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[Volimar]

http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/ent...tic-violence-bill_uk_5853d4d3e4b0acb6e4b80480

A Tory MP spoke for an hour and 20 minutes in the House of Commons on Friday in an attempt to block a bill on violence against women.

In a lengthy speech, Philip Davies said the bid to protect women from domestic abuse was “sexist against men”, “political correctness”, and “virtue signalling”, in an apparent effort to make the bill run out of time.

Ministers were debating whether to ratify the Istanbul Convention, which would increase support for victims of domestic violence.

But Davies, who has long campaigned against feminism, used up time in the chamber by reading out details of individual cases of domestic violence perpetrated by women, including comments by judges.

Labour MP Thangam Debbonaire, following Davies, said “there’s 78 minutes I’ll never get back”.

In the extended speech Davies suggested sending people to prison for longer to prevent domestic violence, and said he wanted to make November 25th, which is the international day for elimination of violence against women, apply to victims of both sexes.

But despite the stunt MPs voted the bill through with 135 votes to 2. It now moves on to the committee stage.

The anti-feminist MP has successfully filibustered legislation in the past, including one bill to stop rogue landlords evicting tenants asking for basic repairs, one to regulate payday lenders and a third to force councils to provide support to those who care for the disabled.

The incident follows an announcement on Tuesday that Davies had been appointed to a Parliamentary committee responsible for scrutinising the Government on women’s issues.

I usually don't like to put so much of the article in the OP but this time was worth it. In a "misery loves company" kind of way I'm feeling some international fellowship with UK citizens in having to deal with shitty politicians like this.


btw, the "and said he wanted to make November 25th, which is the international day for elimination of violence against women, apply to victims of both sexes" part seems like a good thing on its face but violence against women has been marginalized in recent years by the "but women do it too" excuse usually followed up by discredited statistics.

 

[Sir_Crocodile]

Well:

MPs voted the bill through with 135 votes to 2

At least he was pretty much alone

 

[Wilsongt]

sexist against men

That's not alt-right...

 

[djkimothy]

Is he vying for a position of US ambassador?

 

[Volimar]

Well:

MPs voted the bill through with 135 votes to 2

At least he was pretty much alone

Yep, and normally that'd be the end of it, except for him being part of a committee to scrutinize the Government on women’s issues.

 

[Beefy]

Guy is a twat. Should all domestic abuse be punished? Yep. But far more women are abused then guys. Instead of being a normal person and saying there should be a bill for guys as well the guy shows all his shit sexist views.

 

[PJV3]

"The anti-feminist MP has successfully filibustered legislation in the past, including one bill to stop rogue landlords evicting tenants asking for basic repairs, one to regulate payday lenders and a third to force councils to provide support to those who care for the disabled".

What a miserable cunt, does he also pop childrens footballs as a hobby.

 

[John Kowalski]

This is, like, distilled patriarchy concentrate

 

[Bold One]

We don't do filibustering in the UK do we?

Oh and fuck this guy...

 

[WarLox]

The same laws that protect women should also protect men. I dont see the problem. If you don't understand why that is important, then you should look up how recently it became illegal for a woman to rape a man.

 

[Volimar]

The same laws that protect women should also protect men. I dont see the problem. If you don't understand why that is important, then you should look up how recently it became illegal for a woman to rape a man.

No one is saying that, but this guy is using acts of women against men to stifle protections for women. There's nothing to stop him from supporting a bill protecting men but that's not what he wants. He wants women to not have those protections.

 

[Mindwipe]

We don't do filibustering in the UK do we?

Oh and fuck this guy...

It was a private members bill from a backbencher. Unlike bills from the Government, those can be filibustered (and be grateful they are, few members turn out to oppose them and most are completely crackers).

 

[HazySaiyan]

Fucking Tory scum

 

[liquidtmd]

Don't know much about the guy so googled.

