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Treasury Transforms to New Identity, As Your Pennies Will Be Cut Off to Reduce Waste

0neAnd0nly

Member
Say Bye-Bye to Your Pennies

President Donald Trump announced plans to put a stop to producing pennies, which cost more than their value to make.

"For far too long, the United States has minted pennies which literally cost us more than 2 cents," Trump wrote on Truth Social. "This is so wasteful! I have instructed my Secretary of the US Treasury to stop producing new pennies."

He added, "Let’s rip the waste out of our great nation’s budget, even if it’s a penny at a time."


This is the president’s latest move to reduce spending in the U.S. after taking office on Jan. 20.
 
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StreetsofBeige

Gold Member
Canada did it long time ago. Nobody cared and life goes on.

What happened was all payments using cash are rounding up or down to the nearest nickel. So $6.72 is rounded down to $6.70, and $6,73 is rounded up to $6.75. But if you pay digitally, the exact amount is billed (ie. $6.72).

Great change. No more pennies bogging down your pocket if someone if someone likes paying cash.
 

0neAnd0nly

Member
Canada did it long time ago. Nobody cared and life goes on.

What happened was all payments using cash are rounding up or down to the nearest nickel. So $6.72 is rounded down to $6.70, and $6,73 is rounded up to $6.75. But if you pay digitally, the exact amount is billed (ie. $6.72).

Great change. No more pennies bogging down your pocket if someone if someone likes paying cash.

This is a great point. I struggle to fit my Pennies into my pants very well, this will help with that!
 

DonkeyPunchJr

World’s Biggest Weeb
I remember this being proposed like 20 years ago. The only argument I heard in favor of keeping the Penny was that some charities rely on people donating their loose change.

Now I bet some people are going to be furious about it.
 

Atrus

Gold Member
Pennies and Nickels are worth less than the material to make them and should be phased out together.
 

Dacvak

No one shall be brought before our LORD David Bowie without the true and secret knowledge of the Photoshop. For in that time, so shall He appear.
I’m all for this.
 

eddie4

Genuinely Generous
Fuck it, why stop there, just get rid of coins, round everything up or down to the dollar, it's not like shit's cheap anymore anyway.
 

PSYGN

Member
People don't like pennies anyway they always throw them into a fountain and other bodies of water.
 

Coconutt

Member
Can't remember the last time I bought anything with pennies, mostly pay with card but on the few occasions I use cash and get pennies I'll just tell the cashier to keep them.
 

Nydius

Member
I'm perfectly fine with this. Pennies have cost more to mint than they've been worth for years. The US ditched the half-penny in 1857 for the same reason -- it just wasn't economical to mint such a tiny denomination any longer.
 

TheInfamousKira

Reseterror Resettler
Glad he was the one to coin this change. Of all the loose ends to cut, this one make the most cents. Honest Abe, I think this is gonna be one of those calls that people look back on 15 years down the line and say "my clean, changeless wallet looks pretty as a penny!" Anyway, just my two cents. Opinion is currency in the right market, after all.
 

dave_d

Member
Too bad, the old man on Pawn Stars missed out. He was waiting for something like this so he could melt down all the pennies he stored up and sell them for the value of the metal. (I think it's still illegal to melt pennies down for the copper and he had a lot of the old copper pennies.)
 

dave_d

Member
I could also make the comment it'd be great if we just got rid of cents completely. Hopefully that would stop software developers from storing money as floats.(For those that don't program the vast majority of software developers don't know what floats are for. It's rare for any explanation of floats to even come close to what they're for.)
 

Unknown?

Member
Fuck it, why stop there, just get rid of coins, round everything up or down to the dollar, it's not like shit's cheap anymore anyway.
In 50-75 years they'll probably get rid of the dollar too. 100 years ago this would be inconceivable.

I understand why they are doing this, I just wish they would ask themselves why the penny is so worthless and try to bring purchasing power back to the dollar.
 

Unknown?

