



Does it bother anyone else that the angle of the explosion relative to his angle seems way off? I mean the explosion is right behind him but he goes almost entirely to the right. Seems like it's nearly 45 degrees off.

This is something that's been bothering me since I saw the very first trailer. It just doesn't look right at all and I'm surprised they let that go in post-production.
 
It's not that fast, it's achievable in sprints and besides the average top speed acheivable for a human has been rated around 24 mph and this is 7 mph below that.

Pffttt...just another Tom Cruise haterade excuse.
 
The Shadow said:
A little off topic...



Does it bother anyone else that the angle of the explosion relative to his angle seems way off? I mean the explosion is right behind him but he goes almost entirely to the right. Seems like it's nearly 45 degrees off.

Perspective, the car is at an angle and they needed a good reason to smash a domestic.
 
The Shadow said:
A little off topic...



Does it bother anyone else that the angle of the explosion relative to his angle seems way off? I mean the explosion is right behind him but he goes almost entirely to the right. Seems like it's nearly 45 degrees off.

This is something that's been bothering me since I saw the very first trailer. It just doesn't look right at all and I'm surprised they let that go in post-production.
So you've seen people be involved or have been personally involved in getting blown away by an explosion like that to know exactly where a human would go?
 
Liu Kang Baking A Pie said:
So you've seen people be involved or have been personally involved in getting blown away by an explosion like that to know exactly where a human would go?

Oh LOL! You got me there.

Well no, you didn't. Frankly I have a hard time believing someone would fly perpendicular to the direction of a force exerted on them. You know, pesky Newtonian physics and everything.
 
The Shadow said:
A little off topic...



Does it bother anyone else that the angle of the explosion relative to his angle seems way off? I mean the explosion is right behind him but he goes almost entirely to the right. Seems like it's nearly 45 degrees off.

This is something that's been bothering me since I saw the very first trailer. It just doesn't look right at all and I'm surprised they let that go in post-production.
It gets me everytime. It's in EVERY advertisement too. It's like they want to advertise how bad it looks. It's one of the most absurd things I've ever seen in a movie.
 
Iamthegamer said:
It gets me everytime. It's in EVERY advertisement too. It's like they want to advertise how bad it looks. It's one of the most absurd things I've ever seen in a movie.

Allegedly the scene rotates so it makes more sense since the perspective is changing while it's happening. It still doesn't look right though and it doesn't look like the perspective is changing at all.

I'm hoping the effect looks better in the theater. I'm going to see it tomorrow.
 
Fresh Prince said:
How fast can Jack Bauer run, Jack Bauer lovers?

Well, he (Season 5 spoilers)
outran an explosion at a natural gas refinery and didn't get touched only to run back into the explosion to get the main villain and come out of it alive
. :)
 
This thread has inspired me to resume my old avatar.

The Shadow said:
A little off topic...



Does it bother anyone else that the angle of the explosion relative to his angle seems way off? I mean the explosion is right behind him but he goes almost entirely to the right. Seems like it's nearly 45 degrees off.

This is something that's been bothering me since I saw the very first trailer. It just doesn't look right at all and I'm surprised they let that go in post-production.

No, it doesn't bother me because, like Liu Kang said, I haven't seen something like this happen in real life. And I'm sure physics are so wrong in most Hollywood films yet *look* like how one would expect that I always imagined the M:I:III scene happening in reverse: it looks wrong yet I'm sure it's probably how it would work in reality.

Besides, this scene is the only scene in a trailer that has ever made me say "HOLY SHIT" audibly. I think it'd look so much lamer if he just flew forward.
 
Yeah, that's entirely plausible. In high school track I was clocked at about 15mph, and I was a pretty shitty track runner with much less meat and muscle on me than Tom Cruise. I'm sure he could get that extra two mph.
 
pinkatrophe said:
This thread has inspired me to resume my old avatar.



No, it doesn't bother me because, like Liu Kang said, I haven't seen something like this happen in real life. And I'm sure physics are so wrong in most Hollywood films yet *look* like how one would expect that I always imagined the M:I:III scene happening in reverse: it looks wrong yet I'm sure it's probably how it would work in reality.

Hrmm....you people haven't had rudimentary physics I take it. When you play pool and hit a ball, it doesn't move in a 45 degree direction from the point of impact.

If you really honestly think that's possible, even without having a real life example in front of you, I completely understand why the rest of the world thinks the US is filled with retards.

I mean seriously. Holy shit.
 