Interesting reading. Many issues he is an arse on

https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/amp....gal-system-favours-women-at-mens-rights-event

Davies, who sits on the Commons justice committee, told the conference at the ExCel centre in London that Britain’s justice system was skewed in favour of women and discriminated against men.

Fucking lawwwd. Is it hell.

Also pro Brexit. Figures.

 

[AHA-Lambda]

I still don't understand why we have such a stupid rule where people can essentially time out debate by deliberately talking too long.

Our politics are disgusting, it just doesn't get enough attention cos the US always one ups us.

 

[WarLox]

No one is saying that, but this guy is using acts of women against men to stifle protections for women. There's nothing to stop him from supporting a bill protecting men but that's not what he wants. He wants women to not have those protections.

The bill should have been inclusive in the first place. Are there separate laws for women who are murdered vs men who are murdered?

When it comes to domestic violence, rape, and sexual offense... the law has been historically sexist. Bills passed in 2016 should have equal protection for both men and women. There is no reason to have a separate bill.

 

[Beefy]

Don't know much about the guy so googled.

Interesting reading. Many issues he is an arse on

https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/amp....gal-system-favours-women-at-mens-rights-event



Fucking lawwwd. Is it hell.

Also pro Brexit. Figures.

Well the rape law clearly is. But as I said in my other post, he has to spew sexist stuff instead of going the normal way of doing it.

 

[Bony Manifesto]

I still don't understand why we have such a stupid rule where people can essentially time out debate by deliberately talking too long.

Our politics are disgusting, it just doesn't get enough attention cos the US always one ups us.

I think the reason why it's stuck around so long is that it's only 'disgusting' if you agree with the issue being filibustered. If you don't, it's seen as being noble and brave. As an example, imagine if someone attempted to filibuster the recent Investigatory Powers Bill - they'd be held up as a national hero on this forum.

 

[JonathanEx]

Ah, Philip Davies. Always reliable to be an arsehole.

Here's my favourite story about him. His previous fillibustering was covered on Russell Howard's Good News show, in which he was heavily insulted:

Howard, who variously referred to Davies as an “arsehole”, “wanker”, “toad-faced hypocrite”, “windbag” and a “shit for brains”, accused Davies of filibustering, or speaking for long periods to slow down a bill passing into law.

https://www.theguardian.com/media/2...plaint-russell-howard-bbc-trust-philip-davies

He complained to the BBC, they put some clarifications about his position on the website. He wasn't happy, complained higher up, and it was rejected.

So basically I *can* say he's an arsehole wanker toad-faced hypocritical shit for brains windbag, I think?

--

Edit, a favourite comic of mine too:

 

[xandaca]

The guy's a prat, but the sad thing is that he's the only one, even in a pathetic way, bringing up the fact that male victims of rape and dometic violence continue to be ignored or mocked (see: Jess Phillips). As someone mentioned in this thread, a more sensible, less vindictive thing to do would be to push for increased funding (or indeed: funding) for specialised protections shelters and helplines for male victims without trying to block female victims from getting the help they need. Unfortunately, no-one does more damage to raising mens' issues than angry red pillers and the likes of Davies using them as a platform for his spite, making it easier for those who mock and denigrate male problems to continue presenting them as worthless. The 'equality' debate is abysmally biased, but the only way male victims will be taken seriously is if they have serious people giving them a voice, not using them as a platform.

 

[RK9039]

Wait... hasn't he done this before during another debate?

 

[D4Danger]

guy's an absolute bellend. not surprised.

 

[Maledict]

I still don't understand why we have such a stupid rule where people can essentially time out debate by deliberately talking too long.

Our politics are disgusting, it just doesn't get enough attention cos the US always one ups us.

It doesn't work the same in the U.K. You can't filibuster government legislation, only backbencher stuff. It's
not possible to paralyse governments using the filibuster like it is in the USA.

(Also it does actually require a proper stand up filibuster, which is actually read hard to do).

 

[Goodlife]

 

[Miles Quaritch]

The anti-feminist MP has successfully filibustered legislation in the past, including one bill to stop rogue landlords evicting tenants asking for basic repairs, one to regulate payday lenders and a third to force councils to provide support to those who care for the disabled.