Member

It's costing you 3.69 cents to make 1 cent coins. Why weren't they scrapped or changed years ago? At least have a pause on new ones and a drive to spend the current ones sitting around to get them into circulation.
100 years ago a dollar was defined as 1/20th of an ounce of gold. A $20 bill was a claim check(much like a tag for a shirt at a dry cleaner) for a one ounce gold coin. It was so valuable a penny could buy tons of stuff.

Now the dollar is so devalued we are flirting with(and soon will hit) $3000 an ounce of gold. Sad times!
 

Hookshot

Member
100 years ago a dollar was defined as 1/20th of an ounce of gold. A $20 bill was a claim check(much like a tag for a shirt at a dry cleaner) for a one ounce gold coin. It was so valuable a penny could buy tons of stuff.

Now the dollar is so devalued we are flirting with(and soon will hit) $3000 an ounce of gold. Sad times!
Didn't an American President forcibly confiscate it's citizens gold?
 

kruis

Exposing the sinister cartel of retailers who allow companies to pay for advertising space.
Fuck it, why stop there, just get rid of coins, round everything up or down to the dollar, it's not like shit's cheap anymore anyway.
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Idleyes

Gold Member
Yes and that's what killed the gold standard and the dollar's future. Turning it from defined as gold to fiat currency

Americans lost the gold standard as a side effect of Nixon's attempt to stop foreign nations from depleting U.S. gold reserves. At the time, a large number of foreigners were exchanging dollars for gold, putting pressure on the system. In an effort to protect U.S. gold reserves, Nixon killed the gold standard.
 

Unknown?

Member
Americans lost the gold standard as a side effect of Nixon's attempt to stop foreign nations from depleting U.S. gold reserves. At the time, a large number of foreigners were exchanging dollars for gold, putting pressure on the system. In an effort to protect U.S. gold reserves, Nixon killed the gold standard.
That was the final nail but confiscating gold and making it illegal to own more than 5 ounces was the real death. Currency that's not redeemable by what backs it makes the backing worthless.

Foreigners were doing that because America clearly didn't have enough gold for the dollars which is why the dollar was valued as less.
 

jason10mm

Gold Member
Every consumer retail place could EASILY adjust their prices to eliminate the need to consider the penny. The old "$19.99" pricing trick for example, is just stupid. Factor in the tax and make that the mandatory listed price.

How much copper is in a penny these days? I know pre-1964 coins (dimes and quarters anyway) are valued for their silver content, wonder if pennies will become worth it for copper harvesting. Nickles....we've probably minted enough to last us a generation or two.
 

daffyduck

Member
I could also make the comment it'd be great if we just got rid of cents completely. Hopefully that would stop software developers from storing money as floats.(For those that don't program the vast majority of software developers don't know what floats are for. It's rare for any explanation of floats to even come close to what they're for.)
You mean they don't scale back and forth using Ints?

As for getting rid of the Penny, they should've locked step with the Canadians years ago.
 

Alebrije

Member
Change pennies to a $.99 cents coin...since everything in U.S. is psycologycal prices:

$9.99
$99.99
$999.99
 

dave_d

Member
You mean they don't scale back and forth using Ints?
Really they should be using ints for money and use the cent or tenth of a cent as the atomic unit of currency. Too many developers will just use a float because "well it's got a decimal place." (Not getting that floats are scientific notation for computers and as soon as you start using scientific notation you really should understand the concept of significant figures. I literally talked to a guy who was interviewing me that didn't understand it which made things weird.)
 

daffyduck

Member
Really they should be using ints for money and use the cent or tenth of a cent as the atomic unit of currency. Too many developers will just use a float because "well it's got a decimal place." (Not getting that floats are scientific notation for computers and as soon as you start using scientific notation you really should understand the concept of significant figures. I literally talked to a guy who was interviewing me that didn't understand it which made things weird.)
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daffyduck

Member
In 50-75 years they'll probably get rid of the dollar too. 100 years ago this would be inconceivable.

I understand why they are doing this, I just wish they would ask themselves why the penny is so worthless and try to bring purchasing power back to the dollar.
Assuming it's not replaced with a universal digital currency by then, anyway.
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