Ecrofirt said:
Wrong. Chuck Norris can run 40 MPH. Chuck Norris is not human.
Chuck: "Wanna see me run to your parents' house, make your mother orgasm 3 times, beat up your dad, and run back?"

...

"Wanna see me do it again?"
 
Really though, it looks like the man is getting sucked into the car. :lol Real physics or not, it's just plain silly.
 
The Shadow said:
Hrmm....you people haven't had rudimentary physics I take it. When you play pool and hit a ball, it doesn't move in a 45 degree direction from the point of impact.

If you really honestly think that's possible, even without having a real life example in front of you, I completely understand why the rest of the world thinks the US is filled with retards.
Dude, it's just a movie.

That's all I was trying to say with my comment.
 
Ecrofirt said:
Wrong. Chuck Norris can run 40 MPH. Chuck Norris is not human.
That's an illusion. He doesn't run. He forces the Earth to spin faster on an axis perpendicular to the direction he is facing.
 
The Shadow said:
Oh LOL! You got me there.

Well no, you didn't. Frankly I have a hard time believing someone would fly perpendicular to the direction of a force exerted on them. You know, pesky Newtonian physics and everything.

while he is running in a straight line his body is not a limp object in motion. He is affected by the explosion while pressing off with his left foot, so maybe it's understandable that he would not fly perfectly straight forward. The angle that he flies to the right is also possibly exagerrated due to perspective. I'm sure they did not calculate the exact effect perfectly or even try to. But a lot of times, high energy reactions of real-world (especially living) things do not happen as we'd expect them to based on our knowledge of high school or even college physics. It bothered me too at first, but the more I see and think about it... not so much.

\edit: doesn't really seem perpendicular... I'd have to watch it again, but maybe more like 20 or 30 degree angle.
 
Liu Kang Baking A Pie said:
Dude, it's just a movie.

Well, I understand that. The problem I have is that it's really, really obvious. It doesn't have to be simulated on a super computer before being put on celluloid. It'd be nice if it wasn't so obvious though.

It just takes away from the scene and breaks the suspension of disbelief for me.
 
levious said:
while he is running in a straight line his body is not a limp object in motion. He is affected by the explosion while pressing off with his left foot, so maybe it's understandable that he would not fly perfectly straight forward. The angle that he flies to the right is also possibly exagerrated due to perspective. I'm sure they did not calculate the exact effect perfectly or even try to. But a lot of times, high energy reactions of real-world (especially living) things do not happen as we'd expect them to based on our knowledge of high school or even college physics. It bothered me too at first, but the more I see and think about it... not so much.

\edit: doesn't really seem perpendicular... I'd have to watch it again, but maybe more like 20 or 30 degree angle.

But the force of him pressing off his foot would be pretty small relative to the explosion. IE, if he jumped off his foot without an explosion behind him, he wouldn't slam in to the car so hard as to dent it like he does. It's like jumping at the last minute in an elevator shaft that's plunging to the bottom. It'll relieve some of the force of impact but the end result is so small as to not really matter at all.

And yeah, maybe not perpendicular but the angle is off enough to make it seem really fake to me. It just doesn't look right.


Like I said before, I'm hoping it's just the brief trailer that makes it seem weird and that it comes off better in the theater. Supposedly the camera is supposed to pan around making it more believable and maybe that's not as obvious from the trailer.
 
well, not to mention that it's doubtful a human could survive that impact with car!

How about the shockwaves reverberating off of the side walls of the bridge? Would that be possible?
 
levious said:
well, not to mention that it's doubtful a human could survive that impact with car!

How about the shockwaves reverberating off of the side walls of the bridge? Would that be possible?

The Shadow said:
It doesn't have to be simulated on a super computer before being put on celluloid. It'd be nice if it wasn't so obvious though.

You're exaggerating my words to make a flimsy point. I never said movies had to go so far as to replicate life, just at least not be so obvious about it.
 
I wasn't arguing with you, I agree with you that it looks bad, just that it's not bothering me as much as before.

My question was serious, wasn't trying to make fun of you.
 
MagicJackBauer said:
You people love tom cruise too much. Go make babies with him.

True.

The guy is a multimillionaire and defies the laws of physics. He doesn't need you to defend him.


I suspect Katie Holmes was tricked and conned the exact same way.
 
MagicJackBauer said:
You people love tom cruise too much. Go make babies with him.

Kiefer is cool, but everytime I see him I picture him getting beat up by that little kid in Flatliners. That or his infamous NOOOOOOOOO from The Vanishing. Too bad the internet wasn't big back then.
 
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