Look at this dirty motherfucking cunt.

What the fuck is gained from filibustering legislation to help disabled people? What the fuck.

 

[offshore]

Saw this before and knew immediately it would be Davies.

Wait... hasn't he done this before during another debate?

Quite a few times...

 

[Oregano]

Not much to add apart from the fact that Thangam Debbonaire is a brilliant name.

 

[PJV3]

The bill should have been inclusive in the first place. Are there separate laws for women who are murdered vs men who are murdered?

When it comes to domestic violence, rape, and sexual offense... the law has been historically sexist. Bills passed in 2016 should have equal protection for both men and women. There is no reason to have a separate bill.

I don't see the problem, separating out issues allows a more focused debate, men could benefit from a bill dedicated to issues around sexual crimes against men. And nobody cares that the law was dealt with on separate occasions when a case is heard in court, as long as the penalties are similar.

 

[Khoryos]

The guy's a prat, but the sad thing is that he's the only one, even in a pathetic way, bringing up the fact that male victims of rape and dometic violence continue to be ignored or mocked (see: Jess Phillips). As someone mentioned in this thread, a more sensible, less vindictive thing to do would be to push for increased funding (or indeed: funding) for specialised protections shelters and helplines for male victims without trying to block female victims from getting the help they need. Unfortunately, no-one does more damage to raising mens' issues than angry red pillers and the likes of Davies using them as a platform for his spite, making it easier for those who mock and denigrate male problems to continue presenting them as worthless. The 'equality' debate is abysmally biased, but the only way male victims will be taken seriously is if they have serious people giving them a voice, not using them as a platform.

Yeah. I was a male victim of sexual assault and intimate partner violence. Notice that I can't legally call it rape, since she used her vagina - and the law doesn't give a fuck.
I was part of Men's Rights communities, because there are ways that the laws and education systems strongly disadvantage men - but eventually I left, because I could see the hate speakers drowning out the other voices. It sucks, because it's set back the cause by decadesm but c'est la vie.

 

[Akuun]

Glad the bill passed.

It's amazing how much effort these pieces of shit put into being pieces of shit.

 

[Mindwipe]

Not much to add apart from the fact that Thangam Debbonaire is a brilliant name.

Until you find out she's one of the MPs directly responsible for the porn blocking bill, or watch her performance on the Culture, Media and Sports committee asking why we don't censor more of the internet.

 

[Oregano]

Until you find out she's one of the MPs directly responsible for the porn blocking bill, or watch her performance on the Culture, Media and Sports committee asking why we don't censor more of the internet.

Hey, I was just judging the quality of the name, not the person!

 

[xandaca]

Yeah. I was a male victim of sexual assault and intimate partner violence. Notice that I can't legally call it rape, since she used her vagina - and the law doesn't give a fuck.
I was part of Men's Rights communities, because there are ways that the laws and education systems strongly disadvantage men - but eventually I left, because I could see the hate speakers drowning out the other voices. It sucks, because it's set back the cause by decadesm but c'est la vie.

Appreciate your bravery in describing your experiences, hope you're OK. Credit also to you for not letting those experiences turn you to hated. It's infuriating how these issues are treated on both sides as though helping one means taking away from the other. I'd theorise that the violence suffered by female victims requires different treatment and perhaps involves different pathologies than violence suffered by men, so even though they're clearly linked, both have to be raised to a great extent on their own terms. It's disgusting these days that rape is still exclusively considered a male-on-female crime in the UK and that such oversights receive no attention. People like Davies only make it less likely for those injustices to be seriously debated and amended.

 

[MrChom]

Came in expecting Phillip Davies, was not disappointed. The man's an assclown.

He seems to dislike equality, fairness, and support.

It's almost enough to make me hope he encounters a serious lack of all three to the detriment of his own life.

 

[NekoFever]

He hates virtue signalling, guys. Oh, wait.